The libcom library archiving Christmas wish list!
Submitted by libcom on Dec 15 2009 11:23
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Well, it's the holiday season, here is a wish list of content we would like archived on libcom.org over the next year, if anyone felt like giving us a present!
Of course we still want any new content, or any texts not currently online scanned in. This type of thing would be a priority, but is not something which everyone can do. So here is a list of other websites whose content we would like duplicated on libcom.org.
We think it is worth duplicating content elsewhere on the net on libcom.org for several reasons. Firstly, libcom is one of the world's most popular revolutionary/anarchist websites, so any content is likely to be read more here than on a smaller site. Secondly, content on our site appears highly in Google rankings, so articles posted here are more likely to be found and read by casual browsers. Thirdly, we are the biggest online anarchist/libertarian communist library, and so have big archives of related texts and background articles which can be linked to new additions. Finally, we have a good, sound and stable collective of administrators, editors, contributors and donors, so our website is much less likely than most to go down or be deleted. This happened to many anarchist/communist websites hosted on geocities recently - fortunately many of them were archived on libcom.org as outlined here. Furthermore, our site is shortly due to be archived permanently by the British Library, so whatever happens content posted to libcom.org will be available in perpetuity.
So here is our Christmas list of websites, in rough order of priority.
With these websites, generally we would want to prioritise hosting historical articles, with theoretical articles as a lower priority. As a general note, we would probably have a majority of the articles from these websites hosted on libcom.org anyway, and probably only a small minority would actually need copying over.
These are the main websites whose articles we would like archived on libcom.org:
http://www.mwr.org.uk/
collective action notes - http://redemmas.org/collective_action_notes/
http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner/ - break their haughty power
http://www.left-dis.nl/ - Left-wing communism
http://www.mouvement-communiste.com/index.php?view=lettres&language=EN - the English language stuff
http://www.processedworld.com/home.html
http://www.nestormakhno.info/
www.midnightnotes.org
www.revoltagainstplenty.com
http://www.againstsleepandnightmare.com/
www.classagainstclass.com (currently offline - many texts here however: http://reocities.com/cordobakaf/)
kurasje - http://www.kurasje.org/
http://gurgaonworkersnews.wordpress.com/
Can anyone think of any others that we should archive as well? If so please post up here so we can edit them in.
If you would like to help us out with any of this, please say here below or drop one of us a private message. We can provide any assistance required, and any problems you can post up in our feedback/content forum for assistance from admins or some of our users.
So, any volunteers?
Updated later to add:
Underway
Sites which are being archived currently:
break their haughty power - by Django
processed world - by juozas
Done
Sites which have been done:
www.prole.info - by libcom
http://www.polkagris.nu/?cat=29
Tintin comic book - http://tintinrevolution.free.fr/ - it would be great if someone could just group the pages together in one PDF document and put it in the library. - both by Khawaga
wildcat Germany - http://www.wildcat-www.de/en/eindex.htm - by Khawaga
http://www.prol-position.net/- by libcom
Troploin - captain soap
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/kolinko/engl/e_index.htm - by libcom
John Gray - http://musicchat.reocities.com/CapitolHill/6397/sitelist.htm - by libcom
subversion site - http://www.reocities.com/knightrose.geo/- by dead end
- libcom's blog
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Dec 15 2009 13:22
#2
breaking free ----> http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/03/04/18574991.php
Dec 15 2009 13:29
#3
captain soap wrote:
I will continue copying Collective Action Notes across one of these days.
cheers!
I'm doing bits and pieces from all of them, Wildcat Germany mostly at the moment.
Dec 15 2009 13:33
#4
smg wrote:
breaking free ----> http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/03/04/18574991.php
that would be good without the rubbish introduction and end page...
Dec 15 2009 13:44
#5
That awesome that the British Library are archiving the site 
Dec 15 2009 13:59
#6
If there's any academic articles that you'd like archived give me the reference and I'll make an effort to go through them one by one and import the text. Hosting reprints are usually fine after a year as long as normal referncing procedure is followed as far as i know.
