Sigh. Latest trend in Sydney- "Curry bashings". Rally Sunday May 31.

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May 30 2009 13:17
Sigh. Latest trend in Sydney- "Curry bashings". Rally Sunday May 31.

from http://www.fightdemback.org/

"Violent attacks on Indian students are on the rise in Sydney, and have forced the Indian Government to take steps to assure the safety of Indian students in Australia, a community leader says.

Dr Yadu Singh said there had been at least 20 bashings of Indian students in Sydney in the past month, but most went unreported out of fear. He estimated over 100 attacks on Indian students in the last 12 months."

There is a peace rally on Sunday:

"The Federation of Indian Students of Australia Inc has called for a PEACE RALLY in response to the growing anger in the community against increasing crimes.

The purpose is to create an awareness about an increasing number of hate crimes within the state and to promote racial harmony and peace.

The PEACE RALLY will start on Sunday 31 May 2009 at 11:30am from Royal Melbourne Hospital (corner Grattan Street and Flemington Road) and will conclude at Victorian Parliament House."

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Jun 2 2009 01:37

The rally was in Melbourne.

It got violently broken up by police.

Now politicians are all like 'oh no if Australia gets a bad reputation for being racist it will damage the education industry.'

I hate this country.

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Jun 2 2009 05:29
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Now politicians are all like 'oh no if Australia gets a bad reputation for being racist it will damage the education industry.'

I hate this country.

But we all know that the government and the universities only want them here because as Full-Fee Students, they are cash-cows. Sacred sacred cash cows (if you didn't get the pun the first time).

This being said they may bring in a hate crimes legislation into Victoria as a result of recent events.

Saw the Hindu "extremists" pics from India...they were burning effigies of Kevin Rudd lolz.

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Jun 2 2009 05:35

I was on the link looking at the photos...

The shot of Ted Ballieu with the megaphone was what got me because the next photo ahead had another white/anglo/non-indian bloke with a megaphone with a Union Solidarity sticker on it...

I was not sure whether it was a different person or not but I'm a little befuddled about it. I'm sure anybody would agree there...

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Jun 2 2009 10:18

The trot groups etc have all got their posters up on "why Australia is such a racist society". I'm wondering, are these attacks actually part of a wider problem of rising racism, or are we talking about a small group of fucks causing a proportionally-large amount of violence?

I mean, from what I can gather the attacks are mostly happening in the northern and western suburbs, where Indians only make up a small section of the population (even relative to other "ethnic" groups in the area). Are the bashings indicative of a wider pattern of attacks on "ethnics" in general, which is being selectively reported, or is it just a small bunch of racists specifically going after Indian students? I'm aware of a small number of attacks on Somalis over the last few years, but not much else.

Do others think racism is on the rise again?

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This being said they may bring in a hate crimes legislation into Victoria as a result of recent events.

I thought Victoria had already brought in hate crimes legislation fairly recently. IIRC, didn't they try it out on some Assemblies-of-God fuck /Family First candidate for holding anti-Muslim meetings, but he got off the charges?

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Jun 2 2009 12:30

The two men on the mic are Ted and Paul Coats (Socialist Alternative).

Victoria indeed has racial/religious vilification legislation. It was on the basis of this law that a case was brought against Pastor Danny Nalliah of ‘Catch the Fire Ministries’ for vilifying Muslims; it failed on appeal. (Note that Peter Costello is a vocal supporter of CTF.) I think that what is being touted at the moment is the introduction of a law that would determine some crimes as being 'hate crimes', and which would mean that sentences in such cases would be harsher than would otherwise be the case...

Regarding an upswing in racism: dunno. Depends how you measure such things. With regards attacks upon Indians:

"Police figures reveal a 35 per cent increase in attacks on Indians between 2006/07 and 2007/08.

Statewide figures show 1,447 people of Indian origin were victims of crimes such as robberies and assaults in 2007/08, an increase from 1,082 the previous year.

There were a total of 36,765 victims in the state in 2007/08, according to Victoria Police."

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Jun 2 2009 13:50

I was having a long chat with some mates today about it all...not all of the attacks were specifically carried out by Anglo-Australians...there is talk of some of the African fellas getting nasty with the Indians amongst others in their areas.

I think there is and issue of racism as well as a general rise in violence within society both in the streets and schools. It's a little worrying sometimes.

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Jun 3 2009 05:02
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If you are suffering racist attacks I am not sure the best tactic is blocking intersections.

What's your suggestion then??? confused

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Jun 3 2009 06:49
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If you are suffering racist attacks I am not sure the best tactic is blocking intersections.

It was a very successful action in terms of generating media attention: in Australia but, moreover, in India.

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Jun 3 2009 10:21
@ndy wrote:
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If you are suffering racist attacks I am not sure the best tactic is blocking intersections.

It was a very successful action in terms of generating media attention: in Australia but, moreover, in India.

