Welcome Mockbill - how'd you find the site?
(and no i didnt know that 
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Apr 6 2007 00:08
Apr 6 2007 08:42
mockbill wrote:
I just finished Leontiev's book, "political economy", which is absolutely brilliant.
It appears as if there are a few people with that name....
Apr 6 2007 12:27
Hello all;
Had a look around the forum and you all seem like a decent bunch .
I'm not up to speed on all the ideological stuff, so this is a steep learning curve for me
Hope you can bear with me.
Found the site on www.stumbleupon.com
I'm just a hard working guy trying to the best for his family, and believe a better world is possible.
I always considered my-self to be pretty liberal, but the political landscape has moved so far to the right in recent years I'm moving further and further to the left (don't hold that against me).
The main reason for being here is, I guess, to learn about alternative ideas and to educate my-self.
Apr 6 2007 13:39
Thanks!
To answer both your questions:
- if i remember well i found the site by trying to find out if there were some open-minded people in London...so, it is not completely "by chance" i guess
- yep, sorry, it is Lev Leontiev. I saw that the book was on a reading list in the libcom library section, I was amazed because I think the book is hard to find (maybe it is not that hard when you know where to look for it). I myself have it from my father (it was published in France after May 68, thanks to the pseudo-revolution climax, under the name "Elements d'économie politique marxiste"), editor Novosti, i am thinking of scanning it...would it be the case, i'll let you know.
See ya!
Apr 6 2007 15:56
Yeah if you scan/OCR please let us know. Welcome to the site mockbill and oxfordreview!
Apr 6 2007 16:13
Joseph K. wrote:
there's a new-ish syndicalist group at manchester uni you might like to check out if you haven't already - student direct action (they might be SolFed linked, not sure but there's overlap of members at least)
We're not linked with SolFed as far as I'm aware. A couple of members are in SolFed and a couple are in AFed.
Apr 7 2007 14:53
Hey all, Name's Daniel, as is probably quite obvious, and I happen to be here completely by accident as it happens.
I'm not terribly good at all the talking about myself stuff so in short I'm taking my A levels in Kettering, Northants, I don't follow any doctrine in particular but (and I get the impression this may make me somewhat unpopular) I am a wee bit of a Leninist. I'm by no means well educated on anything political, I just happen to be interested. Cheers.
Apr 7 2007 21:43
hi, just stumbled across this site looking up what 'libertarian communist' meant... and realising it described my views so well that this might be a place I can read interesting stuff and engage with similar minded-people. Seems barmy that I hadn't come across the term before. I got involved with anarchist politics in the early 1980s, miners' strike, greenham, all that kind of stuff, then the tail end of Thatcherism crushed the political will out of me & I escaped abroad and carried on spending as much time out of the country as I could until the late 1990s. Now feel as if I've become all that I swore I'd never be - property-owning, 2 kids, safe job, sensible car etc. - and it's time to get back to some of the things I believe in...
Apr 7 2007 21:55
Hello you two. David, don't worry it doesn't last long
Apr 8 2007 04:23
Howdy folks. Just poking around. Guess I figured I just don't spend enough time on the internet...
Apr 8 2007 04:40
j.rogue wrote:
Howdy folks. Just poking around. Guess I figured I just don't spend enough time on the internet...
your more than welcome fellow worker!
Apr 9 2007 13:40
hi Scuffer. The Anarchist Federation are meeting on the 12th April at the Basement, 24 Lever St, Manchester M1 1HW - starts at 7.30. Planning actvities and a newsletter, plus time for discussion. You'll be really welcome.
Apr 9 2007 16:54
Thanks knightrose.
I'll get along on Thursday, and I'll also pop into the IWW Meeting on Tuesday too.
Reading some of the other new members comments, I feel a bit more at home in not knowing exactly how to describe my politics.
The first thing I need to do is get reading!
I wouldn't have myself down as 'revolutionary', though some of my views would probably be considered that, and I have definite affinity with marxism, anarchism and syndicalism, if that isn't contradictory. Although I identify with some aspects of communism, I wouldn't sign up for that, probably too much bad history associated with it, though I know that no-one has ever really tried it.
Not sure exactly what this 'libertarian' label means though. Can anybody shed any light on this in layman's terms? Very definitely anti-capitalist, anti-theist and athiest though.
Looking forward to meeting you all.
Scuffer
Apr 9 2007 17:13
Hi Scuffer, welcome in.
The libcom glossary has libertarian as:
Quote:
Libertarian means aspiring for greater liberty, and reduction of the powers over the individual, whether by the state, capital or any other hierarchy.Was originally synonymous with "anarchist" but now often associated with capitalist neoliberalism which has wrongly tried to claim the term as its own.
Apr 9 2007 19:55
It'll be3 good to meet you scuffer. I may well not be along at the IWW meeting. I'll definitely be at the AF one.
Apr 11 2007 05:01
Tere, everyone!
I'm a crazed Alaskan of Estonian heritage, who has citizenship both there, and in Canada. As well as the U.S! Funkalicious, eh? I'm more of a socialist than an anarchist in many ways, although Kroptokin is one of my idols, and I wouldn't be where I am today without a healthy dose of working anarchy, bwahaha! I also have strong syndicalist leanings, and believe it is far more workable in countries that are affixated to capitalist growth. I also have some strange admirations, but I digress. This place looks absolutely incredible, and I'm glad I've found it. I only hope that my time here'll interest other people as much as I'm sure it'll interest me.