Dec 15 2009 15:24
#7
cheers, I'm not aware of any academic articles really. But anything that you think would be good, like the Spain thing that looks interesting.
Yeah, the British library thing is great, because even if we all got hit by a bus on a libcom admin outing then it will still be there for ever.
Dec 15 2009 15:54
#8
Steven. wrote:
Yeah, the British library thing is great.
yes, congrats
Dec 15 2009 16:02
#9
Steven. wrote:
cheers, I'm not aware of any academic articles really. But anything that you think would be good, like the Spain thing that looks interesting
yeah i stuck that up as an example
there's more like that
i'll do when i have time
Dec 15 2009 17:07
#10
I can do polkagris.nu.
Dec 15 2009 17:13
#11
Khawaga wrote:
I can do polkagris.nu.
that would be awesome, thanks. We've got most of the stuff already, just missing a couple of bits and pieces.
Dec 15 2009 17:17
#12
Choccy wrote:
That awesome that the British Library are archiving the site :)
does that include archiving of libcommunity?
Dec 15 2009 17:46
#13
Choccy wrote:
If there's any academic articles that you'd like archived give me the reference
I'll make a request, if you can find it; New Left Review no. 92, July-Aug 1975, pp. 93-102 - 'The Yenan Opposition' by Gregor Benton.
It's about this guy and contains the text that led to him being offed by Mao & co.;
Quote:
... the Marxist intellectual Wang Shih-wei, who dared to criticise the hierarchical structure of the nascent Maoist bureaucracy. He was silenced, persecuted and eventually murdered for his brave criticisms. http://libcom.org/library/bureaucrats-simon-leys
Dec 15 2009 17:58
#14
I'll do the TinTin pdf as well.
Dec 15 2009 18:00
#15
Khawaga wrote:
I'll do the TinTin pdf as well.
that's also great, I don't know if you saw the one above, if maybe you can just delete the additional pages and rotate it or something...
Dec 15 2009 18:21
#16
Ret Marut wrote:
Choccy wrote:
If there's any academic articles that you'd like archived give me the referenceI'll make a request, if you can find it; New Left Review no. 92, July-Aug 1975, pp. 93-102 - 'The Yenan Opposition' by Gregor Benton.
It's about this guy and contains the text that led to him being offed by Mao & co.;Quote:
... the Marxist intellectual Wang Shih-wei, who dared to criticise the hierarchical structure of the nascent Maoist bureaucracy. He was silenced, persecuted and eventually murdered for his brave criticisms. http://libcom.org/library/bureaucrats-simon-leys
if it exists electronically that far back (most periodicals don't) i should be able to get it
[edit] oh it does, article here now
Dec 15 2009 18:28
#17
Ooops, I think I messed up the tintin pdf. Realized this after I uploaded it. Working to fix it now.
Dec 15 2009 18:42
#18
The rotating didn't work that well. It's just a shitty scan. It would've been better if they'd been scans of individual pages.
Dec 15 2009 20:54
#19
Steve, do you want this piece of fiction from Kevin Keating? http://www.polkagris.nu/?p=8
Dec 15 2009 21:50
#20
How about archiving Processed World? (http://www.processedworld.com/)
Almost 35 issues of content similar to "the diary of the shirking temp", the faceless struggle articles and histories of people organizing in the service industry in Bay Area, California. Not everything on PW site is worthwhile, but there are some real gems there.
Reading Processed World has kept me sane while counting my hours in a cubicle.
Also it looks like that site is well maintained and will remain online for a while, but it makes sense to have some of those articles here for the reasons you explained.
I could do the work of importing them if the editors think it is worth it.
Here's the intro to the first issue from 1981: http://www.processedworld.com/Issues/issue01/01hello.html
Dec 16 2009 00:02
#21
Choccy wrote:
if it exists electronically that far back (most periodicals don't) i should be able to get it[edit] oh it does, article here now
Thanks for that, great you found it - but what I really wanted was the translations that follow that intro; Ting Ling - 'Thoughts on March 8' and Wang Shi-wei - 'Wild Lilies'.
