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Dec 4 2006 22:57

CRS added as a tag.
Also should we have one about police corruption?
False testimony has been a bit of a recurring theme recently and I will have some more I imagine.

Also if I do a thing on the repressive nature of the new laws does that go in news? or should I put it into my blog?
It's not horrendously current, but it is fairly important.

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Dec 5 2006 12:21
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Also if I do a thing on the repressive nature of the new laws does that go in news? or should I put it into my blog?

no, news could be cool.

Re the CRS tag, we already have a "police" tag so we should just use that; we don't want tags that just apply to police sub-units.

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Dec 5 2006 12:26

CRS thing, ok.
How about the false testimony thing?

Also if I edit an article blog post etc does it reset the counters, does it change the submission date and does it put it back into moderation?

edit: CRS tag is still in there. I'm looking for a picture, I'll post a URL here if I find one. I've also got half a report of a demo and some pictures.

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Dec 5 2006 14:10
jef costello wrote:
CRS thing, ok.
How about the false testimony thing?

yeah go for it,

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Also if I edit an article blog post etc does it reset the counters, does it change the submission date and does it put it back into moderation?

nope.

edit: CRS tag is still in there. I'm looking for a picture, I'll post a URL here if I find one. I've also got half a report of a demo and some pictures. can you edit news articles? if not we can fix that. adding pics is quite easy, you just save to your hard drive, then in the image box click "browse" then find and click the pic.

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Dec 5 2006 16:19

it might stick it back on moderation when you edit, can't remember, but you can take it back out again yourself if that happens.

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Dec 6 2006 22:19
Mike Harman wrote:
it might stick it back on moderation when you edit, can't remember, but you can take it back out again yourself if that happens.

Can I? Last I looked I couldn't approve articles any more.

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Dec 6 2006 22:31

I just checked, and I'm pretty sure you can. Can you see a "moderate" block on the right hand side.

PS. I'm not going to help you with this more than that until you switch your user interface from French to English for the duration angry

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Dec 6 2006 22:36
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PS. I'm not going to help you with this more than that until you switch your user interface from French to English for the duration angry

You mean the duration of my stay in France? Seems a bit rude. It was Dundee United's, also made me buy a beret and a stripey jumper before I came out.

I can moderate now yes. Any chance my name could be in green again to symbolise that I was better and more important than other posters?

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Dec 6 2006 22:48
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You mean the duration of my stay in France?

No, until it's fixed.

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Seems a bit rude.

That was the idea.

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I can moderate now yes.

Good good. Did you actually lose it then or just mislay it?

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Any chance my name could be in green again to symbolise that I was better and more important than other posters?

No, none at all.

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Dec 8 2006 10:16

iceland - added distribution tag cos fair bit of strike news there...

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Dec 8 2006 21:28

ahhh, I checked logistics but not distribution.

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Dec 10 2006 19:01

dominos - added wildcat strikes, swapped fast food to food service, cos that's become our tag for restauranty/coffeeshoppy stuff.

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Dec 11 2006 19:17

Two more up, more on police corruption and one on the two boys who were killed.
also these guys are quoting us, I may try and see if I can pimp their pictures.

http://www.parisist.com/archives/actualite/index.php

they've got some good ones on the firefighters' demo.

http://libcom.org/news/inquiry-proves-that-french-police-were-chasing-de...

http://libcom.org/news/french-police-finally-admit-arresting-missing-man...

I forgot to time delay the second one. If you guys can do it go nuts. I'm trying to prepare something longer on the new laws. Do we have an article on the 11000 new crimes somewhere?

edit: I kep fucking up the tags, you might want to check them.

Also there are a fair few stories about moving production from western europe to cheaper places. I can write more stories like it and do we need a seperate tag? Most of the plants getting closed are (according to the unions) still profitable.

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Dec 11 2006 22:47
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Two more up, more on police corruption and one on the two boys who were killed.
also these guys are quoting us, I may try and see if I can pimp their pictures.

cool.

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I forgot to time delay the second one. If you guys can do it go nuts. I'm trying to prepare something longer on the new laws. Do we have an article on the 11000 new crimes somewhere?

what new crimes?

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Also there are a fair few stories about moving production from western europe to cheaper places. I can write more stories like it and do we need a seperate tag? Most of the plants getting closed are (according to the unions) still profitable.

yeah we have got a bunch of stuff on that, but it'd mean tagging all the old ones... outsourcing's not really suitable I don't think. paul marsh started a tag for "job losses" maybe that?

