The opening post of this sub-thread was comment #44 in the parent thread which raised a question on a brief mention of the US Civil War in the "As We See It" document:
Perhaps Sander can supply some clarification. This appears in the recent IP position paper:
Thus, his early deterministic and stage-ist theories led him to congratulate Lincoln on his re-election even while the first industrialized war was still in the course of murdering over half a million proletarians
Is IP suggesting the the Confederate troops were proletarians?
Even on the Union side, with so little of the economy, and so little of the population urbanized, and involved in industrial production, it's a stretch to call the majority of those troops "proletarians."
Friend of mine claims that IP considers the US Civil War an intra-capitalist dispute where the revolutionary stance would have been that of defeatism, working for defeat on both sides.
Is that an accurate rendering of the IP position?
I will append the subsequent posts on that topic in the next comment