It looks like I am still ok a bit?
So we have something else as well!
12"In that day I will carry out against Eli all that I have spoken concerning his house, from beginning to end. 13"For I have told him that I am about to judge his house forever for the iniquity which he knew, because his sons brought a curse on themselves and he did not rebuke them.…
http://biblehub.com/1_samuel/3-12.htm
when it came to the justification of slavery in the southern US in the 19th century they used something like this.
Can’t remember exactly what it was; I might try and findd it later.
Probably going to OCR the SPGB library copy of Wietling and get around copyright problems.
As to the oil thing it was probably meant to be symbolic.
In Judaism, the Jewish Messiah "the anointed one"),often referred to as "King Messiah" [7] is expected to descend from King David and accomplish the unification of the twelve tribes[8] into a re-established nation. The Jerusalem Temple's rebuilding will usher in a Messianic Age[9] of global peace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah
I seem to remember from the old testament that the kings of Israel or whatever were anointed with oil as part of the ceremony?
I think it is likely that Judas was given the name Iscariot later from the term Sicarii.
Ie Judas the back stabber etc?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicarii
the sins of the fathers also appears in;
Numbers 14:17
18The LORD is slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, forgiving iniquity and transgression; but He will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generations.'…
http://biblehub.com/numbers/14-17.htm
Deuteronomy 5:9
9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+5:9
I think there is some pull back from that in Ezekiel.
But there is no shortage of contradictions in the old testament.
As to the acts 5 thing; yes that is in my top five of crappy things in the gospel and acts list.
Without wanting to seem to ‘apologise’ for it; it is more interesting that they didn’t or resisted going as far as blaming or crediting God for it which must have been an almost irresistible temptation.
I also don’t want to go so far as saying that some of Roman’s Jesus movement didn’t include people who understood it in the context of a national liberation movement.
As with previous Old Testament tradition.
With the resistance to Hellenisation.
That is the Hellenisation and Greek culture that never existed in Palestine according to Roman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabees
Actually old testament stuff on the afterlife, heaven, hell and Satan compared to Gospel stuff was a bit patchy and non central; although you can find it if you look hard enough.
The general idea was the concerns with earthly here and now materialism suck up to the jealous god and he will reward you or if not shit on you.
Which wasn’t that different a perspective to the ‘Hellenic’ pagan thesis.
The pagan ‘Hellenic’ take on Judaism was understanding.
The Judaic god was just one of many local national deities in the pantheon.
The Jews were thus confused as a result of national chauvinism.
Otherwise they liked and respected as a better literally documented religion than most.
Hence Vespasian picked up on it.
The killer when it comes to dating the gospel material is the prophesy that JC would come back within a generation.
That never happened and even though early Christians were stupid you could say you don’t write down prophesies that never happened.
You write down a prophesy when it was still possible.
There is connected material on that in ‘Peters’ epistle that excludes Peter as the author.
And the addendum to the gospel of John which suggests that it was also without the addendum 1st century.
My take on it is that the original version of the prophesy was about that would happen within a generation of the re-establishment of the Jewish state- the fig tree thing that is still wrapped around it.
That would also be more consistent with orthodox second temple Old Testament stuff.
Or in other words it was re written in the 1st century to keep spirits up.
I must admit I am embarrassed.
You see these Christians banding about there battered well thumbed bibles to demonstrate their faith etc.
Mine is falling to bits.
As is ‘my’ volume III of capital.
I borrowed volume III of capital an volume II, unread of course, from someone in 2003 and the git has moaned to someone else that I kept it and wants it back!
Volume II is still in pristine condition; it is shit.
I have just tipped a glass of wine over the keyboard so am going to send whilst I can.