What is generating media attention good for?

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Jun 3 2009 12:34
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If you are suffering racist attacks I am not sure the best tactic is blocking intersections.

It was a very successful action in terms of generating media attention: in Australia but, moreover, in India.

What is generating media attention good for?

Ummmm allowing the broader general public to know what's going on...that is what I thought media attention was for sometimes...and I stress sometimes because of the spin they can put on it...

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Jun 3 2009 13:44

I guess when a protest is unlikely to upset nasty tele advertisers media attention can be alright in creating some kind of awareness.

I do suspect blanket media coverage was significantly determined by reactionary flinders st property damage caused by protester/protesters.

Blocking intersections can piss bystanders off... i believe it can be a reasonable tactic as an indefinite occupation if demands are clearly articulated (as seen recently with Melbourne cabbies),... on this occasion not sure if this was the case?

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Jun 3 2009 16:26
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If you are suffering racist attacks I am not sure the best tactic is blocking intersections.

What would be? Keeping your head down and shuffling on about your business?

You hit the nail on the head there mate....just keep your head down and it will all be ok lol

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Jun 4 2009 02:32
tojiah wrote:
@ndy wrote:
weeler wrote:
If you are suffering racist attacks I am not sure the best tactic is blocking intersections.

It was a very successful action in terms of generating media attention: in Australia but, moreover, in India.

What is generating media attention good for?

In this context, bringing the issue before the Indian public, and thereby placing political pressure on the Indian (and hence Australian) government to act to reduce the violence. Education is one of Australia's major exports -- these stories and images could potentially cost the sector millions.

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Jun 4 2009 10:20

It got good coverage, i saw it on the news and was fairly impressed. That demonstration looked like it was marching to physically confront racism in the street, they were hella angry lookin.

Media coverage like this could act to spread anti-racist actions like this to other places, maybe just like the cabbies' protest did?

I'm not aware of any rise in racist violence here, or even a rise in racist organising. I know that after cops killed that kid in melbourne, fascist had posters up on hindley street in adelaide condemning it, i guess i've never seen fascist propaganda around the city, so that's new.
I'm not sure what group, maybe national alliance? I have heard of nationalist kids in adelaide(under the name united aussie pride) getting in fights donning australia flag capes. That probably comes as a result of the one or two nazi skinheads they hang around with in parks.

Probably on the rise. Worrying at best.

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Jun 4 2009 16:52

I saw an Australia First poster today just outside the Target on the corner of Rundle, about FOREIGN STUDENTS TAKING OUR JOBS!!! I see fashy prop in the city about once a year, but always with a different party, once there was even a BNP one laugh out loud doesn't mean much it only takes one dementoid to stick a poster up.

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Jun 5 2009 09:45

Yeah, A current affair and today tonight have a segment like that a week, so this isn't so worrying.

On the note of how rad immigrants are, new woolworths ad? just like-a the old country! -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2UQM338XU

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Jun 5 2009 11:37
Hungry56 wrote:
I saw an Australia First poster today just outside the Target on the corner of Rundle, about FOREIGN STUDENTS TAKING OUR JOBS!!! I see fashy prop in the city about once a year, but always with a different party, once there was even a BNP one laugh out loud doesn't mean much it only takes one dementoid to stick a poster up.

Hmmm I always thought it was more a matter of evil corporate arseholes sending out jobs overseas...

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Jun 5 2009 13:55
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Hmmm I always thought it was more a matter of evil corporate arseholes sending out jobs overseas...

No, the problem is always the foreigns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzivCJ9pzU&feature=related

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Jun 5 2009 16:27
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Hmmm I always thought it was more a matter of evil corporate arseholes sending out jobs overseas...

yeah but they the send the jobs overseas cause "the chinese will work for anything."

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Hmmm I always thought it was more a matter of evil corporate arseholes sending out jobs overseas...

yeah but they the send the jobs overseas cause "the chinese will work for anything."

Now I may be a little slow on the uptake here but I was thinking about that last night and would I be wrong in saying that, that is why Nixon visited China and Gough Whitlam officialy recognised the PRC? To ensure the possibility of moving manufacturing to China for cheap labour???

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Jun 6 2009 11:05

Probably not. The first wave of liberal economic reforms that led to the establishment of 'free market' Special Economic Zones didn't occur until the early 80s; they didn't really open up to foreign investment until the start of the 90s. Aufheben's article from a couple of years ago explains the reasoning behind this in detail; I can't remember it off the top of my head.

The Nixon and Whitlam stuff happened much earlier, in the first half of the 70s. I don't really know much about the geopolitical side of things, but I'd imagine the thaw in relations was more due to China trying to get the US onside to counterbalance the threat of the USSR, and the US likewise happy to have a relatively-major power move closer into its camp.

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Jun 6 2009 13:07

That does make perfect sense...seriously.

Cheers.