Dec 16 2009 19:12
#22
Khawaga wrote:
Steve, do you want this piece of fiction from Kevin Keating? http://www.polkagris.nu/?p=8
I would probably give that a miss...
Re processed world, yes that would be great! I'll add it to the list at the top. I heard about the group from posts on here from people who were involved, but I can't believe I've never seen that website.
Dec 16 2009 19:25
#23
Roger. There's another piece of fiction on polkagris. Scratch that as well? If so, then polkagris is done.
Dec 16 2009 20:04
#24
If I can scan it I will try to put Peter Rachleff's "Council Communism and Marxism". I assume it is not online anywehere.
Dec 16 2009 20:11
#25
Ret Marut wrote:
Choccy wrote:
if it exists electronically that far back (most periodicals don't) i should be able to get it[edit] oh it does, article here now
Thanks for that, great you found it - but what I really wanted was the translations that follow that intro; Ting Ling - 'Thoughts on March 8' and Wang Shi-wei - 'Wild Lilies'.
Done the Ting Ling one, but the other one is not in that issue.
Give me the correct reference if you know it and I'll add it 
Dec 16 2009 20:54
#26
Khawaga wrote:
Roger. There's another piece of fiction on polkagris. Scratch that as well? If so, then polkagris is done.
is that the Fredy Perlman one? If so yes, if not add it if it's any good but not if it's rubbish.
Dec 16 2009 21:26
#27
It's this. http://www.polkagris.nu/?p=71
I think it's shite fwiw.
I am adding the Perlman piece later today.
Dec 16 2009 23:28
#28
there is some texts on troploin site that werent archived yet, eg "in for a crisis"..
Dec 17 2009 03:03
#29
Choccy wrote:
Done the Ting Ling one, but the other one is not in that issue.
Give me the correct reference if you know it and I'll add it
I found the other one. It's in the same issue, but called Wild Lily. Anyway, it's in the library now.
Dec 17 2009 03:11
#30
I can add the Wildcat stuff as well. Should keep me occupied over the holidays.
Dec 17 2009 04:49
#31
kotob wrote:
there is some texts on troploin site that werent archived yet, eg "in for a crisis"..
Yeah there used to be quite a few troploin articles that weren't copied here; unfortunately they changed their site software a while ago and it became really hard to find anything.
edit: I take that back, I just looked at the site and they've rearranged it as it used to be. I might go through it over the holidays.
Dec 17 2009 11:11
#32
The Troploin text(s) should definitely be put on here. Should be a priority, I'd think.
Dec 17 2009 11:33
#33
Khawaga wrote:
Choccy wrote:
Done the Ting Ling one, but the other one is not in that issue.
Give me the correct reference if you know it and I'll add itI found the other one. It's in the same issue, but called Wild Lily. Anyway, it's in the library now.
That's great, cheers guys.
Dec 17 2009 12:45
#34
Khawaga wrote:
Choccy wrote:
Done the Ting Ling one, but the other one is not in that issue.
Give me the correct reference if you know it and I'll add itI found the other one. It's in the same issue, but called Wild Lily. Anyway, it's in the library now.
sorry, i don't assume that everything chinese sounding is the same article
Dec 18 2009 13:53
#35
you guys are excellent, cheers! I'm going through doing prole.info
Dec 19 2009 20:22
#36
Choccy wrote:
sorry, i don't assume that everything chinese sounding is the same article
Aren't you one of them scientisitc folks? Deduction mate, deduction
Dec 20 2009 00:14
#37
Intro and links made for those texts; http://libcom.org/tags/yenan-literary-opposition
Jan 4 2010 21:21
#38
prole.info done, going to move on to a new one soon.
Khawaga, is Wildcat Germany done ? and soap, is Troploin? If so I will update the OP
Jan 5 2010 01:17
#39
Wildcat Germany is not done yet. I've got about a third or so left. Will be done hopefully in a week.
