Should wetherspoons become americanised

Yes
43% (3 votes)
No
57% (4 votes)
Total votes: 7

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andycrap
Sep 18 2005 15:41

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andycrap
Sep 19 2005 17:53
revol68 wrote:
which is what?

That whetherspoons are deliberately pushing out working class people by introducign a smoking ban?

Are you smoking fucking crack?

I take it anything that might make a place a wee bit nicer is middle class shite, eh?

"Fucking middle class wankers with their nice wines and food, it's a fucking disgrace."

seriously wise the fuck up.

I dont really get what you are rambling about revol,calm down and try again eh....

Steven.
Sep 19 2005 17:56

Andycrap - are you the guy who writes the stories for London Calling slagging off the 73 bus and nice food?

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Oh my god that's a quote worthy of gangster himself!! "Where is the proof that smoking harms your baby?" Jesus.

That is below the belt claiming my post are the same as gangsters,well where is the proof?or are you going to quote from Liberal no smoking campaigns,as i said there is proof for and against.

Oh my god - do you think campaigns against smoking are a liberal conspiracy against the working class? Gangster did make that same point a while ago.

There is absolutely no proof against the idea that smoking, or second-hand smoke is harmful to health. Please post links if you reckon there is.

The tobacco industry spent years trying to cover up how lethal it is. Would you rather believe the ultra-corporate propaganda (that no one even believes any more), or the "liberal" propaganda, backed up by decades of hard scientific proof - not to mention the deaths of hundreds of thousands.

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So now at least you recognise people don't have a choice to work in smoky environments. What you just think they should be forced to?

This is not what the thread is about is it?

Yes it is. You have not addressed this other than to say workers should, like Thatcher said, "get on their bikes" and find better jobs.

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You cannot catch AIDS off glasses - in fact it is impossible to catch AIDS off anyone in any way.

owww hang on a minute so you can catch cancer from glasses?

Is this some kind of sick joke? No of course you can't get cancer frmo glasses, but you can from breathing cigarette smoke!!!

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Do you at least acknowledge that the majority of the working class don't smoke?

Of course i do did i ever say that?

If the majority don't smoke, how is banning smoking an anti-working class conspiracy?

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are you with that mad twat revol?

roll eyes roll eyes

Man I'm actually thinking about quitting smoking now - like I stopped being veggie after an argument with an animal rights nut.

andycrap
Sep 19 2005 18:05

roll eyes my point is that its discrimination banning smoking in pubs and big companies lectureing us on what we can and cant do.

if you ar going to start making things up on what i have said and not said read the threads again.

That revol sounds firking pshcotic

Steven.
Sep 19 2005 18:13
andycrap wrote:
That revol sounds firking pshcotic

You keep going off on one at revol, but you have not seriously addressed any of his points, nor have you mine!

andycrap
Sep 19 2005 18:38

Whats the point steven this isnt a discussion board is it,wants the point in replying to revol he is just a ranting madman.

If you want to get personal,LIBCOM (Liberal communist) i seriously wonder what the hell CWar are doing on this forum (and i am not the only one) why do you attack so much?

Whats your grudge?i really do get the sence that you hate people slagging off anything thats middle class,thats my impression.

The wombels incident hasnt ben forgotten.

Errrr was that your thread below????

Mr. T

You cannot catch AIDS off glasses - in fact it is impossible to catch AIDS off anyone in any way.

Steven.
Sep 19 2005 18:48
andycrap wrote:
Whats the point john this isnt a discussion board is it,wants the point in replying to revol he is just a ranting madman.

He's not a madman, granted he may be a bit of a cock but he's a very smart guy.

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If you want to get personal,LIBCOM (Liberal communist) i seriously wonder what the hell CWar are doing on this forum (and i am not the only one) why do you attack so much?

Whats your grudge?i really do get the sence that you hate people slagging off anything thats middle class,thats my impression.

So saying smoking is dangerous is middle class now?

Is good food middle class too? Have you made moves to expel Paul "Wine-Drinking-in-the-pub" Marsh?

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The wombels incident hasnt ben forgotten.

What incident? confused

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Errrr was that your thread below????

Mr. T

You cannot catch AIDS off glasses - in fact it is impossible to catch AIDS off anyone in any way.

Do you mean that statement? Yes it was, and an entirely accurate one. Why?

(AIDS is a set of symptoms someone is exhibiting. HIV is a virus which can be caught, but they are two different things)

andycrap
Sep 19 2005 18:53

yeh what ever.....

Refused
Sep 19 2005 19:17

andy, you're full of crap.

oisleep
Sep 19 2005 20:16
revol68 wrote:
your claiming whetherspoons is trying to push out working class customers by introducing a smoking ban, no?

