ALF to target students?!

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Jan 30 2006 11:07
ALF to target students?!

I don't know if people have seen it, I noticed this in a couple of papers (a Metro last week, and yesterday's Sunday Times). I'm assuming people know about the animal testing lab being built by Oxford Uni, well a few weeks ago some ALF peeps attacked the office of an architect who worked for the Uni, but had nothing to do with the lab. Here's a quote from the post claiming responsibility for that attack:

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We must target professors, teachers, heads, students, investors, partners, supporters and ANYONE that dares to deal in any part of the University in any way. There is no time for debate and there is no time for protest, this is make or break time and from now on, ANYTHING GOES. We cannot fail these animals that will end up in those death chambers.

http://www.directaction.info/news_jan22_06.htm

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Jan 30 2006 11:11

i used to work at the oxford uni - i guess i would have been a target of this lot as well grin

bear in mind, anyone can make these emails - that only takes one person...

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Jan 30 2006 11:18
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bear in mind, anyone can make these emails - that only takes one person...

but directaction.info have published that on their site. Tossers roll eyes

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Jan 30 2006 11:39

ahahahaha, what twits.

they'l never attack students, because the average student could beat the shit out of them.

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Jan 30 2006 12:06

Also they'd have a fairly long job of it targetting every student dorm etc...

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Jan 30 2006 12:21

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I think it's OK for the ALF to kill middle class people. If they take a few of themselves out at the same time, all the better.

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Jan 30 2006 12:39
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DO WHATEVER IT TAKES and blow these fucking monsters off the face of the planet

sick.

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Jan 30 2006 12:57

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Indeed. Good to see JDMF apologising for them as usual though.

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Jan 30 2006 13:18
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Indeed. Good to see JDMF apologising for them as usual though.

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where did i apologise for "them"?

I dont know who these mystical "them" are - but if you mean by "them" the campaign to prevent the vivisection lab being built, then yes i am defending "them".

But if by "them" you mean some nutter who would have treathened me and my co-workers at the uni and OUP, then of course i am not apologising for "them".

I find this hysterical attitude in which you have to just join in in slagging off and throwing babies with bathwater a bit silly. But ok, just to make you happy...

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Jan 30 2006 13:18

tossers!

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Jan 30 2006 13:19

twats!

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Jan 30 2006 13:19

idiots!

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Jan 30 2006 13:19

"they" are going to eat our children!

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Jan 30 2006 13:20
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This is an evil company who are currently engaged in construction work for Oxford University. Their projects for the University include:

Plant Science and Glycobiology, University of Oxford

5 Storey high serviced new building in the heart of the 'science area' consisting principally of biological research laboratories

University of Oxford, Department of Psychiatry

Neurosciences research building

University of Oxford, Department of Psychiatry

Wellcome Foundation research building

Psychiatry? Those BASTARDS!!!!111!!!11!

I like the way they're put 'science area' in quotatio marks as well roll eyes

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Jan 30 2006 13:28

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dont know who these mystical "them" are - but if you mean by "them" the campaign to prevent the vivisection lab being built, then yes i am defending "them".

The idea that inconveniencing working class people with your misdirected “campaign” is better than blowing them up is liberal hogwash. You should be skinned and turned into a coat, you middle class AR tourist.

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Jan 30 2006 13:34

Are they gonna attack alumni too?

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Jan 30 2006 13:35

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I hope so. "Animal Rights" are part of the bourgeois war effort against the working class. Anyone who advocates that animals have rights that need to be pursued by working class inconvenience should be shown the door.

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Jan 30 2006 13:36

I'll have to move my dad into a safe house then.

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Jan 30 2006 13:40

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Good idea. You could finance it with the money left over when JDMF's dad buys him a nice sanctuary to store all the “rescued” bunnies.

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Jan 30 2006 13:41

I dont like him that much, he can just go in with the bunnies.

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Jan 30 2006 13:46

I reckon they could go for students if they wanted, there's always a group of protesters in the science area that students have to walk past on a daily basis. If they really mean they'll do anything then open assault would be perfectly viable, if pointless (although they don't seem to have a record of doing anything with mcuh of a point so I wouldn't put it past them). I've not met that many hard students here haha, I doubt the average one would be able to beat the shit out of them. I don't know enough about the ALF to say whether they really would go after students, but there are plenty of us about all the time, and I don't think they'd have much trouble targetting colleges either, if that was their aim.