Aah, and some background. I'm a member in a lot of organizations, due to my cross-border ramblings. If you know 'em, great! Nice to meetcha, comrades! If not, no worries, I'll ramble for ya. I sometimes think of myself as a relic from the early nineteen-twenties, and act accordingly. So if I seem strangely old-fashioned, you now know why. Sorry for rambling and all, cheers!
Apr 11 2007 12:54
Hello all
I am new to the forums as well. I am an anarchist from Greece.
I found the site from myspace.com ..... I looked around a bit and decided to register as well..
Solidarity to all anarchist struggles
SMASH THE SYSTEM 
Apr 11 2007 14:09
Hi Vasak and Spaced!
Apr 11 2007 22:36
I popped into the IWW Meeting in Manchester after work on Tuesday, but there was no-one around.
I thought I'd got the wrong night as the Socialist Party were next door!
Wish I'd hung around after I'd got home and realised I did have the right date.
I'll definitely be along to the AF meeting at Basement on Tuesday.
Just read loads of stuff about Dave Hann and Paul Marsh elsewhere on the site. What's all that about?
Apr 12 2007 00:04
scuffer wrote:
I popped into the IWW Meeting in Manchester after work on Tuesday, but there was no-one around.I thought I'd got the wrong night as the Socialist Party were next door!
Wish I'd hung around after I'd got home and realised I did have the right date.
you should give them a ring or shoot them a email.
Apr 12 2007 07:15
The Af meeting is Thursday - today! See you there.
Apr 12 2007 10:32
Oxfordreview, scuffer, daniel, spaced mockbill and all the other new people, welcome!
Any problems or questions here, ask on our feedback forum. otherwise, I hope you enjoy using the site!
Daniel Brennan wrote:
I don't follow any doctrine in particular but (and I get the impression this may make me somewhat unpopular) I am a wee bit of a Leninist.
Hey don't worry, been there, it'll pass 
Any of you new people in London, this Friday 13th we're having some drinks on old street if you fancied meeting up:
http://libcom.org/forums/south-east-and-london/london-libcom-drinks-13th-april-shoreditch
Apr 12 2007 13:13
Hiya
I started a thread on the blood service in the 'organise' forum, + thought I would post a hello in here in case I go on to join in other discussions.
I haven't had much time (or inclination) to read much of any sort of left-wing theory, + have an ideologically wide ranging set of mates/people I do stuff with, but lately I am definitely starting to work out what 'tendencies' I have most in common with.
Democratic workplace organising makes my pulse race!
What a geek 
Apr 12 2007 13:50
germs90 wrote:
Democratic workplace organising makes my pulse race!What a geek
you're in good company germs 
Apr 13 2007 07:31
Yeah. 
I think it's safe to say that the though of direct democracy makes heart go rat-a-tat-tat, so we're all good. Thanks for the welcomes, all!
Apr 13 2007 09:49
Scuffer, it looks like you got the date wrong. We met last night. Our next meeting is in two weeks - 26th April. Keep your eye on the north forum for any further details.
Apr 14 2007 11:46
Hi people. I'm a Londoner who's dabbled in various political groups so I've heard of this site off and on for ages but never got around to joining until now. At the moment I'm most interested in social ecology, though I've never felt comfortable with signing up to a particular creed and I don't think that's about to change. I'm also interested in cheese and its potential as a revolutionary catalyst when denied to the middle classes.
Apr 15 2007 01:52
undercover wrote:
Hi people. I'm a Londoner who's dabbled in various political groups so I've heard of this site off and on for ages but never got around to joining until now. At the moment I'm most interested in social ecology, though I've never felt comfortable with signing up to a particular creed and I don't think that's about to change. I'm also interested in cheese and its potential as a revolutionary catalyst when denied to the middle classes.
Yeah they DO tend to get angsty when denied the Brie.
Welcome to the boards undercover. 
Er we are not awash with social ecologists here tbh but there ARE a few. And quality not quantity.
Love
LW X
Apr 15 2007 09:54
Hi everyone, Im Daniel and I currently live in Eastbourne, I have been an anarchist for a couple years now. When it comes to how I got involved with anarchism what happened was I realised just how crap things are in the world and wish their was something I could do about it but I didont know anyone or any organisation that where trying to bring about any real change. The only ones I did know about were communists and back then I didont really know anything about communism except that they had it in russia and for some reason it didont work out and because of this I didont understand why some people would want to try and get communism going in this country. But I didont know anyone else who wanted real change at the time so I went on to the internet and did a search on the word communism and when looking at the results of that search I came across the website for the Anarchist federation and started reading the ideas they have on there. I agreed with all they stood although I was concern about their attitude towards religon but not any more.
Can comment on articles and discussions
Hi everyone,
i am a French guy studying in London, i am really glad i found this forum, by chance. Although i have never been involved properly in any politics, i try to keep a critical eye on information and capitalism has always struck me as utterly absurd.
I just finished Leontiev's book, "political economy", which is absolutely brilliant. Not only does it explain very simply marxism, it also tells some things that are not taught in history classes, even in France (lol). Like the fact that, although more than 2 million of people died of hunger during 1934 as a consequence of the black thursday, several millions of railcars of food (cereals, rice, meat) were volontarily distroyed to keep the prices high. But you probably know this already!
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Mockbill