Haringey refuse collectors on indefinite strike -- picket

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Haringey refuse collectors on indefinite strike -- picket

http://www.tgwu.org.uk/Templates/RegionNews.asp?Action=Display&NodeID=92704

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A long-running dispute over cuts to the refuse collection service in the London Borough of Haringey boiled over into indefinite strike action today.

Workers rejected an offer of £1,450 each to accept taking two refuse collection vehicles off the road. The Transport and General Workers Union confirmed this morning that no refuse collection vehicles had gone out as a result of the forty eight Haringey Accord workers' strike over safety.

Picket at Ashley Road depot.

Very rare to see a group of workers taking indefinite strike action nowadays -- and they voted unanimously for it, too.

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Aug 1 2006 10:28
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Picket at Ashley Road depot.

Very rare to see a group of workers taking indefinite strike action nowadays -- and they voted unanimously for it, too.

Shit that is rare. Hackney went on one or two 24-hr strikes a few months ago, don't know the result...

Will the pickets just be in the mornings?

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Aug 1 2006 10:34

No idea. There's contact details at the bottom though. Might be worth speaking to the press officer for libcom newswire purposes.

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Aug 1 2006 10:45

Picket here

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Aug 1 2006 12:09

time for class struggle anarchists in london to express their politics beyond the internet, no?

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Aug 1 2006 12:13
coffeemachine wrote:
time for class struggle anarchists in london to express their politics beyond the internet, no?

Could happen. wink

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Aug 1 2006 12:16

careful now

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careful now

You bastard! I've been looking for that picture since the dawn of the internet. cry

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Aug 1 2006 12:23

grin

i just google-imaged 'father ted down with this sort of thing'

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Aug 1 2006 12:37
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coffeemachine wrote:
time for class struggle anarchists in london to express their politics beyond the internet, no?

Yes, I'm sure those of us in the refuse collection business will be manning the picket lines.

you're a worker, you can't support other workers in struggle? Solidarity is just a word to share across bulletin boards?

For those interested profits for accord plc were up from £5m (in 2003) to £6.1m in 2004 (don't seem to have 2005 figures).

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Aug 1 2006 13:02
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I'm splitting this pre-emptively.

This is an important issue, and I'm not under any circumstances allowing the thread to turn into a chance for some politicos who have a problem with libcom group to derail it.

...If I can work out how to split on the new forums. embarrassed

We can't split threads any more. If "coffeemachine" (why don't you use your real name, by the way? you aren't fooling anyone) continues to derail it with petty strawman snipes they will be deleted. Forum software being the way it is at the moment this is how we are going to have to deal with off-topic trolling.

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Aug 1 2006 13:10
coffeemachine wrote:
you're a worker, you can't support other workers in struggle? Solidarity is just a word to share across bulletin boards?

For those interested profits for accord plc were up from £5m (in 2003) to £6.1m in 2004 (don't seem to have 2005 figures).

The first post may have been a bit snide, but I think this one asks a reasonable question -- although maybe more one for Thought than Organise.

Unless this is someone you two had a row with in 2002, or something. wink

Edited to add: And as I recall, threads about the nature & extent of solidarity always turn into 15-page slanging matches. grin

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Aug 1 2006 13:10

agreed important issue. Doubtless people will be putting their experiences and resources to good use supporting the strike.

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Aug 1 2006 13:40

What is the conflict about here? Surely Jack doesn't feel he can't go down to the picket line cos he's not a dustmen?

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Aug 1 2006 15:19

Hi

I am interested in ensuring a win...

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Workers rejected an offer of £1,450 each to accept taking two refuse collection vehicles off the road. The Transport and General Workers Union confirmed this morning that no refuse collection vehicles had gone out as a result of the forty eight Haringey Accord workers' strike over safety.

Excellent. What is it they would like instead?

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Aug 1 2006 15:23

Hi

Is it cheaper to take two vehicles off the road than to pay everyone £1450? Why is the employer making this proposal?

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Aug 1 2006 15:35

i was working this morning, but i shall indeavour to visit the picketline tomorrow morning and get a report from the workers

post what questions you'd like me to ask them here

red n black star

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Aug 1 2006 16:43

i might ask them what their position on no borders is

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Aug 1 2006 16:50

Today is bin day, last time they missed a collection my neighbours covered their entire driveway with rubbish and so did all the flats.
I might try to get along to the picket though.

