Founding Congress of the new international anarcho-syndicalist and revolutionary syndicalist.

Can someone explain the nature and geographical extent of the IWW's involvement (if any?) in this new organisation ?

I don't think IWW NARA delegates have a mandate besides "go there".

Let the "games begin"

Let the degeneration begin.

If only we could merge the IWA (1922), the new 2018 one, and all the other revolutionary syndicalist and anarcho-syndicalist unions. This would be the best idea as far as I know. And then begin to further improve relations with the IFA. Then we would have a much stronger anarchist movement. Show me why I'm wrong, but I doubt many of you will disagree.

I mean if you want to ignore the the material world these organizations exist in and are shaped by, then sure, just cobbling them all together into One Big Really Tiny Org sounds like a great idea

Who or what is "GG/BO (GER)"?

Edit: Never mind, it's the Gefangener Gewerkschaft-Bundesweite Organization ˗ Prisoners' Union- National Organisation (http://column.global-labour-university.org/2016/01/interview-with-german...)

MALATESTA, I don't know if you are aware but this whole stuff is the outcome of some years of attempts to split the IWA and also to move it towards attemots to merge with organizations which diverge from more specifically anarchist positions. So no, this is something which is making the anarchist position much weaker. And at least in the case of Spain, many FAIistas have keft or been kicked out of the CNT-R so the organuzation cannot support it, akthough there are some folks there that do as IFA has many tendencies.

MALATESTA, I don't know if you are aware but this whole stuff is the outcome of some years of attempts to split the IWA and also to move it towards attemots to merge with organizations which diverge from more specifically anarchist positions. So no, this is something which is making the anarchist position much weaker. And at least in the case of Spain, many FAIistas have keft or been kicked out of the CNT-R so the organuzation cannot support it, akthough there are some folks there that do as IFA has many tendencies.

The North American IWW's 2017 Convention (which is based on mandated delegates from its branches) voted to send people. I think there were some broad guidelines on what those people are supposed to bring to this but I can't remember. The other Regional Administration of the IWW, based in the UK, is also participating in some capacity.

There are lots of different anarchists - but that's for another post. Anarchists have been known to support strange things, so I don't care about these labels. As for what is reactionary or not, I reserve the right to see things in the opposite way to the guys here with strange fantasy game names.

What is a pity is that your way of dealing with your problems with your comrades, until you make real enemies, in order to avoid smelling you own shit. Luckily I figured things out sooner rather than later so I don't waste my efforts. As I said, my assessment is very different and I'm not likely to be tricked by bullshit. In any case, time will tell all.

Think IWW WISERA are sending observers only, and look forward to seeing how it goes. It could be really positive for the organisations involved and lead to much more practical co-ordination across borders. I also hope different syndicalists can move away from bashing each other. I get there have been real historical fights but we need to move on and focus on organising.

What is WISERA??

Its the IWW Regional Administration based in the UK, but it also includes the German IWW.

Haha, yeah it stands for Wales, Ireland, Scotland and England Regional Administration. Folk wanted an alternative to Britain & Ireland.

Pretty sure Germany is now in a different RA, though.

The OP is a newer and young comrade. Please approach informatively and "gently".

I didn't think I was being rough here - just saying. That's why I said "I don't know if you are aware" because it sounded like someone who didn't know this story.

It was said in general, to anyone who wants to reply. While I don't agree with the OP, just wanted to share they're still developing/learning

Yeah it's the UK & Ireland IWW, formerly ERA, formerly BIRA, formerly BIROC, etc. etc.

God knows what we'll be called after the next annual conference lol.

As for developing/learning folks, I totally get it. The problem on the internet is that you don't always get any sense of who you are communicating with. Although I appreciate that internet gives us some opportunities, it also has many faults.

But for developing/learning folks, without any wish to discourage anybody, one thing that should be learned upfront is that historically, both anarchism and syndicalism and anarchosyndicalism as embracing a variety of approaches, some of which do not always co-exist. Perhaps sometimes they can, but that takes a certain level of respect for others which has not been the case here. The most important thing in all this to learn is that movements are not necessarily made by throwing everything together, but by careful assessment of the situation around you and finding ways to start real activity. Then going on consistently.

The poster asks to be shown why he is wrong. While he may not be wrong as such, because obviously it would be better if people could cooperate better, he may not understand all the issues which make this unlikely to happen.

Example: there are two FAI members that are in favor of the new international and are working in this way in CNT, that 2 years a go were General Secretaries of their regionals. Also nearly all the anarchist that were in the anarchist groups of action in the 80's that were imprisoned and now a dais are in CNT working in the same way. Only one person I know that is not, now is in the spanish IWA section, after putting a building buy with CNT money in his name, expelling from his union all the young anarchist of his local union because they asked for the account book of the union (the union never had it) etc.
Also there are ex IFA members in CNT in responsibility positions.

So your position doesn't have so much sense. Please, focus in your organization and stop to say bullshits about other organizations.

Some good stuff from the Google Translation of the interview with CNT's Secretary of Foreign Affairs melenas posted above.

^^^^^ Candidly, there didn't need to be a split to provide for this.

Comrade, aren't you substituting the idea of the IWA for a/syndicalist internationalism? I think the facts speak for themselves: a long-running acrimonious internal dispute (that benefited nobody), 90+% of the IWA taking the position that the international structures couldn't function, the lack of coordination with non-IWA revolutionary syndicalist organisations across the world. Why do an organisation's initials matter so much?

We'll see how far the new international does in living up to the aims described above. But they're achievable with good will and participation. And this sort of thing needs to happen if we're to live up to our ideas!