international day of action in solidarity with general transport workers association (asf iwa) on september 15

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Oct 9 2012 12:49

Movement has been very slow, but we are now able to give somewhat of an update.

Initial F24's have been entered with Fair Work Australia by Domino's drivers* Wed, 3 Oct 2012, along with a request that there be a change of commissioner as the drivers have lost faith in the previous that supported the SDA calling on an adjournment with no date for an agreement to be made between the current reformist union and Dominos.

This has resulted in both Domino's and the SDA objecting to a change of Commissioner overseeing the termination.

We have F24's yet to enter that ASF drivers have provided since then, and will provide more information and details as things progress.

Unfortunately the processes are running slowly, however the pressure from international action by the IWA and from the many other groups around the world in solidarity has had the drivers taken seriously as an assembly of workers, where previously it appeared they were just an annoyance.

It is these actions that have provided the ability for the drivers to move ahead with reinstating their wages.

We should have a date for the hearing soon allowing drivers to take control and terminate the old agreement that is less than the Australian minimum wage for casual workers.

*This information is now known by both Domino's and the SDA who received copies of drivers forms as they were entered, and will be getting more that have come in this week.

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Oct 10 2012 02:24
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Hmmm...I don't know about that.

I think we have to be strategic and recognise we don't win disputes by getting the company to give away free food. Without sounding a bit preachy, we win disputes like this by spreading disputes; it's substitutionalist to think that a small group of outsiders can force the boss to shell out free product for a night and think that it's any sort of class victory.

Also, by reading the write-up, it doesn't particularly seem like workers in the shop totally grasped the significance of what was happening. It could be the author is being intentionally vague; it could be that it may take some time for the workers to grasp the significance of the event. But, honestly, I feel like this is still quite an activisty approach to workplace struggle.

Similarly--and again I apologize if this all seems excessively pessimistic--it doesn't seem like the customers were getting free pizza in order to support our comrades in Australia. Of course, action often precedes consciousness, but, as revolutionaries, we should be aware of such dynamics and our write-ups should reflect such realities.

I don't know, it sort of reads like a trade union 'everything that we do is an unqualified victory' piece and life--and certainly the class struggle--is much more complicated than that.

To be honest we didn't have much contact with the Bay Area IWW folks as I would have liked on a sorta national level. I do know a few WSA people were on the ground there day of. Anyway just to say that their actions there seemed to break from the framework a little of what we were trying to do. But idk it was last minute, at least they did turn out. I think your crit is fair.

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Apr 2 2013 03:58

Report back from WSA on the international day of action.
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Apr 2 2013 07:45

I'm curious what people think of this:

http://www.frwu.net/2012/thedominosfall/

Not the article itself (which is well-written) but the fact that management's response to the picket was to give away free pizza. It's pitched as a big victory for the picketers, but I'm not sure about that. I mean, it's great that people got free pizza, but I'm not sure how many of those people will connect the dots between the protest and the free food.

If anything, I worry it might make the picket look weak: 'Oh, you think you're affecting business, but the can still afford to give away free food.' I don't know, I'm just not sure it sends a positive message.

EDIT: I realizes I've already made this criticism like 4 posts ago. Still interested to hear folks ideas, though.

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Apr 3 2013 12:51

In all honesty, I wouldn't of billed it as a big victory but would of been pleased had it happened. A lot of people showed up and heard the message. It sounds like they took advantage of that and let people know exactly what was up. Either way, they couldn't of stopped the owner/manager/whatever from doing what they did so they had to work it in some manner yea know?

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Apr 3 2013 23:22

I think it largely depends on how you define victory. A properly planned operation requires an agreed definition of victory or success. Each action should have specific aims, the acheivement of which should be easily evaluated.

The 'Day of Action' was an operation with two broad aims; demonstrate to all actors (DPE management, SDA union hierarchy and the delivery drivers not yet members of the GTWA) that while the GTWA was low quantity, it was high capacity. Secondly, boost the morale and buttress the commitment of existing GTWA members. Based on this criteria, the 'Day of Action' was evaluated as a success.

The success of the campaign, to restore the wages to the level before the arbitrary cut made in April 2012, is yet to be realised. However, given that an across the board $1.00ph wage rise was announced by DPE management at the FWA hearing on 16 July and a further rise granted to drivers at some Queensland franchises in November, the campaign has eliminated total failure as a possible outcome.

If the action of the picket in Berkeley, California caused the boss to give away free pizzas (thus incurring a loss) it would have to be scored in the column marked 'win' in my evaluation.

Good on 'em!

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Apr 4 2013 07:21

Lugius, FWIW, I don't think anybody was questioning the how we define success in the overall day of action, just how things played out in Berkeley--and, as a secondary point, how we talk about talk about and promote our actions after the fact.

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Apr 5 2013 07:28

Ok, when I saw this thread I went *sigh* and *facepalm*.

Grumpycat has asked some rational questions about the reality of this campaign. Question's which haven't been directly or properly answered. No one else in B.S.N. wants to engage with this, because the discussion has started to cause anxiety among various individuals.

Also every single person on this thread is running off "second hand information", sent ultimately by just one person.

Being straight. This is just an internet campaign, with no actual grassroots organising of workers in Brisbane. Which is fine that in itself, it is good for raising awareness.

