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vicent
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May 30 2013 12:53
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i just read about the tramways dispute , it was very inspiring!
how did the radicalism start? did anarchists stir things up?

and aren't conductors a form of police? (why work with them)? (just got a ticket today about 200$ bastards!)

vicent
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May 30 2013 12:57

also , i think we should consider doing something similar to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planka.nu

maybe join forces with these guys
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ticket-inspectors-in-Melbourne/2892217245...

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May 30 2013 13:33
vicent wrote:
how did the radicalism start? did anarchists stir things up?

and aren't conductors a form of police? (why work with them)? (just got a ticket today about 200$ bastards!)

1. The trammies had a long tradition of militant unionism. They only tossed out their Left officials shortly before the 1989-90 tram dispute because they were annoyed by their increasing conservatism and thus their hypocrisy. This provided the Right the opportunity to exploit divisions and take over the Union.

There were Anarchists active in the tram dispute - not enough to start anything, but enough to be a voice for radicalism when the officials would want to tone things down. Others would be better placed than I am to set down what the Anarchist role in the tram dispute was.

2. No, tram conductors weren't police. They collected fares and sold tickets, but their job didn't extend to checking tickets and booking evaders. That job was and still is the province of ticket inspectors. Of course, there was no shortage of conductors who put heavy pressure on people to buy tickets, but they didn't have the right of arrest, the power to demand ID or the authority to issue fines.

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May 30 2013 17:28

We've got a detailed history of the dispute here:
http://libcom.org/library/melbourne-tram-dispute-lockout

During and in the run-up to the dispute anarcho-syndicalists produced a rank-and-file transport workers' newsletter called Sparks, which we have a sizeable online archive of here:
http://libcom.org/library/sparks-bulletin

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May 30 2013 17:29

And no, conductors are not like police any more than retail workers are - in that they make sure customers pay for product.

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May 30 2013 21:01

Retail workers don't go about with the police, or check your address (giving a false one is a prosecutable offence).

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May 31 2013 01:10
flaneur wrote:
Retail workers don't go about with the police, or check your address (giving a false one is a prosecutable offence).

And neither did tram conductors. Flaneur is confusing them with ticket inspectors.