Bin Laden praises Chomsky

Not weird at all. Bin Laden is simply trying to get in on that "antimperialist" thing that is so popular with leftist mentals everywhere.

sadly... it works sometimes. Machiavelli was truly a red! sigh

I swear it's like these people are deliberately trying to smear the entire left side of the fucking spectrum. Why the hell do Islamists try to associate themselves with the left anyways? A lot of people here in the US do that too. It's this general notion that anything left wing is evil.

It's not exactly rocket science, Bin Laden's major role is as a rebel against US imperialism. Without the rhetoric of dispossession, he's mostly just a rich twit in a turban.

Anything right wing is evil.

Is what he wears a turban?

Yes, there's probably a specific name for it as well but it comes under that general heading.

Lets have a FUCKING MARCH AGAINST EVIL

Capitalism is evil, so that would mean lets having a fucking march in favour of (good) ie Anarchism. (instead of just moaning about how the system is shit).

You realise marching is a glorified version of moaning how shit the system is?

Has anyone ever heard a trot speak wishfully about bin laden/al quada?
Or do they hate him because they kicked USSR out?

therefore, the CPGB critizises Chomsky: http://cpgb.org.uk/article.php?article_id=1002551

Ha I know of a trot that keeps a picture of osama on his wall... however he's an artists and i think it's just to shock people.

There is a fairly big Islamic left grouping, liberal islamist etc, even Islamists who've attempted to reconcile communist values with Islam.

doesn't Zizek also have something about the 'empancipatory potential' of Islam? And yet he's not too popular with 'anti-imperialist' Muslims.

I've not read any of his stuff on it but thats a common line for a lot of pro-deomocracy/liberal/leftist/etc Muslims. Their basic argument is that Islam from its conception has democratic principals of consultation, Shura which depending on who your looking at is an example of liberal democratic/communist principals.

The essential thread in most of their arguments is that a full implementation of 'true' Sh'aria law would lead to a truly egalitarian state.

You can argue the case till your face is blue for either side of it and not really get anywhere. In practice Islamists defiantly have had a large part in fighting imperialism and colonialism, but infrequently enforcing egalitarian principals thats hard to dispute.

Yes I have, one of my former comrades was vey fond of Bin Laden and is still behind Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran, he also thinks that the US got rid of Saddam Hussein because he was a Socialist.

soz wrong quote, meant the trot al qaeda one.

How are the Taliban any different to the IRA?

The taliban are an Islamist movement who formerly governed Afghanistan.

The IRA could be one of three armed groups in northern ireland, one disarmed the others marginalised and lacking any widespread public sympathy.

also to my knowledge the IRA haven't spawned an absurdist peep show joke.

They're still doing the same thing - fighting an Imperialist invasion.

The Taliban don't have public sympathy either.

Oh Mr Taliban, tally my bananas.

What public are you referring to? They certainly have supporters in the pushtun areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Prior to 1996 they were very popular almost all over Afghanistan. But I guess you're talking about the UK public.

I remember this, no way are the IRA as hard as the Taliban

Jesus mother of all fuck, what a stupid shitforbrains cunt this guy is! And to think that some people on this forum have had to apologize for being too blunt with him! Fuck sake.
THEOUTLAW is sound as fuck by comparison.

Nevermind.

my mum (96) would like a quiet word with you

Tally me banana, surely... If I'd copyrighted that when I first spotted it, like I should've when the (In Bed With M'Dinner) comedian recycled my joke about the Tupac Amaru siege at the Peruvian Embassy, Ferrero Rocher and the ambassador's reception, I'd be a rich... Oh, never mind.

Eccelente...

The IRA, which ever one your talking about, are a nationalist organisation focused on the end of British Rule in the geographic island called Ireland. (Don't really want to get into an argument about the definition of British or Irish or Ireland and Britain) Thats their basic agenda, similar to many nationalist organistions throughout the world. Although the IRA favor the Republican style of government but every groups different hey.

Unlike the Taliban the IRA don't believe other forms of government other than their own are heretical and the IRA don't really have a religious basis or requirement having Protestants, Catholics, Atheists, Jews etc among their members.

The Taliban are a fundamentalist Sunni Islamist political group who believe that the full implementation of Shari'a law(their interpretation of it of course) will lead to a perfect society and that it is a Muslims duty to utilize violence, literature and basically any action that isn't considered Haram so that Islam and their Shari'a law is spread to everyone in the world.

In some ways the Talibans beliefs resembles that of the Imperialists, the forced imposition of what they think is the correct/civilised/true religious way of life upon peoples willing or unwilling.

This is only partially correct. The Taliban are a pushthun ethnic/nationalist group, hence why their strongholds are in southern and eastern Afghanistan and the North West frontier province. Their interpretation of Islam is also heavily influenced by culture (e.g. one of the first big "acts" of the Tailban was to mediate some weird man-boy-love triangle in Kandahar. Needless to say, this has nothing to do with Sunni fundamentalist Islam).

It's a huge mistake to view the Taliban only as a religious group. For example, the fact that the US assembled the Northern Coalition out of non-Pushtu groups has been a huge problem for them later. Pushtus have traditionally been in power in Afhganistan, and lots of pushtu tribes were not happy with a bunch of Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras etc. taking over. Hamid Karzai, a pushtu, was put in power (in part) to give the appearance that pushtus did not loose power.