Jan 5 2010 01:23
#40
great.
We should do Loren Goldner's site has well:
http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner/
Jan 5 2010 12:47
#41
Steven. wrote:
We should do Loren Goldner's site has well:
http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner/
This might be a good one to start with:
“Socialism in one country” before Stalin, and the origins of reactionary “anti-Imperialism”: the case of Turkey, 1917-1925
http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner/turkey.html
Jan 5 2010 13:07
#42
he e-mailed that to us to put up immediately, which we did! If you wanted to help out with some of the others that would be great - we can provide any advice or support required.
I'm now working through Prol-Position in reverse order, done all the archive and issues 1 and 2, doing 3 now. If someone else wanted to start with the more recent stuff (of which we have a lot already) and work backwards that would be okay as we could meet in the middle...
Jan 5 2010 14:32
#43
Steven. wrote:
he e-mailed that to us to put up immediately, which we did!
OK, I've found it now: http://libcom.org/tags/loren-goldner
Jan 5 2010 16:18
#44
What about:
Abolishing the Borders From Below
http://www.abb.hardcore.lt/joomla/index.php
Anarchist International Information Service
http://www.ana rchy.no/ admin - hostile link broken
Big Flame
http://bigflameuk.wordpress.com/
Blaumachen
http://www.blaumachen.gr/
Translations of stuff
http://www.generation-online.org/t/translations.htm
Anarchists in the Gulag (and prison and exile)
http://gulaganarchists.wordpress.com/
Love & Rage Archive
http://www.loveandrage.org/
Marx Myths & Legends
http://marxmyths.org/index.php
The Red Menace
http://www.connexions.org/RedMenace.htm
Jan 5 2010 16:58
#45
FARIDABAD MAJDOOR SAMACHAR
http://faridabadmajdoorsamachar.blogspot.com/
I think they are, (or at least connected to), Kamunist Kranti
Jan 5 2010 17:07
#46
yeah, a lot of that stuff looks good - anarchy.no however, no way! It is a nonsense website filled with disinformation and plain lunacy - it claims that Sweden had an anarchist revolution a few years ago, and is now 70% anarchy and things like that.
With abolishing borders from below, most of the content probably wouldn't be that appropriate, but the odd individual article could be good, about particular aspects of class struggle, a particular strike or something like that.
Jan 5 2010 17:09
#47
Khawaga wrote:
FARIDABAD MAJDOOR SAMACHAR
http://faridabadmajdoorsamachar.blogspot.com/I think they are, (or at least connected to), Kamunist Kranti
yes, it is them.
Jan 5 2010 17:28
#48
Steven. wrote:
yeah, a lot of that stuff looks good - anarchy.no however, no way! It is a nonsense website filled with disinformation and plain lunacy - it claims that Sweden had an anarchist revolution a few years ago, and is now 70% anarchy and things like that.With abolishing borders from below, most of the content probably wouldn't be that appropriate, but the odd individual article could be good, about particular aspects of class struggle, a particular strike or something like that.
Yeah I was checking it out just now. It's something I linked to my blog a while ago but never looked at. It reminds me of a former housemate who was manic and some of the stuff she would write.
Jan 6 2010 01:42
#49
Troploin is now done (the English stuff, at least).
Jan 7 2010 21:18
#50
awesome, thank you!
Jan 9 2010 06:04
#51
I've done all the original Wildcat articles. There are four articles by various autonomist writers that are not in the library, but I'll post them as well.
I'll also do the FARIDABAD MAJDOOR SAMACHAR blog (should they have their own tag, or should I just use Kamunist Kranti?). Btw, I've been in touch them and mentioned that I could upload their stuff to libcom and they're cool with it.
Jan 11 2010 19:25
#52
I'll take on getting Loren Goldner stuff which isn't archived already yet up.