The problem is that Axxs is making lots of people put themselves out, for a non-existant campaign. There are no Domino's Drivers in Brisbane, who are also members of the ASF or their 'independant union', the "general transport workers association". And the ASF has no standing with "Fair Work Australia" i.e. no right to negotiate.

Last year when the BSN was actively supporting this campaign, they collectively asked to quietly meet some of these members. Chat and build solidarity kinda stuff. The BSN was refused by Axxs, saying "but thier jobs are in danger". After a little while, others noticed the only people turning up to these pickets in Brisbane were BSN and IWW members. So what's going on here?

In January, the ASF had it's "National Congress" meeting in Brisbane. Two people turned up. Someone blamed the weather. Seriously, it wasn't raining that hard.

Well, if the Brisbane branch of the ASF/GTWA/IWA just had a very successful international day of action, where are the photo's from the Brisbane workers? Why are all the photo's of Domino's actions from oversea's? Like on the facebook site https://www.facebook.com/GeneralTransportWorkersAssociation

Because this action is empty. Two people with keyboards and an internet connection are creating this spectical. I have said it before, symbolic, "Blackflag vandgardist" actions do not create a revolution, they drain people's energy, confuse other people, then exploit other people;s goodwill.

If all you have is a picket, then fine, just say that. But you are not actually engaging with the workers, or supporting them to organise their own democratic resistance.

I pay full respect to Grumpycat's actions during the Abigroup dispute (despite my disagreements with some of his Marxist poltics). Organising people to turn up and support blockades/pickets at 5:30am with sandwiches and hot drinks shows much more initiative and community building efforts.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/hospital-dispute-costs-builde...

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Apr 5 2013 12:31

Axxs, ignore it. Don't engage.

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Apr 7 2013 12:40
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In January, the ASF had it's "National Congress" meeting in Brisbane. Two people turned up. Someone blamed the weather. Seriously, it wasn't raining that hard.

I think I can give some clarity, as an ex-member of the ASF, around the subject of numbers.

The ASF is an association made up of limited branches.1 Each branch only needs to send one delegate to a Congress. Three branches = 3 delegates, more if the branch is large enough. Perhaps 'congress' gives the wrong impression of what numbers should be, but that's hardly a problem for the ASF.

The last congress I went to (waaaaaay back in the day) had six or so people, including observers. It was also in Sydney, which would explain the higher attendance (relatively speaking).

From memory, Brisbane was flooded, flights were cancelled and the weather was predicted a few days in advance. Having a couple of delegates plus observers turn up, given all of that, sounds about right. I think it is likely there were more (even just from the Melbourne).

The remaining question is where does Happyanarchy get these numbers from? What framework is being used for critique? Given Happyanarchy savagely assaulted Axxs and has variously accused him of other things publicly along with zero evidence to support his contentions, the above post is well within a pattern of a campaign to denigrate Axxs for fairly specious reasons. More importantly, it is also an attack on the great work by and solidarity shown with the ASF. Comradely critique usually involves evidence, reasoning and a discernable point.

It's unfortunate that shame and embarrassment can only be felt by those with some conscience around their actions, as a solid application of both of these feelings would go some way in limiting the attacks like that of Happyanarchy above.

  • 1. This is still bigger and more organised that most anarchosyndicalist organisations after WW2
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Apr 7 2013 12:41
happyanarchy wrote:
I pay full respect to Grumpycat's actions during the Abigroup dispute (despite my disagreements with some of his Marxist poltics). Organising people to turn up and support blockades/pickets at 5:30am with sandwiches and hot drinks shows much more initiative and community building efforts.

Agree. Much more progress to be made from supporting and listening to workers away from computer screens than preaching to the converted and running largely internet based campaigns where challenging questions, rather than being welcomed and met dispassionately, provoke defensive reactions that seem to seek to confuse potential or actual criticism with being attacked.

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Apr 7 2013 13:00
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The last congress I went to (waaaaaay back in the day) had six or so people, including observers. It was also in Sydney, which would explain the higher attendance (relatively speaking).

I was one of those attendees as you know as we went up together. From what I remember most of the attendees were official delegates - two from Sydney, two from Melbourne and two from the education branch we were forming down here. I can't imagine why that hell mission in that piece of shit car I had could have been justified otherwise. With two branches and one industrial branch we were able to have six delegates plus observers from what I remember.

The ASF was running well there for a while; it does have potential to be a great organisation, athough most of it goes to waste. Even if the latest congress had the same numbers that's a shocking lack of progress for over a decade of effort. One can't help but wonder what holds it back so dramatically (must be all the fake anarchists who keep invading it).

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It's unfortunate that shame and embarrassment can only be felt by those with some conscience around their actions, as a solid application of both of these feelings would go some way in limiting the attacks like that of Happyanarchy above.

It's unfortunate that we all continue to try to impose our will on situations rather than trying to find the grey area in between the black and whites and pointing the finger at others before questioning ourselves and how our own actions might contribute to the kind of internal rifts that cripple the milieu, prevent meaningful progress and make it so generally toxic that those who sincerely want social change and more control over the conditions over their own lives are repulsed and only the cynical and opportunist remain.

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Apr 11 2013 16:03

Someone just posted this video on Facebook. It's rad, because there are Dominos workers in it.