Right libertarians debunked market in state memberships own logic

Submitted by DanArcher on September 24, 2026

Essentially whether *you* allow a State to “hold a gun to your head” is your personal choice.

Payment of taxes for state services is entirely voluntary in the UK and most other states: all you have to do is TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and live in another State.

If you don’t like the price that the UK State asks you to pay for its services, get out of the UK and buy services from a State that offers you a better bargain you are willing to take. Shop around! There is a market in State membership.

Just as it is like with condo management: you don’t like yearly fees for the condo? Shop around and buy an apartment in another condo. If you *choose* to stay in that condo but you refuse to pay the yearly fees, you are STEALING THEIR PROPERTY.

Living in a first-world state and paying whichever level of taxes are agreed for its services is purely a VOLUNTARY BARGAIN OF MUTUAL ADVANTAGE, with NO COERCION whatsoever, because you can leave that State anytime you want, respecting any contractual exit clauses, just like in any voluntary bargain of mutual advantage, just like you can leave that condo.

A State only can only “force you to pay for its services” by “hold[ing] a gun to your head” when you try to leave. If they are not holding a gun to your head to prevent you from leaving, then staying is a voluntary bargain of mutual advantage. It may be not one you like, but it is still voluntary you may feel paid too little by working at McDonalds as a server, but it is still a voluntary choice.

If you can leave a State and thus refuse to buy the services it offers, there is simply no coercion.

Just like nobody forces you to shop at Tesco or work for McDonalds: if you don’t like the voluntary bargain of mutual advantage that you are offered by them just TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and leave their premises without buying or selling anything.

From a libertarian perspective only moochers and looters eefuse to TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and instead of walking away from bargains that don’t suit them and instead blamethe party who offered them a bargain that they can quite easily reject by leaving the vendor’s premises and going to make a voluntary bargain in another one.

Put another shorter way…

Well, moochers and looters don’t want to pay for services, and forcing them to pay for services they buy is anybody’s right, to prevent moochers and looters from stealing other people’s property.

What the State does not do in the UK and many countries is to force you to *buy* their services.

If you do not want to buy and pay for UK services, shop around and buy citizenship from another State. If you don’t want to buy from the UK State shop, close down your account them, pay any contractual early termination fees, and open a citizenship account somewhere else.

Just take personal responsibility for living in the State that gives you the best bargain that you can afford.

So the jackbooted thugs of UK property owners held a gun to your parents for all 18 years of your minority to force them to reside in the UK with you, imposing on them residence in the UK without their consent?

Not only were your parents forced to reside in the UK but the same jackbooted enforcers of the UK property owners put a gun to your head on your 18th birthday to force you to be a resident in the UK and you were made to use the services of the UK like courts, police, army protection, roads, etc. without your consent?

Your parents and you absolutely refused to buy the residence product being sold by the UK, but you were both forced to buy it, gun to your head, for decades?

That sounds monstrous…