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Aug 1 2006 16:54
Jack wrote:

Seriously tho, could you knock up a quick interview, why they're striking, what they want, how they agreed to indefinate action etc. etc. for the site?

i'll do what i can, post it on here then one of you can put it on the news section or whatever it is you do

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Aug 1 2006 17:50

didn't get to this picket. But all the cleaners and porters down at my local hospital were on strike today as well - went in to accident and emergency with a fucking big lump of crap in my eye almost unable to see, and then on the way out saw a picket of about 30 people on either side of the entrance and had a nice chat with them. Been out since Friday, full turn out, no-one crossing (well, no cleaners and porters who are members of Unison and employed by Rentokil crossing anyway), everyone on the picket for their shift from 6am to 6pm every day, back again tomorrow.

Trying to get close to a 20% pay raise (from c.£5 - c.£6/hour plus extra £54 london weighting - that might be wrong - I'm typing with one eye shut and leaflet they gave me looked a bit blurry when I read it) in line with every other London hospital. They don't think they'll get any of it but were pretty upbeat anyway.

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Aug 1 2006 17:55

Hi

I see Haringey Accord are daft enough to put the email addresses of their senior staff on their web site...

http://www.haringeyaccord.com/stub.asp?SectionID=25

If would terrible if they started spamming people with porn, or even to be accidently signed up to something nasty by a nefarious so-and-so. I can't imagine who would try such a thing.

Enjoy.

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If would terrible if they started spamming people with porn, or even to be accidently signed up to something nasty by a nefarious so-and-so. I can't imagine who would try such a thing.

Enjoy.

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LR

It would also be terrible if anyone with a dial-up connection put one of their phone numbers in as their ISP provider, set their 'puter to check their e-mails every 20 minutes, and then went to bed. Imagine -- coming to work to 200 voice mail messages of handshake noise. Poor bosses. sad

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Aug 2 2006 08:53

hehe very nice folks cool

i'm going down as official dude from london IWW on friday morning. i'll be at tottenham hale tube at 9am if anyone fancies it.

you don't have to be a member of the IWW to come with me, but if you value your kneecaps i'd recommend it black bloc wink

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Is it cheaper to take two vehicles off the road than to pay everyone £1450?

in the long term, it probably makes sense, if you think of road tax, maintenance, fuel, etc.

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Aug 2 2006 09:12
ftony wrote:
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Is it cheaper to take two vehicles off the road than to pay everyone £1450?

in the long term, it probably makes sense, if you think of road tax, maintenance, fuel, etc.

Wouldn't the vehicles be shorthand for "workers"?

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Aug 2 2006 09:53

good point, didn't think of that

john= beardiest

PS people aren't making enough use of the smilies at the bottom of the list. shame on you wall

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Aug 2 2006 10:52
ftony wrote:
people aren't making enough use of the smilies at the bottom of the list. shame on you wall

talk to the hand ftony, talk to the hand

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Aug 2 2006 11:21
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Wouldn't the vehicles be shorthand for "workers"?

No, AFAIK I didn't go to the picket embarrassed, what they want is to reduce the amount of vehicles and increase the amount of hours worked by the men. You can also put extra men onto a truck and then increase the speed they are supposed to work at. No one will get fired immediately, but I'd imagine in a year or so they'll probably try to cut the workforce and increase the hours again if they get away with this.

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all the cleaners and porters down at my local hospital were on strike today as well - went in to accident and emergency with a fucking big lump of crap in my eye almost unable to see, and then on the way out saw a picket of about 30 people on either side of the entrance and had a nice chat with them. Been out since Friday, full turn out, no-one crossing (well, no cleaners and porters who are members of Unison and employed by Rentokil crossing anyway), everyone on the picket for their shift from 6am to 6pm every day, back again tomorrow.

Trying to get close to a 20% pay raise (from c.£5 - c.£6/hour plus extra £54 london weighting - that might be wrong - I'm typing with one eye shut and leaflet they gave me looked a bit blurry when I read it) in line with every other London hospital. They don't think they'll get any of it but were pretty upbeat anyway.

hey, libcom, what hospital is that?

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Aug 2 2006 11:39

Whipps Cross I think, you can get a W15/97 there from Walthamstow Central iirc.