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Sep 14 2010 10:33

This won't help your friend because it's in spanish, but, just for the record, FORA-AIT has written both about the general history of IWA and the history of the IWA in America.

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Sep 14 2010 19:24

Admin: comment moved here. Any further comments on the radical publishers tangent will be deleted.

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Sep 17 2010 04:10

'The Workers Themselves' By Wayne Thorpe: excellent history of the founding of the IWA, anarcho-syndicalism and the relationship with the Bolsheviks. It really is good.

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Sep 17 2010 10:12

This one looks interesting too:
Towards a Syndicalist International: The 1913 London Congress

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Sep 17 2010 14:30
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'The Workers Themselves' By Wayne Thorpe: excellent history of the founding of the IWA, anarcho-syndicalism and the relationship with the Bolsheviks. It really is good.

But what a difficult book to access! It's out of print and apparently all the used copies are in the hands of speculators -- people who have no interest in the content. How many workers can afford a $200 used book?

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Sep 17 2010 16:31

This was an expensive book from the start. I bought it new and it was about 100-USD then.

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Sep 17 2010 23:10

This is the kind of book that needs to be uploaded and made available.

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Sep 17 2010 23:12

also the kind of book that something like 'chipin' could help with; 'i'll buy a copy, dismantle it and OCR it, if people chip in $200' kinda thing.

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Sep 17 2010 23:13
Joseph Kay wrote:
also the kind of book that something like 'chipin' could help with; 'i'll buy a copy, dismantle it and OCR it, if people chip in $200' kinda thing.

or that said, if it's out of print the original publishers may be happy with putting it online anyway.

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Sep 17 2010 23:23

Most libraries have it... I was tempted to photocopy the whole book... maybe I will wink

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Sep 17 2010 23:24
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This one looks interesting too:
Towards a Syndicalist International: The 1913 London Congress

Thorpe covers this quite well too, but yeah, that book does look interesting.

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Sep 18 2010 01:24
Joseph Kay wrote:
Joseph Kay wrote:
also the kind of book that something like 'chipin' could help with; 'i'll buy a copy, dismantle it and OCR it, if people chip in $200' kinda thing.

or that said, if it's out of print the original publishers may be happy with putting it online anyway.

I very much doubt the publisher would be happy with that - it seems to have been scanned by google books, but they only make short extracts available, which AFAIK happens when the copyright owners ask for it.

I checked, it is available in different university libraries in London though.

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Sep 18 2010 07:48

Well, then it is a good candidate for scanning.

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Sep 18 2010 13:03

Hey, I found Thorpe's doctoral thesis: Revolutionary syndicalist internationalism, 1913-1923 : the origins of the International Working Men’s Association

It's more than double the size of his book (750 pages!) and it's public domain! tongue
I can't download it, though.

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Sep 18 2010 15:25

Nice find.

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Holy shit man, that's awesome. LOL @ the people who spended 100 bugs on the book.

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Sep 18 2010 19:20

Dano;

theses can seem longer but they have a boring page editing system. So it might be even shorter then the original one sad But will see. I am also downloading. It looks interesting. many thanks!

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Sep 18 2010 22:38

After a lot of trying, I have finally been able to download it, and I have uploaded it to here in case anyone else has any trouble. I can't remember from where I took that 750 pages info, but it was terribly wrong! The file has 385 pages and is double-spaced, so indeed it's probably shorter than the book.

Should we put it on the Libcom library? How do we do that?

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Sep 19 2010 07:04

Just scanning the contents page, it looks almost exactly the same as the book. Great find!

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Sep 19 2010 12:48
Noa Rodman wrote:
Nice find.

Edit:

Holy shit man, that's awesome. LOL @ the people who spended 100 bugs on the book.

Well comrade, you are a lucky generation...when the book was first published, few people had the Internet. And certaily stuff was nowhere as extensively on-line as today.

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Sep 19 2010 13:14
Dano wrote:
After a lot of trying, I have finally been able to download it, and I have uploaded it to here in case anyone else has any trouble. I can't remember from where I took that 750 pages info, but it was terribly wrong! The file has 385 pages and is double-spaced, so indeed it's probably shorter than the book.

Should we put it on the Libcom library? How do we do that?

Hi, nice one for finding and downloading this.

It would be great if you would put it in the library.

In general, here is how to add articles: just click submit content, then history (or library for a theoretical text), then filling the appropriate fields like title, author etc and a brief intro.

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To attach a PDF file click "file attachments" then upload the file. Then check the "list" box next to it so that it displays on the page.

Any problems just ask in our feedback forum . Thanks again!

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Sep 19 2010 23:20

Ok, fellows, it's here. Cheers!

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Sep 20 2010 17:45

thanks!

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Sep 20 2010 23:46

Wow. Cool. I, by chance, have this book out of the library at the moment and was half thinking of scanning it. I'll have a look at this pdf and compare it to the book and see if there are any big differences.

Also another great book on syndicalist history is the Van der Linden and Thope edited volume on Revolutionary Syndicalism.