I'm saying your talking complete bollox, yeah?

i thought the issue went beyond the smoking to things like this quoted in the article linked to in the orginal post

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AN OLD war veteran has been banned for life from a Macclesfield bar – the second eviction of a pensioner over wearing tracksuit trousers at Wetherspoons within five weeks.

i have no problem with people eating salmon, wine and good food, it's there choice, i indulge in all of them on a regular basis as i don't want to eat the cheap, rotten synthetic food that's often dearer than cheap decent food, however, pubs like wetherspoons banning people for wearing trackies is a step in the wrong direction

oisleep
Sep 19 2005 20:24

people can eat what the fuck they like and wear what the fuck they like, and hopefully drink where the fuck they like whilst doing so

Refused
Sep 19 2005 20:25

As long as they're not smoking indoors.

oisleep
Sep 19 2005 20:35

see previous post about a return to victorian style "two pubs in one" type places for a solution to that problem

CSG in the posh lounge, Class War in the public bar

Refused
Sep 19 2005 20:40

They'll serve themselves, of course...under the watchful eye of Big Sister.

oisleep
Sep 19 2005 20:55
revol68 wrote:
and who my dear lad will be working in the public lounge? Androids or cyborgs with iron lungs?

Or does some cunts desire to smoke cancerous toxins in a confined public space rank over the health of the workers?

sushi style conveyor belts

the posh kids in CSG on the other side of the bar could load the drinks on and stare at them as they whizzed round to our comrades on the other side, with their weird smoking habbits

do you share such a concern for the health of the workers as regards, car exhaust fumes, risks of getting run over, mugged etc on the way to and from work just so some cunts desire to have a bevy is met, maybe we should close pubs altogether cromwellian puritan style

Mike Harman
Sep 19 2005 20:59
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sushi style conveyor belts

sushi restaurants with conveyer belts in London are the overpriced ones. There's a couple of places you can get good sushi for about the same price as fish and chips (For lunch) or a big curry (for dinner), but no whizzy belts involved.

oisleep
Sep 19 2005 21:02

aye but these are for pubs catch, the pricing schemes of sushi will not come with them

oisleep
Sep 19 2005 21:04
revol68 wrote:
Infact many people have started to smoke as a sneaky way of chatting up. Tjough seeing someone smoke puts me well off.

*lights up*

Steven.
Sep 19 2005 23:04
oisleep wrote:
do you share such a concern for the health of the workers as regards, car exhaust fumes, risks of getting run over, mugged etc on the way to and from work just so some cunts desire to have a bevy is met, maybe we should close pubs altogether cromwellian puritan style

I think people at work should be as safe as possible

Even here over 20,000 people are killed by their jobs every year, and it's fucking outrageous!

oisleep
Sep 21 2005 11:33

yeah that's only at work

we can be poisoned, blown up, burnt, run over on the way to work, ditto whilst preparing to go to work, ironing for example carries all those risks in itself, and that's before we even leave home

andycrap
Sep 21 2005 14:01
revol68 wrote:
im sorry but can you show me that having a pint necessariy leads to others having to have their eyes, lungs and noses assaulted by smelly cancerous shit. No one is stopping people smoking outside in open spaces.

Anyway apparently in Dublin it's been quite good, brought back alot of beer gardens and even amongst the smokers theres a blitz spirit as they huddle outside. Infact many people have started to smoke as a sneaky way of chatting up. Tjough seeing someone smoke puts me well off.

fucking sounds like it;

SEVENTEEN Waterford publicans are to be backed by Europe's leading constitutional lawyers to mount a constitutional challenge to a blanket smoking ban in the workplace. A group calling themselves European Smokers Against Discrimination is to lodge documentation in the High Court, within the next two weeks.

Refused
Sep 21 2005 14:19

Tough shit, bastards! grin

I've really had enough of inconsiderate smokers impinging on my right to breathe (relatively) clean air. Some dickheads do it on the bus with no smoking signs in front of them. It doesn't matter anymore where I'm walking odds are I'll be behind a smoker, nonchalantly blowing his shite behind him.

You wanna smoke, do it your god-damn garden or out your window. Or anywhere I don't have to smell it and risk my own health. Or just don't do it. You'd think the big "smoking kills" stickers would be enough. Jeez.

All hail the Irish ban.

Refused
Sep 21 2005 14:24
revol68 wrote:
Refused wrote:
All hail the Irish ban.

You nasty lil bigot!

grin

Yer ma loves it.

Steven.
Sep 21 2005 16:03
andycrap wrote:
fucking sounds like it;

SEVENTEEN Waterford publicans are to be backed by Europe's leading constitutional lawyers to mount a constitutional challenge to a blanket smoking ban in the workplace. A group calling themselves European Smokers Against Discrimination is to lodge documentation in the High Court, within the next two weeks.

It's a good thing those working class hero lawyers are taking on the middle class yuppies who spread that whole "smoking is dangerous" conspiracy!

creepyoller
Sep 21 2005 16:30

Anarchist Bookfair flyer, bottom right corner, 'This is a smoke-free venue.'

PaulMarsh
Sep 21 2005 17:20
creepyoller wrote:
Anarchist Bookfair flyer, bottom right corner, 'This is a smoke-free venue.'

Well, those who don't like it can leave the venue, turn left, take a couple of steps and they will be at the local Wetherspoons, The Coronet, where they can still smoke.

At least for now.

kalabine
Oct 12 2005 09:04
creepyoller wrote:
Anarchist Bookfair flyer, bottom right corner, 'This is a smoke-free venue.'

good 8)

PaulMarsh
Oct 28 2005 20:38

Oh well, when we do our Class War anti-Wetherspoons pamphlet, at least we now know where to launch it, who to do the music, and who to stop the music!