Jan 12 2010 12:05
#53
Django wrote:
I'll take on getting Loren Goldner stuff which isn't archived already yet up.
awesome. I'm still working through Prol-Position, only got three newsletters to go though I think
Jan 18 2010 13:31
#54
finally finished Prol-Position, that was a marathon, I didn't realise how much stuff there was!
Now have made a start on the John Gray archive, this doesn't look so bad as there aren't that many texts actually on the site, most of them are links to external texts. However, a fair few of them are quite long. I'm going through the "texts on this site" section, starting at the bottom and working up, so if anyone else wanted to do any John Gray feel free, but probably best to start from the top down.
in doing this, I noticed that the whole of the old subversion site is still online, as GeoCities got backed up - on reocities:
http://www.reocities.com/knightrose.geo/
Jan 18 2010 14:02
#55
bump, because I have also updated the original post with stuff done, and more suggestions of stuff to archive
Jan 18 2010 17:09
#56
does anybody know why classagainstclass.com is offline?
Jan 18 2010 17:33
#57
I don't, no, sorry. Hopefully just a temporary thing.
The old version of the site is archived here:
http://reocities.com/cordobakaf/
Jan 22 2010 01:00
#58
we should do this as well:
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/kolinko/engl/e_index.htm
Jan 24 2010 16:13
#59
^ now done.
Jan 27 2010 20:29
#60
I've now done everything on John Gray in English, apart from the couple of texts by groups connected with negationism
Jan 29 2010 09:29
#61
Just got the last english Blaumachen article that wasn't on here, so that can be crossed off now.
Jan 29 2010 09:34
#62
If no one has claimed Subversion, I'll tackle it.
Jan 29 2010 10:20
#63
Dead End wrote:
If no one has claimed Subversion, I'll tackle it.
thanks for the Greek stuff!
And subversion, that would be great - I had a proper look at that site on reocities and unfortunately a lot of the actual articles are missing, but it would be great to get what we can from there then we can see what is missing
Feb 5 2010 07:32
#64
Subversion is done. Or what is left of it is done. Reocities has an option if a page doesn't come up where you can give them your email and they will send you a message when they recover it. I did that with most of the articles that were down.
Feb 5 2010 07:46
#65
Prob worth asking Knightrose if he has copies of the missing stuff, no?
p.s: thanks to all you folks who've been doing this, you've added a ton of stuff to my "to read" list that I'm slowly but surely working my way through.
Feb 5 2010 17:38
#66
Dead-end - thank you very much! And for setting up notifications for if they recover anything.
I spoke to knight rose, apparently he doesn't have anything else in electronic format he doesn't think. It really sucks, because we could have done it when we were archiving GeoCities, but I thought he said that everything was already on AF-North. But it wasn't.
He said he would look around on his computer to see if any of it was still there though I think.
I am currently working my way through Gurgaon Workers News now...
Feb 12 2010 20:35
#67
just added McDonald's workers resistance to the list of stuff to archive. I thought I did it all a couple of years ago, but actually I don't think I did everything. So I hand copying the rest of the English language stuff over would be great:
http://www.mwr.org.uk/
I'm still slowly working through Gurgaon workers news
Feb 15 2010 10:01
#68
Couple that I found that I havent really looked through yet, but am posting them here anyway
alt.eRED
http://www.reocities.com/CapitolHill/3843/
Plawiuk pontificates
http://www.reocities.com/CapitolHill/5202/
MERSEY DOCKS DISPUTE (UK)
http://www.reocities.com/CapitolHill/3843/dockhome.html
Feb 15 2010 10:05
#69
Oh, by the way the Internet Archive has a bunch of Subversion stuff that Reocities didn't have, so I'll be doing that this week.
Probably a good idea to check the Internet Archive for any sites that went down.
Feb 15 2010 11:49
#70
Dead End wrote:
Oh, by the way the Internet Archive has a bunch of Subversion stuff that Reocities didn't have, so I'll be doing that this week.Probably a good idea to check the Internet Archive for any sites that went down.
hey, that would be great. I will check out those other sites you posted when I get a chance
I will continue copying Collective Action Notes across one of these days.