Anarcho Agony Aunts

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Jul 1 2019 06:33
Anarcho Agony Aunts

I know libcom is very slow right now, but I am not quite sure why it is being spammed by these anarcho agony aunts.

Would it be better to let them do one page per show rather than 7. It is swamping the recent feed.
They would just need to put all the links and questions on one page rather than drag it out over 7.

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Jul 1 2019 09:05

Nearly everything on the 1st 2 pages of thread index is their stuff. It does seem excessive.

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Jul 1 2019 09:54

Is that not just the same effect you get whenever anyone uploads a big collection of anything? I'm sure I can remember the tracker being similarly swamped by Fighting Talk, SPGB stuff and so in the past.

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Jul 1 2019 11:02

Yup, it's the result of uploading a big collection, though Jef's suggestion is good. It does seem excessive to use multiple pages for what can be collected in one.

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Jul 1 2019 12:39

I have myself flooded recent posts (with "Fighting Talk" stuff and other things) and do appreciate it's a bit annoying if the uploads are not of interest to someone.

With Anarcho Agony Aunts I agree that it might be better if it was one entry per episode though, because:

1. It is slighty niche / subcultural.

I do support what they are doing and think it is much needed and a good example of sex positive anarcho feminism in action.

But I'd struggle to argue that it is all directly political. The critique of the alt-right definitely is. Not sure about the rest.

2. There are other ways of doing it.

Like maybe one video of each episode with text indicating the contents a rough timings would work?

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Jul 1 2019 12:52
Fozzie wrote:
2. There are other ways of doing it.

Like maybe one video of each episode with text indicating the contents a rough timings would work?

Exactly, as things stand each episode is posted as a single 50 minute video, as well as 6 pages, each linking to one section of the video with the question listed.

I think we should unpublish the sections and let them put in the links to individual sections if they want.

It's a big difference to publishing chapters of a book or issues of a magazine.

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Jul 1 2019 14:49

Saying they're spamming the site is really shitty and there's no way the CMS is being slow because it's got 30 extra nodes in it or whatever it is. As has been pointed out by others the tracker is always going to be contain new content when things are added in bulk. Sure there may be a better way of presenting the content (like changing the width and height of the embedded videos) but starting a thread like this is not cool.

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Jul 1 2019 15:45

I agree that it's not spam.

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Jul 1 2019 15:54

I meant slow in terms of content.

I think posting a video then creating 6 separate pages linking to 6 sections of the video is creating an unnecessary amount of pages on libcom for no extra benefit. Like I said, would make more sense to put the links to the sections of each video on the same page as the video.

I don't see what is so bad about pointing this out, and also offering a solution.

If this thread is so not cool, then just unpublish it dude. cool

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Jul 1 2019 17:30

Hi, we've done it in the same method as 12 Rules For What i.e. one library w/ archive from which people can choose videos that are of interest to them.
http://libcom.org/library/12-rules-what-podcast

Happy to remove Full Videos though as they don't necessarily present a theme in them.

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Jul 1 2019 21:41

Hi Qwoke and a belated welcome to Libcom if nobody else said that yet. smile

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Jul 1 2019 22:53

Welcome Qwoke!

To OP: The "spamming" of the tracker is nothing new It's been going on for the 10 years I've been on libcom. Strange to be annoyed by it now. The suggestions to have a new "standard" for uploads might make sense though.

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Jul 2 2019 08:52

Yeah, thinking about it I really can't see the logic of objecting to the separate pages for different sections - fair enough if people just really dislike something and don't think it should be in the library at all, but if it is there then it's good to have different sections available.
There's not much motivation for people to click on something with a really generic title like "Solidarity Issue 63, October 1967" or "AAA Episode 4", but if specific pieces are available as "A history of worker's autonomy at the Barnstable Widget Works" or "Top tips for doing bdsm with a wobbly academic" or whatever then people are more likely to go "oh, I'm interested in that topic" and click on it, surely?

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Jul 2 2019 08:57
R Totale wrote:
Yeah, thinking about it I really can't see the logic of objecting to the separate pages for different sections - fair enough if people just really dislike something and don't think it should be in the library at all, but if it is there then it's good to have different sections available.
There's not much motivation for people to click on something with a really generic title like "Solidarity Issue 63, October 1967" or "AAA Episode 4", but if specific pieces are available as "A history of worker's autonomy at the Barnstable Widget Works" or "Top tips for doing bdsm with a wobbly academic" or whatever then people are more likely to go "oh, I'm interested in that topic" and click on it, surely?

Exactly.

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Jul 2 2019 12:32

I have now deleted the Full Videos, only left the ones with the themes, thanks for pointing it out!

Jef, you're clearly not a fan of the project, having commented under some of our work / articles on us quite odd stuff, but I think we could have resolved the removal of Full Videos without such a thread, where you're clearly just trying to pick on us.
Shame! Not a great welcome.

Thanks to the kind words of others. The sort of intimate questions we receive and the feedback of it being useful etc really encourages us on the importance of such a project. Thanks for LibCom's support in that pursuit! <3

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Jul 2 2019 21:31
Qwoke wrote:
Jef, you're clearly not a fan of the project, having commented under some of our work / articles on us quite odd stuff, but I think we could have resolved the removal of Full Videos without such a thread, where you're clearly just trying to pick on us.
Shame! Not a great welcome.

How else was I supposed to make the suggestion other than a thread?

If you think I'm picking on you then that is a shame, but I explained why I thought it would be better done differently and those were my reasons.

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Jul 2 2019 22:51

A couple more quick thing about titles:

1) You're going to want to change the episode numbering to E01, E02 (rather than E1, E2, etc as it is now). This is coz once you get to double figures it'll order it as E1 then E10, E11 etc

2) In the interests of keeping titles concise/tidy, rather than writing "part 1", could you write ".1". So a potential title would be "E01.1: [INSERT TITLE HERE]". Does that make sense?

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Jul 10 2019 21:59

Done that now Ed, thanks!
Apols for the flood again, but again, the system is kinda flawed if one edit calls for all that:<

Love and rage!

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