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Feb 8 2008 12:13
Angelus Novus wrote:
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You're talking shit mate.

You, on the other hand, have absolutely nothing to say, yet you still won't shut up!

i'll say this much:

you are a racist idiot, i hope you soon receive the sort of reception you'd get in england with your dangerous nonsense.

Go home and die.

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Feb 8 2008 14:09
Tacks wrote:
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You're talking shit mate.

You, on the other hand, have absolutely nothing to say, yet you still won't shut up!

i'll say this much:

you are a racist idiot, i hope you soon receive the sort of reception you'd get in england with your dangerous nonsense.

Go home and die.

What?

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Feb 8 2008 14:20

jews=zionism

is

racism

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Feb 8 2008 14:35
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jews=zionism

is

racism

Who argued that all Jews were Zionists?

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Feb 8 2008 14:42

anti-germans you fucking numpty!!!

thats the whole point - criticise zionism, and in their eyes you are criticising ALL JEWS and are an anti-jewish racist.

Funking bananas i know, but that's the crux of it.

Whilst the jerries aren't exactly a race, their suppositon that they are somehow essentially evil and can never be anything but, is pretty racist too.

anti-germans are sad, divisive idiots. As i said, the uk has as shit a political scene as they come, but at least they couldn't pull this kind of thing here.

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Feb 8 2008 16:23

...but Angelus Novus isn't an anti-German.

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Feb 8 2008 16:43
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you are a racist idiot, i hope you soon receive the sort of reception you'd get in england with your dangerous nonsense.

Go home and die.

Maybe you should re-read that post Devrim made about youth gangs.

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Feb 8 2008 17:40

Maybe you should see which bathroom bleach you prefer the flavour of.

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Feb 9 2008 21:27
yoshomon wrote:
...but Angelus Novus isn't an anti-German.

Tacks has severe reading comprehension problems.

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Mar 7 2008 14:25

Antinationalist Nationalism - The Anti-German Critique and Its All-Too-German Adherents:

http://www.crimethinc.com/texts/rollingthunder/antinationalist.php

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Mar 11 2008 10:16

so far liking that...

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Mar 11 2008 10:22

yep. Good info in that. Fair play to the primmo.

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Mar 15 2008 16:12

very good article.

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Mar 15 2008 17:14
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thats the whole point - criticise zionism, and in their eyes you are criticising ALL JEWS and are an anti-jewish racist.

is it?

and is it racist?

and is it really jews = zionism? i think it says that all jews stand in some relation to zionism; it seems almost mystical rather than actually racist.

not that i care i just hate tacks when he's like this tongue

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Mar 19 2008 11:28
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thats the whole point - criticise zionism, and in their eyes you are criticising ALL JEWS and are an anti-jewish racist.

is it?

and is it racist?

and is it really jews = zionism? i think it says that all jews stand in some relation to zionism; it seems almost mystical rather than actually racist.

i don't really know what your asking there... If you are asking if this is the case, then yes, it is.

In my experience of the comparatively tame zionist movment in the UK, abti-semitic is the first thing they call you. A zionist mature student beat up a SSWP kiddy for putting up palestine stickers at my university; he pre-empted his arrest by going to the police FIRST and claiming he was being racially harassed by the trot.

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not that i care i just hate tacks when he's like this tongue

are you a returning poster of s different name?

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Mar 19 2008 11:30

Ant-Deutsche thinking has penetrated all levels of german politics - well done guys, Merkel is on board

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/19/germany.secondworldwar

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Mar 19 2008 11:52
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are you a returning poster of s different name?

mel = lem

and s/he's come back here under other nicks as well as far as I can tell.

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Mar 19 2008 13:16
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thats the whole point - criticise zionism, and in their eyes you are criticising ALL JEWS[

i don't think it follows from that that jews = zionism.

if you criticize A in any criticism of B, i don't think it means that A = B. sure it makes alot of sense to suppose that A = B, but identity is a pretty strong relation and this is religion [i.e. bonkers] we are talking about.

and that more or less sums up my feelings on the anti-deutsch.

EDIT maybe zionism has nothing to do with religion i assume that it did.

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Mar 19 2008 13:37

Tacks didn't say that Lem. Jews do not equal zionism, but zionists often conflate criticism of zionism with jews in general to label you an anti-semite. So zionists are often the ones that posits zionist=jew. This is obviously stupid.

I still have a really hard time figuring out what you're trying to convey Lem. And it's not because you don't think/write in a linear fashion, I think you just need to spend more time writing your posts. I am sure they make perfect sense for you, but having a Lem only language makes it hard for everyone else to understand.

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Mar 19 2008 13:43

yeah i did know that tacks wasn't saying that jews = zionism. i was asking whether if someone believes

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criticise zionism, and... you are criticising ALL JEWS

it follows that they believe that jews = zionism.

my opinion is not very important tho, sorry.

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Feb 12 2010 18:24

My german is not quite what it used to be, so I haven't fully read the massive amount of text in this article ( http://www.schattenblick.de/infopool/politik/report/prber025.html ), but it seems a demonstration hosted by a coalition of leftist and christian-democrats (!!) pro-zionists tried to shut down the leftist cinema B-movie in Hamburg a while back for showing a film about Israel (made by some Jewish leftist, i think). Not that anti-imps are the sexiest people on the planet, but isn't that totally fucked up, or did i misunderstand something?

Are there any sensible Germans out there who'd care to enlighten us what the hell is going on? Is it a respons to the IL move to get total hegemony within the antifa-movement through the Dresden Nazifrei mobilisation, are Plan B total pro-taliban über-anti-imps that deserve it, or is this just totally mad. My money is on the last option, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

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Feb 12 2010 22:09

It's the opposite; there were anti-imps trying to shut down a film by a Lanzmann called 'Why Israel' for what they considered its all too pro-zionist message.

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Feb 13 2010 17:55

Aah, ok. But there pictures show a pro-israel demo outside some kind of venue with red and palestinian flags - whats the deal with that? Are things particullary tense between pro-zionists and anti-imps in Hamburg, or is this (demos withing the left against each other) normal for bigger German cities?

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Feb 13 2010 19:08

No, it seems things are a bit tense in Hamburg. The FAU local there is apparently a bit soft on anti german ideas if not even supporting them, maybe some of the german posters can throw some light on the subject.

http://syndikalismus.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/mal-wieder-ein-einblick-hinter-die-ver-di-gewerkschafts-kulissen-vor-geld-nicht-laufen-konnen-aber-bei-%E2%80%9Eeigenen-angestellten%E2%80%9C-einsparen/

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Mar 7 2011 11:59

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Feb 13 2011 21:14

47Strnr: you do realize that this discussion ended a year ago?

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Feb 13 2011 21:20
Khawaga wrote:
47Strnr: you do realize that this discussion ended a year ago?

damn, i just read "13th of February" : |

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Feb 14 2011 07:31
47Strnr wrote:
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47Strnr: you do realize that this discussion ended a year ago?

damn, i just read "13th of February" : |

Honest mistake! tongue

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Feb 14 2011 18:34

It happens... just wanted to point that out to you in case you were expecting replies If you're up for discussing the anti-Deutsche I suggest you start a new thread.

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Feb 15 2011 15:45

Any new thread on the Anti-Germans doesn't belong in the "theory" forum, but rather in "history". tongue