I don't think we can use the profitable argument though a: because we don't believe in production for profit and b: it doesn't matter - the point is they can make more profit overseas.

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Dec 14 2006 11:55

I remember there was an article about how there had been a new offence created for each day Labour had been in power. 11000 isn't the right number. It may have been from a TTG discussion.

Where is my story of Taoufik el-Amri?

They have just found his body in a canal and the three polcie who picked him up have been taken into custody.

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Dec 14 2006 12:02
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Where is my story of Taoufik el-Amri?

er, I dunno, it was there yesterday!

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Dec 14 2006 12:05
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Where is my story of Taoufik el-Amri?

They have just found his body in a canal and the three polcie who picked him up have been taken into custody.

sorry, as i said above i appended it to the other french cop story

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Dec 14 2006 12:05

Some racist has stuck it onto the end of the story about Zyed Benna and Bouna Traore.

You can seperate them out and add in the info or just stick it in as a comment.

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Dec 14 2006 12:06

ah cool, I was playing with the moderation queue yesterday and for a moment I thought I'd killed it by mistake eek

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Dec 14 2006 12:15
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ah cool, I was playing with the moderation queue yesterday and for a moment I thought I'd killed it by mistake eek

That's a bit of an inappropriate way to put it mate wink

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Dec 14 2006 12:22

embarrassed true.

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Dec 15 2006 11:19
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sorry, as i said above i appended it to the other french cop story

no you didn't.

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You can seperate them out and add in the info or just stick it in as a comment.

I can't put a comment up to add that they've found his body.
Shall I do another story once I have details of the autopsy?
I'd like it if you split them because that way I could link back to the original easier.

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Dec 15 2006 11:38
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sorry, as i said above i appended it to the other french cop story

no you didn't.

hmmm isn't this it at the bottom?

If not then sorry don't know what happened.

As for what to do with it, we could cut out the bottom bit of that and maybe it could just be re-written with a different intro + headline, saying "Arrested teenager found dead" or something? then post as new story?

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Dec 15 2006 11:46
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sorry, as i said above i appended it to the other french cop story

no you didn't.

hmmm isn't this it at the bottom?

If not then sorry don't know what happened.

As for what to do with it, we could cut out the bottom bit of that and maybe it could just be re-written with a different intro + headline, saying "Arrested teenager found dead" or something? then post as new story?

I meant that you hadn't told us before.
I'll just briefly sumarise the original story and post a link.

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Dec 15 2006 11:58

oh shit sorry jef, thought i did. thanks.

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Dec 15 2006 12:47

Article is up. Do we have a police brutality/cover-up tag decided yet?

The French term for police brutality or mistakes is

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bavure policière

dunno if that would be any use?

I've put a photo up, but I'm not sure of the source.

edit: Does the fact that he had no water in his lungs prove that he didn't drown? Cause I thought that it did, although that's not the angle that the investigation is taking.

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Dec 15 2006 13:03
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Article is up. Do we have a police brutality/cover-up tag decided yet?

Nah but that's mostly what the "police" tag will be anyway, so don't think it's necessary.

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edit: Does the fact that he had no water in his lungs prove that he didn't drown? Cause I thought that it did, although that's not the angle that the investigation is taking.

yeah i mean tbh i don't know about this story, it often takes a long time for the truth in these types of things to come out. are people trying to say the cops murdered him, or what? even if that is the case i wouldn't worry too much from a newsy point of view since police/army forces kill thousands of people all the time, and struggles are more important for us to cover i think.

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Dec 15 2006 13:10

The feeling is that they probably killed him, I doubt they'll be prosecuted for that though. I know it's not particularly significant in some ways. But for three french cops to be arrested for this is pretty significant. There have been a flurry of cases like this recently and I thought it marked a bit of a change in the way the french justice system was working.
I suppose I have been putting a few too many of these up.
Leave this one up cause it should get a fair few hits, I'll not put any more up.

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Dec 18 2006 09:50

sorry whoever just did poland strike news piece, i was doing it at the same time.

i overwrote your changes with mine for a more descriptive headline and more concise intro. hope didn't lose anything...

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Jan 13 2007 03:49

ret - edited intro to banga piece to remove "bourgeois" and proletariat - we try not to use them cos they're pretty offputting to most people. Inserted picture so it shows in indexes. but ace article, will read tomorrow sober.