Libertarian communalism and self-government in Syria

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meerov21
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Sep 7 2017 01:57
Libertarian communalism and self-government in Syria

We’ve published this interview called “Libertarian communalism and self-government in Syria” made by an internationalist comrade who prefered remains anonymous, but encouraging to extend the debate about the Syrian revolution along the world. The main questions treats on cultural and political relations (and too the radical differences) between the Arab autonomous councils that have been formed since the revolution start on 2011, the Kurdish parties organizative forces and the connotation of try hegemonize the Middle East conflicts of imperialist countries, in a way to understand all advances and gains of this armed process for a better life for the most important subject in this scenario: the communities & people.

– Hello, Fatima! Please tell us about the local self-government the Arabs and Kurds in Syria.

Hi, comrade! I think on the local level, through the communes, there is some local autonomy and self-organization at least to make very local level decisions. But in general what has happened, majority structures and decision making is very top down, PYD led and controlled (PYD is Kurdish party supporters of Abdullah Öcalan, the Syrian branch of PKK). I think the question is how to support more radical elements and the energy that has been unleashed now with Kurdish youth and not support PYD project. The Arab project has been much more bottom up. It is not party led, but brings together people from different backgrounds for practical buisness of self-organizing communities. In this way I find it more progressive. But there are also big challenges, still there is limited participation of women in council positions. They are also under much more challenges, attacks by regime -jihadists- lack of visibility or support.

– Are you an anarchist or libertarian socialist?

I would have replied anarchist, but I am getting less and less comfortable with using labels… I think it is european dominant anarchism which has put me off this self-identification too… there is a blindness and an unwillingness to see problems -or understand context- a very romantic vision and those of us that try to raise awarness of PYD authoritarism get slandered as Arab nationalists or jihadi supporters…

– So can you tell me is there ane self-governments in Syria also in shiaa areas like Fua or in Alavite Latackia?

It is not permitted by the regime. In the earlier years of the revolution there was organization of committees, bringing together Alawi and Sunni, etc. activists for protests etc. But self- government would be impossible.

– How powerful are Arab tribes in the Syrian towns? Do they influence self-government? For example, in Palestine Homula (arab tribe) has a great impact on the lives of Arab societies almost everywhere. In Syria is it the same?

Depends. In some areas they are powerful. They often participate in local councils in those areas.

– What do you think happens if Shiaa coalition (Iran+Hizballa+Iraqi Shiaa+Fatimiyuun of hazarians+Asad) win the war in the most part of Syria? Is that like Iran’s occupation?

I think they will win the war and with the help of the West too in the ‘war on terror’. The Arab areas now being destroyed, from without and within, nearly over and Rojava will then be targetted. I think we can already talk of an Iranian/Ru occupation in large parts of the country, the regime is finished, it does not exist, it is completely dependent on outsiders maybe there will be a partition with different groups/powers having control of different areas.

– But I am not sure about Rojava permanence, it could be under USA controll more and more.

Yes, but USA is aligning with regime more and more if there is a partition, maybe there will still be a Rojava but I imagine with more central government control.

– Why do you think so?

I do not believe there was ever a ‘regime change’ plot. Even under Obama, there was a call for Assad to go, but never to dismantle the regime. Like in Yemen. There was a lot of rhetoric about supporting the opposition but in reality it was limited, nothing like what we see for PYD now. The USA was responsible for blocking other countries sending heavy weapons to FSA (Free Syrian Army). Now under Trump there is an increasing consensus (and I think in the west more generally) that Assad should stay in the interests of ‘stability’ and ‘fighting terrorism’. The USA tried to work with FSA to fight ISIS on condition they drop fight against Assad, they didn’t get hardly any groups to sign up, so they go will newly created SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces is a coalition of the Kurdish militia YPG and Arab militias, which is under the control of YPG and PYD).

– I have information that some Arab militias and tribes are fightin together wit SDF today and there are alot of them.

Yes, of course, there are many Arab groups fighting with SDF. For me, I cannot feel positive about SDF, it is operating as a USA proxy force. I think also people make too much of Arab participation in SDF or PYD structures. It’s a political issue here, not ethnic. Many kurds fight with FSA -even Kurds with Daesh- the attack on Kobane was led by Kurd and in the councils in Arab majority mixed communities there has always been participation from other groups (Kurds -like Manbij-, Christians -in Yabrood-, Ishamaili -in Salamiya-, etc.) Also we have to ask about some of the Arab groups in the SDF. Some of them are very pro-Assad. The Manbij military council has 2 Arabs on it that are even members of regime parliament. So I have questions.

But of course, there is also a lot of support for SDF from all different groups, they are fighting Daesh, they are liberating communities from Daesh rule. But I do not think they will be obidient to PYD all the time….

