Solidarity - the British Workers' union

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Jan 5 2007 16:28
Solidarity - the British Workers' union

http://www.solidarity tradeunion.org/ [Admin - link broken]

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Welcome to the future of UK Trade Unionism
October 5th, 2006

Welcome to the website of the Solidarity Union. We take our name from the Polish Solidarnosc movement which was instrumental in toppling the corrupt State Socialist regime. We aim to protect, assist and promote the working and living conditions of the citizens of the British Isles; resist and oppose all forms of institutional union corruption and promote freedom within and without the Trades Union movement, protecting and promoting freedom of belief, thought and speech, irrespective of political and religious affiliation.

Our commitment to freedom of association and expression extends to both Communists and members of the British National Party. We believe that the involvement of some Unions in party politics is a diversion from their true function.

Solidarity recruits from all industrial sectors and professions. We have members in the health service, education, railways, construction to give just a few examples. We believe in ‘One Big Union’.

The idea is not new. In 1834 Robert Owen formed the Grand National Consolidated Trades Union in an attempt to unite all the workers into one Union. Initiatives for One Big Union have occurred across the world. Most notable was the attempt of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or the Wobblies) to organise One Big Union in the United States, Canada, and Australia and the Confederación Nacional del Trabajo (CNT) in Spain. We have no particular ideological affinity with either group, nor are we affiliated, but like them we see the sense of organising across trades and professions.

Our aim in Solidarity is to unite all workers, from all racial, religious and political backgrounds. We are not bound by TUC regulations on ‘poaching’ members from other Unions. Our call is for members of other Unions to leave them and join Solidarity - the Union of the future.

What is this? Who set it up? Does it really exist?

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Jan 5 2007 16:32

Also, the founder is a member of the "Third Way" party, whatever that is, and is against organising immigrant workers.

Sounds like bollocks to me, but I wondered if anyone knew anything about them.

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Jan 5 2007 16:32

It was set up by some BNP hacks, IIRC. Utterly insiginfigant and not worth worrying about, IMO.

Edit: and I just noticed, they're trying to make a positive out of the TUC refusing to recognise them as well, after they pushed so hard for it too grin

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Jan 5 2007 16:37

Strange that they mention the CNT and IWW.

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Jan 5 2007 16:38

Yeah I knew this was BNP linked, but seeing them mention anarcho-syndicalist unions is insane:

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Initiatives for One Big Union have occurred across the world. Most notable was the attempt of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or the Wobblies) to organise One Big Union in the United States, Canada, and Australia and the Confederación Nacional del Trabajo (CNT) in Spain. We have no particular ideological affinity with either group, nor are we affiliated, but like them we see the sense of organising across trades and professions.

!!!

saying it's for all races, that must just mean they'll only organise british citizen workers. Muppets.

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Jan 5 2007 16:39

yep, BNP front group i think - trying to get a presence in the workplace. about as dangerous as redwatch. i.e. not dangerous at all.

Solidarity - the union for racist scabs.

it would be interesting to hear how many suckers they've recruited though

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Jan 5 2007 16:56

A bunch of ex thrown out far - right sexually repressed ( heierachy ) Nazi BNP lot !

You know smash them out the unions ....

Rank and File action on delvering there shit is the way forward !

These knob heads share more in common with Hizbollah then they do IWW ( who in organised immigration workers 20 /30s and still do) and definitely CNT have been involved with the important Mercodona worker strikes, so how much in common, none !

and last most importantly if any sexually repressed Nazi BNP / NF / Combat / Aryan Animal Nations are online looking.

Solidarity where actually at there height and more inter - factory strike committees, which is very a odds with racial rubbish you get from these far right monkeys.

So Solidarity was the basic building block for a Anarcho - Sydicalist union .... smile like www.solfed.org.uk in Britain.

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Jan 5 2007 17:04

I think that it could be alot more dangerous than we are giving it due. By putting itself in a tradition of the IWW and CNT it presents itself as having a historical legacy which it doesnt at all, and it blurs its own political birth, which was out of the far right.

I think it would be interesting to see how many members it has by the end of this year, and if it has managed to recruit, we have to think about what it will mean to the workers movement.

Has searchlight wrote anything on 'Solidarity'?

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Jan 5 2007 17:08

i tried to go find the searchlight website by typing in
www. searchlight.org.uk [link broken- you'll see why!]. fucking hell.

ftony
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Jan 5 2007 17:10

got a proper searchlight article here: http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&story=157

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Jan 5 2007 17:16

Nothing since febuarys article. Does anyone see this union gaining members?

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Jan 5 2007 21:04

Probably going to end up like the Christian Council of Britain and their other front groups over the years, ie rejected/attacked by pretty much every other group within their field and marginalised to the point of insignificance.

my only concern would be them being able to take advantage of low unionisation/class consciousness at present and using it to strengthen their own case, both as a union and as propaganda for the BNP ("The BNP set up this union, which was able to do X when other unions didn't/couldn't").

on the other hand, that relies on them actually being able to do anything, which given the performance of those councillors they have got elected doesn't seem too likely.

one to keep an eye on but not that much of a threat.

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Jan 6 2007 10:23

i dont think we have a leg to stand on to make digs, since our own syndicalist attempts are so pathetic.

They seem to have a few things which will help them:
1. the union is non-sectarian from their perverse point of view, in UK we are split in two different syndicalist initiatives (well, IWW is not syndicalist but anyway).

2. they dont have historical package and its a new initiative. We suffer from this IMO to certain extent.

3. i could have a dig at the sorry state of organised anarchist movement and how it is like herding fucking cats with a lot of mess and little result, but who knows maybe their organising drive is the same. Somehow i doubt it and i wouldn't be suprised if they met their initial target of 500 members fairly quickly.