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Jan 30 2006 13:46

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That's a bit harsh...

I take it back. The idea that inconveniencing working class people for the sake of animals is better than just killing them is liberal though. It’s just a question of degree, the crime is the same.

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Jan 30 2006 14:18
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I take it back. The idea that inconveniencing working class people for the sake of animals is better than just killing them is liberal though. It’s just a question of degree, the crime is the same.

so next time when we meet, and i cause inconvenience to you, for instance by smelling dubiously bad, it is same than killing you, and anyone who says any different is just a liberal?

And please LR, don't try to make personal attacks mate, you, much like me, are not very good at it and just end up sounding a bit sad...

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Jan 30 2006 14:19
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Good idea. You could finance it with the money left over when JDMF's dad buys him a nice sanctuary to store all the “rescued” bunnies.

my dad is practically dead, and he wont be leaving anything but debts behind.

Twat.

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Jan 30 2006 14:29

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And please LR, don't try to make personal attacks mate

Don't "mate" me. I think you'd make a lovely coat, and what's wrong with being a middle class AR tourist? In what way was that a "personal" attack?

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Jan 30 2006 14:33

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Oh and another thing…

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so next time when we meet, and i cause inconvenience to you, for instance by smelling dubiously bad, it is same than killing you, and anyone who says any different is just a liberal?

You smelling bad does not inconvenience me. But if it did, and it was for political gain, then it differs from “killing me” only in degree. My untimely demise is just the ultimate inconvenience.

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Jan 30 2006 14:36

maybe best not to refer to ALF as "they". as far as i know, its a name taken by an affinity group of AR activists when they want to engage in direct action on a campaign. Its a name that comes with some principles and whatever, but i'm pretty sure its not an actual organisation.

So, the use of the name in this particular email can't really be taken to refer to the wider campaign against the vivisection lab or indeed, any other group who uses the ALF moniker in communiques (if you say communique, it makes you feel like a romantic guerilla hero). If i was writing a wanky essay, i'd call it a fallacious metonymy, or something like that.

I may be wrong about these points, having never done any of that sort of thing, its just picked up from reading bits and bobs. maybe JDMF can correct me if i'm wrong.

This is a pretty impressively stupid affinity group though, i'd say they're more than a little bit in love with their own mystique. There's vivisection in my college, and by this logic, i'm liable to get attacked cos i both study and work here. wankers.

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Jan 30 2006 14:38

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This is all liberal twaddle. It is wrong to even disrupt the day-to-day business of one working class person for the sake of another species. Simple as.

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Jan 30 2006 14:44
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Be warned Oxford University, this is only the beginning of our campaign. Everyone linked to your institution is right now being tracked down and sooner or later, they will be made to face the consequences of your evil schemes.

Forever for the animals

and here i was thinking humans were animals too.

maybe they only like fluffy animals.

yep, i think they are in love with the idea of ALF and the moral authoritarianism of it all. quite religious really. The idea that this one group is calling on momentous forces to track down and deal with everyone linked to their institution. religious mania.

i was talking to a guy who dissected an earthworm the other day. maybe i should go kick his ass in solidarity and in recognition of my duty. he's much bigger than me, unfortunately, so the earthworm folk will have to be left unavenged. FOR NOW! Just you wait till the revolution, first up against the wall, damnit!!!

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Jan 30 2006 14:51

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LR - while I agree with the basics of your article, and as someone who knows being a cunt better than most, please stop it.

Stop what? Questioning the spirit crushing, bothersome antics of a bunch of AR loonies? What's your beef? And to what article are you referring?

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Jan 30 2006 14:57
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There is no time for debate and there is no time for protest

To think that anyone in the anarchist movement has any sympathy with these sociopaths makes me slightly ill. Their tone reminds me somewhat of the national front, only knocked up a few gers of blind hatred. What do they think attacking random people associated with the university will achieve? The university is rich and therefore gives not one toss for their average undergraduate, far less their average worker, when there's lucrative drug money to be made by butchering monkeys.

But if they have to kill students, could i ask that they kill only BA students? There's far too many of them in the world today and they piss me off with their self-righteousness and topshop/hippy uniforms.