I've yet to be given a concise defition of councilism despite spending a decent amount of time looking for one. What are some good essays or books explaining it, or, rather, would one of you mind explaining? Thank you!!!
'Councilism' ? well that's a fixation with the form of 'Councils' as a democratic alternative to Parliamentary and representative democracy or simply 'Councils' without the 'Communism'.
Council Communism -> Councilism really only started existing as a tendency outside of the Dutch / German Communist Left once groups like the Groups of Internationalist Communists of Holland with their journal Ratekorrespondenz and Groups of Council Communists USA with International Council Correspondence. I'd suggest looking more at that material in the library.
I would define "councilism" as the idea that the workers' councils are sufficient to make the revolution and that minority organisations based on a communist political platform are either unnecessary or a definite obstacle to the revolution.
ICC publications sometimes make a distinction between 'Council Communism', which emerged from the German and Dutch left in the 20s, and which contained currents that were not by definition hostile to political organisations and even to the idea of a communist political party, and 'councilism', a product of the degeneration of this tendency under the impact of defeat and counter-revolution.
because council communism was a specific tendency that developed in the 20s and it does not mean the workers have formed councils, although it was undoubtedly influenced by workers forming councils.
Soviet communism is not an equivalent term either
radicalgraffiti is right - Council Communism was a political tendency which developed a theoretical understanding of the significance of the emergence of the soviet/council form after 1905 and again in 1917-20. The latter was a product of the class movement in general.
Yes i have and you said the councils shouldnt be formed by the workers. So i ask who should, and i assume you dont know this since you dodge the question.
Well you can just say you dont know the answer if you dont know it.
Yes i have and you said the councils shouldnt be formed by the workers. So i ask who should, and i assume you dont know this since you dodge the question.
Sit back, relax, and let the
Sit back, relax, and let the geist take care of it!
Calling Entdinlichgung and
Calling Entdinlichgung and Jura for pithy explanations.
Pennoid, that pun was so bad I almost spat out my coffee laughing.
'Councilism' ? well that's a
'Councilism' ? well that's a fixation with the form of 'Councils' as a democratic alternative to Parliamentary and representative democracy or simply 'Councils' without the 'Communism'.
This is a short intro which
This is a short intro which may be helpful: https://libcom.org/thought/council-communism-an-introduction
Council Communism ->
Council Communism -> Councilism really only started existing as a tendency outside of the Dutch / German Communist Left once groups like the Groups of Internationalist Communists of Holland with their journal Ratekorrespondenz and Groups of Council Communists USA with International Council Correspondence. I'd suggest looking more at that material in the library.
I would define "councilism"
I would define "councilism" as the idea that the workers' councils are sufficient to make the revolution and that minority organisations based on a communist political platform are either unnecessary or a definite obstacle to the revolution.
ICC publications sometimes make a distinction between 'Council Communism', which emerged from the German and Dutch left in the 20s, and which contained currents that were not by definition hostile to political organisations and even to the idea of a communist political party, and 'councilism', a product of the degeneration of this tendency under the impact of defeat and counter-revolution.
Why are you saying that
Why are you saying that council/soviet communism was developed in the 1920'ies when there already was soviets in 1905 in Russia?
because council communism was
because council communism was a specific tendency that developed in the 20s and it does not mean the workers have formed councils, although it was undoubtedly influenced by workers forming councils.
Soviet communism is not an equivalent term either
radicalgraffiti
radicalgraffiti
Who should form the councils then? The capitalists?
have you read nothing on this
have you read nothing on this thread?
radicalgraffiti is right -
radicalgraffiti is right - Council Communism was a political tendency which developed a theoretical understanding of the significance of the emergence of the soviet/council form after 1905 and again in 1917-20. The latter was a product of the class movement in general.
radicalgraffiti wrote: have
radicalgraffiti
Yes i have and you said the councils shouldnt be formed by the workers. So i ask who should, and i assume you dont know this since you dodge the question.
Well you can just say you dont know the answer if you dont know it.
Gulai Polye
Gulai Polye
no i didn't, read it again
Recruitment and huge tracts
Recruitment and huge tracts of writing to answer the simplest question.
That's not a criticism btw, just an observation.