4. also, and this is the most important factor IMO, this union will enjoy support of many the small business up north where the business owner is maybe involved in BNP and may actually create initial membership base as a sweetheart union.

Anyways, i dont think it is a big threath but locally it could cause problems so it should not be dismissed.

lets just get our acts together.

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Jan 6 2007 11:37

I think that this is one to watch, particularly here in the North of England. It could be that it remains dormant like other BNP fronts but perhaps it could also grow quickly in towns such as Burnley, Keighley etc. Here's one scenario that I think is not impossible.

A couple of BNP members working in a wharehouse in a northern town join Solidarity and start agitating against the firm employing immigrant agency staff. Other permanent workers join Solidarity and a dispute develops in the firm when management sack a Solidarity member for refusing to work with an immigrant agency worker. Solidarity ballot for strike action (or there is a wildcat strike). A protracted dispute develops with Solidarity and the BNP setting up support groups all across the north. In a matter of months Solidarity could have thousands of members...

It's a possibility.

I also think that the name Solidarity is a very good one and will appeal to the underlying class consciousness of northern workers.

So, how are we going to combat these guys? IMO we need to be organising as class struggle anarchists/anarcho syndicalists into local groups across the north and eventually into an effective union. How long do we have? Who knows, but if in 5-10 years time we haven't achived this then maybe Solidarity will be imbedded in the north alongside a much larger BNP?

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Jan 6 2007 11:50

harrington posts quite regularly on u75 (of all places)

used to be a trolly dolly on the trains

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Jan 6 2007 16:01

Shit, they're on my patch as they've got a Leicester contact address!

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Jan 6 2007 16:33

This sounds a lot like the fascist "syndicalist" unions. They try and warp our idealogy so they can get workers to join.

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Jan 6 2007 17:25
violencia.proletariat wrote:
This sounds a lot like the fascist "syndicalist" unions. They try and warp our idealogy so they can get workers to join.

It is - national syndicalism. The Italian fascists -and Mussolini himself - came out of the syndicalist movement. It's worrying now that some anarchists are getting close to this kind of stuff with their obsession with immigration...

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Feb 5 2007 22:54

Your comment is particularly offensive as it very personal. Tell me, what exactly is wrong with being a "trolly dolly" ( as you so disparagingly put it)? It's actually catering work and a necessary job as all the other "menial" jobs that you seek to look down your nose at. What is it with so-called "socialists" like you who insult the very workers whose class identity you so like to venerate? Is being a bin collector, working in catering or sweeping the roads not good enough for someone who may actually be a middle class, university educated snob whose only contact with the "working class" is through the pages of some left-wing publication? Come on, let's have some respect for Mr Harrington and the job that he does - and for all those other workers in the catering industry...

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Feb 5 2007 23:42

No that's not how he meant it - no-one here would disparage someone for having a shit job, if they did they'd get flamed to fuck. As a newcomer to this board (and to left-wing politics in general i presume by your username) i can see why it would've come across that way, but you've misunderstood.

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Feb 6 2007 00:14

yeah he's obviously fash, not even trying to hide it, so i just didn't see the point in the obligatory anarchist foaming at the mouth, i think he did genuinely misunderstand oisleep's comment though so i thought i might as well put him right.

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Feb 6 2007 10:21

Spiritofalbion, it's obviously no one here has any problems with anyone working in the catering industry. My mum was a dinner lady, this site has extensive coverage of struggles in the food service industry:
http://libcom.org/tags/food-service

It's also obvious that you're a fascist moron:

spiritofalbion wrote:
Come on, let's have some respect for Mr Harrington

Yeah what a great nazi roll eyes

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Feb 6 2007 11:01

I think that the guy is probably a fascist. He probably googled 'Solidarity-the union for British workers'(I just tried it. This thread came up 4th).
John wrote that:

John. wrote:
It's also obvious that you're a fascist moron

The problem is, John, that they are not morons. When I read his comment, I could see how arguments like that can find resonance with workers. It is a point that has a basis in reality, lots of the 'left' are 'middle class'. It also plays on very basic class instincts, which lots of workers in the UK have.
The BNP today is not merely a gang of 'moronic fascist thugs' though I am not saying that that element doesn't exist inside it still. They are actually quite smooth political operators. Do you imagine that they could have achieved their recent successes, and growth if they weren't?
They know how to appeal to people, and are quite capable of arguing lines like this, and how they are for the 'working people' without mentioning the fact that their leader is a public school educated Cambridge old boy.
Maybe it was just an off the cuff comment, John, but they are much more sophisticated than you seem to give them credit for.
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Feb 6 2007 11:06

Oh, having just wikied Patrick Harrington I found that he has not one, but two university degrees. Quite strange for someone comming across as a 'horny handed toiler'.
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Feb 7 2007 12:35

"We can reveal... BNP forming a trade union.. Solidarity, the 'British Workers Union' will be run by Patrick Harrington, ex-head of the National Front but is disguising its links. It is due to launch later this month". From the anti-fascist 'News of the World', Sunday the 2nd of Feb.

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Feb 7 2007 12:50

also FYI

soidarity scabs wrote:
The first Annual General Meeting of the Solidarity Trade Union will take place at a Central London venue on Saturday, 24 February 2007.

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Feb 13 2007 12:56

it's interesting that they're claiming to be just another trade union, with no fascist links, but also they're too scared to publicise the time and place of their founding convention. hmmm...

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Feb 22 2007 13:58

They have "postponed" the event "for public order and health and safety reasons". Maybe they worked out there was a big anti-war demo in London that day?

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Feb 22 2007 13:59
antifaanarcho wrote:
They have "postponed" the event "for public order and health and safety reasons". Maybe they worked out there was a big anti-war demo in London that day?

Maybe only one person wanted to go?