Alliances are quickly formed and dimantled in war, based on necessity and what is most useful at the time. Especially in the North the tribal relations are also very complex and play a big role. I cannot even pretend to understand all of that and the role it plays.

http://rupturacolectiva.com/libertarian-communalism-and-self-government-...

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Sep 7 2017 19:57

Thanks for posting this meerov21, The introduction talks about the "advances and gains of this armed process for a better life". There doesn't seem to be much of that in the excellent report by Fatima. All attempts at self-organisation across ethnicity and religion are, generally, to be welcomed but the overwhelmingly dominant force here is imperialism and what looks like a carve-up by the major imperialist powers.Fatima shows up the complexities of the situation well but these are being manipulated by the USA, Britain, France and its coalition of brigands, as well as their local forces on the ground. I notice that Fatima has little time for the PYD. As an imperialist army it has to be "authoritarian".

The next question facing the major powers is, once Isis is defeated, how to confront the al-Qaida affiliated al-Nusra front, now known as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham. It has many seasoned fighters and in many ways is more entrenched and organised than Isis ever was.

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Sep 8 2017 01:36

baboonThanks for the comment.

You put some very important issues. Nusra is now destroying the Councils in the region and they are fighting against Nusra in Idlib, Sarakibe and other towns in Northern Syria.

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Sep 7 2017 20:52

That's what I think of territorial self-organization
https://libcom.org/forums/theory/revolution-urban-communes-yesterday-tod...

Below I will try to write about Nusra

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Sep 8 2017 01:35

This text is about the conflict Autonomous Councils and Nusra:

There are 160 Autonomous Councils in the region of Idlib active and they are in confrontation with Nusra (Al-Qaeda; Hayat Tachrir al Sham). Arab councils are non-party and self-organized. They are multi-confessional, i.e. they are Sunnis, Ismailis, Christians. This is a huge step forward for Syria. But they are in contact with certain groups of anti-Assad opposition.

Currently Nusra (al-Qaeda) is the main enemy of Autonomous councils in the region. And this is so not only because Nusra destroys these Autonomous councils, as once did the Bolsheviks in 1918-1921. The reason is that the presence of the Nusra has made "politicaly toxic" entire region of Idlib. I fear that the whole region will be wiped off the face of the earth by joint efforts of the great powers.

http://syriadirect.org/news/hts-storms-idlib-city-council-after-its-refu...

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Sep 8 2017 20:07

Once again to say that I thought Fatima's account of the complexities really useful. and she should post again with developments.

I think that there's always hope, there's always some elements at least in a fight back against the forces of imperialism, but I fear that your conclusion of the whole of the Idlib province being devastated is more likely Meerov21. Intelligence reports already point to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians from Mosul and Raqqa. "Scorched Earth" is the policy of the US-led coalition. There's hardly 'advances and gains for a better life'.

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Sep 9 2017 03:28

"Scorched Earth" is the policy of Iran-Asad also and not only USA.

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Sep 10 2017 12:35

You're not to know it Meerov21 but on other posts here and elsewhere my position has been a clear internationalist one denouncing all imperialist forces feeding this war along with the butcher Assad and his Iranian and Russian backers. I also think, by the way, that your assessment of the Bolsheviks between 1918-21 is simplistic - but that's an issue for elsewhere,

The issue here in my opinion is the support or indifference towards an imperialist army that includes forces for Kurdish nationalism being called "revolutionary" or representing advances and gains for a better life.

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Sep 10 2017 18:40

The website that is from, Ruptura Collective, they did have a blog on libcom however we removed it upon learning at one of their members has sexually assaulted several women and the group has taken no action about it.

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Sep 14 2017 03:50

baboon You're not to know it Meerov21 but on other posts here and elsewhere my position has been a clear internationalist one denouncing all imperialist forces feeding this war along with the butcher Assad and his Iranian and Russian backers.

Clear. I just clarified. I think that now the US is doing a major bet on the Kurds.

...I would call what is happening now "the Struggle for the legacy of ISIS", it's the government controlled territory the size of France and a population of 10 million.

The question is, who comes to the place which is left after dying ISIS. Iran to a certain extent, increased his influence not only in Lebanon but also in Syria and Iraq. Giant Persian Empire is formed in the middle East step by step.

Arab states are finished in Levant and Iran become stronge and stronger.

Second factor as Kurdistan.

The Kurds have already created 2 independent States in Syria and Iraq. In Turkey PKK is doing gerilia war. In Iran there are mass protests of Kurds just todey (Bane, Machabad) so PKK wants to break Iran and separated Iranian Kurdistan (Rojhelat).

US and Israel are sympathetic to the Kurds. The Deputy chief of the General staff of the Israeli army, Yair Golan, said "PKK is not a terrorist" and "United Kurdistan is a great idea". It will be a counterweight to the Iranian Empire.

American weapons moves a continuous stream into the hands of the PKK.

This is part of the configuration of the new Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL3j9HFmal8