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mel
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Mar 19 2008 13:16
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thats the whole point - criticise zionism, and in their eyes you are criticising ALL JEWS[

i don't think it follows from that that jews = zionism.

if you criticize A in any criticism of B, i don't think it means that A = B. sure it makes alot of sense to suppose that A = B, but identity is a pretty strong relation and this is religion [i.e. bonkers] we are talking about.

and that more or less sums up my feelings on the anti-deutsch.

EDIT maybe zionism has nothing to do with religion i assume that it did.

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Mar 19 2008 13:37

Tacks didn't say that Lem. Jews do not equal zionism, but zionists often conflate criticism of zionism with jews in general to label you an anti-semite. So zionists are often the ones that posits zionist=jew. This is obviously stupid.

I still have a really hard time figuring out what you're trying to convey Lem. And it's not because you don't think/write in a linear fashion, I think you just need to spend more time writing your posts. I am sure they make perfect sense for you, but having a Lem only language makes it hard for everyone else to understand.

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Mar 19 2008 13:43

yeah i did know that tacks wasn't saying that jews = zionism. i was asking whether if someone believes

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criticise zionism, and... you are criticising ALL JEWS

it follows that they believe that jews = zionism.

my opinion is not very important tho, sorry.

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Feb 12 2010 18:24

My german is not quite what it used to be, so I haven't fully read the massive amount of text in this article ( http://www.schattenblick.de/infopool/politik/report/prber025.html ), but it seems a demonstration hosted by a coalition of leftist and christian-democrats (!!) pro-zionists tried to shut down the leftist cinema B-movie in Hamburg a while back for showing a film about Israel (made by some Jewish leftist, i think). Not that anti-imps are the sexiest people on the planet, but isn't that totally fucked up, or did i misunderstand something?

Are there any sensible Germans out there who'd care to enlighten us what the hell is going on? Is it a respons to the IL move to get total hegemony within the antifa-movement through the Dresden Nazifrei mobilisation, are Plan B total pro-taliban über-anti-imps that deserve it, or is this just totally mad. My money is on the last option, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

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Feb 12 2010 22:09

It's the opposite; there were anti-imps trying to shut down a film by a Lanzmann called 'Why Israel' for what they considered its all too pro-zionist message.

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Feb 13 2010 17:55

Aah, ok. But there pictures show a pro-israel demo outside some kind of venue with red and palestinian flags - whats the deal with that? Are things particullary tense between pro-zionists and anti-imps in Hamburg, or is this (demos withing the left against each other) normal for bigger German cities?

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Feb 13 2010 19:08

No, it seems things are a bit tense in Hamburg. The FAU local there is apparently a bit soft on anti german ideas if not even supporting them, maybe some of the german posters can throw some light on the subject.

http://syndikalismus.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/mal-wieder-ein-einblick-hinter-die-ver-di-gewerkschafts-kulissen-vor-geld-nicht-laufen-konnen-aber-bei-%E2%80%9Eeigenen-angestellten%E2%80%9C-einsparen/

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Mar 7 2011 11:59

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Feb 13 2011 21:14

47Strnr: you do realize that this discussion ended a year ago?

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Feb 13 2011 21:20
Khawaga wrote:
47Strnr: you do realize that this discussion ended a year ago?

damn, i just read "13th of February" : |

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Feb 14 2011 07:31
47Strnr wrote:
Khawaga wrote:
47Strnr: you do realize that this discussion ended a year ago?

damn, i just read "13th of February" : |

Honest mistake! tongue

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Feb 14 2011 18:34

It happens... just wanted to point that out to you in case you were expecting replies If you're up for discussing the anti-Deutsche I suggest you start a new thread.

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Feb 15 2011 15:45

Any new thread on the Anti-Germans doesn't belong in the "theory" forum, but rather in "history". tongue

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Feb 15 2011 15:51
Angelus Novus wrote:
Any new thread on the Anti-Germans doesn't belong in the "theory" forum, but rather in "history". tongue

or libcommunity?

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May 3 2018 08:22

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