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Important: anyone know how to contact Howard Zinn?

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Jan 18 2010 18:03
Important: anyone know how to contact Howard Zinn?

because lawyers apparently acting on his behalf have demanded we take down a People's history of the United States, which we have done. However, we think it's important that "the people" are able to read the book! and we not sure whether these lawyers are actually acting on his behalf or not, so we really need to get in touch with him.

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Jan 18 2010 20:03

Hey Steven, accoriding to wiki he works for boston uni? I was gonna read that book online shame.

http://www.bu.edu/

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Jan 18 2010 20:17

it's still available at history is a weapon.org

But cheers for that, will try that way.

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Jan 19 2010 01:44

there's a boston university address for him here:
http://www.bu.edu/phpbin/webph/index.php?index_id=X22906

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Jan 19 2010 11:40
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not sure whether these lawyers are actually acting on his behalf or not

i'd imagine the lawyers would be acting on behalf of the publishing company (who presumably hold the copyright) rather than the man himself - so his hands are probably tied by that regardless of what his personal preference is on it

i was reading a book the other day by Alfredo Saad Filho, and in the acknowledgments at the start he had to write a gushing tribute to some company who owned the copyright for journal articles that he himself had written which they had 'kindly allowed' him to quote parts of in the book. It's amazing that at a time where apparently the amount of information that's available to people is for ever expanding there is a corresponding enclosure of academic and intellectual knowledge

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Jan 19 2010 15:29
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in the acknowledgments at the start he had to write a gushing tribute to some company who owned the copyright for journal articles that he himself had written which they had 'kindly allowed' him to quote parts of in the book.

this is standard procedure in academia, i'm afraid.

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Jan 19 2010 16:43

yeah I was aware of it, but i think that's the first time i've read (or paid attention to) such a thing, and seeing it in black and white, someone thanking someone for that someone letting that person use their own words in their own book really rams home what a fucked up thing it is

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Jan 19 2010 17:01

the first time i saw it i remember being simply baffled.

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Jan 19 2010 17:07

I was completely baffled as well, for a non academic type like myself it just seemed completely bizarre - i know it makes 'sense' from a logical point of view about copyright and that, but it's just so bizarre seeing it written down

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Jan 20 2010 23:26

It's a long shot but Levy Arts have his contact details.

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Jan 27 2010 23:33

Too late sad

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/howard_zinn_his.html

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Jan 27 2010 23:47

Its available at http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html anyhow.

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Jan 27 2010 23:49

I feel so sick about this, can't believe I kept putting it off, I was going to e-mail him when I got in from the pub tonight...

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Jan 28 2010 00:12

if you sent him that email earlier you would have instilled in his subconsciousness a will to continue his life for the benefit of humanity

you murdered howard zinn

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Jan 28 2010 01:18

we can hope than he gets at least some publicity from his death, and his works and ideas continue to change the world after his death.

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Jan 28 2010 12:23

A channeller or ouija board would be your best bet.

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Jan 28 2010 14:10
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A channeller or ouija board would be your best bet.

Lol, you suck.

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Feb 1 2010 06:14

Makes me feel sick even writing this, but you have to wonder if Harper Collins knew about his ill health and decided to send a load of warning letters out before people started googling his works after obituaries were posted.

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Feb 1 2010 07:43

Last time i checked (a minute ago) his people's history was still downloadable at:

http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html

but a mùinute is a oong time in copyright politics - so hurry huirry hurry..

PS Whilst it's interesting pre-WWII, certainly the stuff post- WWII is mostly typical wishy washy anarcho-liberal lefty stuff...

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Feb 1 2010 09:40

How do you download it from that website?

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Feb 1 2010 10:13

you just click the links and read it, or print it chapter by chapter

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Feb 1 2010 10:24

I have just been clicking the links and reading them. Don't see a download option.

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Feb 1 2010 10:44
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I have just been clicking the links and reading them. Don't see a download option.

that's right, there isn't a separate option, you can only read it there.

Mike Harman wrote:
Makes me feel sick even writing this, but you have to wonder if Harper Collins knew about his ill health and decided to send a load of warning letters out before people started googling his works after obituaries were posted.

that sounds unlikely.

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Feb 1 2010 11:29
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allybaba wrote:
I have just been clicking the links and reading them. Don't see a download option.

that's right, there isn't a separate option, you can only read it there.

although if you go file -> save (or ctrl-s) you can save the pages to your computer to read later if they are taken down.

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Feb 1 2010 11:54

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that's right, there isn't a separate option, you can only read it there.

Not at all: you copy each chapter and put it on your computer (i.e.Ctrl + a, Ctrl+c, then chapter by chapter Ctrl+v on your computer - takes maybe 20 minutes)

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Feb 1 2010 11:56

Sorry - missed Joseph Kay's post and said virtually what he said.

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Feb 1 2010 12:45

cheers guys

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Feb 1 2010 19:38

Or you could just go to that main page, click "File->Save Page As...", then choose "Web Page, complete" in the lowest option-box (though it should be the default choice). That should download the whole think, chapters and all.