Persecution and threats against student activist escalate

Bahar Mustafa - Golsmiths Student's Union Welfare & Diversity Officer

A London student union officer has received death threats in a month-long campaign of harassment, after she organised a meeting for minority students.

Bahar Mustafa, 27, is the Welfare & Diversity Officer of Goldsmiths Students’ Union. Ms Mustafa organised a meeting for black and minority ethnic (BME) women and non-binary people, and asked that white people and men did not attend.

A Goldsmiths student, who is understood to have recently been a member of the xenophobic right-wing UKIP party, claimed that this was racist against white men.

The story was spun as ‘white men banned from anti-racism rally’, and subsequently picked up by student paper the Tab, the Evening Standard and Daily Mail, amongst others. Supporters of Bahar refuted the claims in a statement:

This is not, as has been suggested in the press, anti-white bigotry. Nor is it discrimination, in any sense of the word. The event in question is not a job or scholarship from which white people are barred from applying. It is an organising meeting involving just over ten people, convening to feed back into wider organising meetings.

However, the campaign against her subsequently escalated, with attempts to have Ms Mustafa - who is an elected student union officer - ‘sacked’. She has also received death threats, and has been reported to the police.

Following the media coverage, an assortment of Men’s Rights Activists, British fascists, and participants in the misogynist hate campaign gamergate descended on the twitter hashtag #SupportBaharMustafa with a torrent of abuse.

This effort to ban minorities from meeting without white men present is the latest in a wider campaign portraying left-wing and liberation movements as a totalitarian threat to ‘free speech’ on campuses. Former genocide-denying Marxist turned right-wing contrarian Spiked magazine recently published a ‘free speech ranking’ for universities, with red, amber, and green categories.

Supposed ‘threats to free speech’ which landed universities in the red category include bans on on-campus fascist activity, “zero tolerance” policies on sexual harassment, and recognition of transgender people. Sacking of elected officers for speaking freely is not mentioned.

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May 22 2015 12:29

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Georgie89
May 30 2015 16:51
gram negative wrote:
Georgie89 wrote:

It might be that you and SJW's claim to represent everyone but you are an insignificant strain of ideology that has amost zero support anywhere in the world.
Most women do not support feminism or identify as feminist, most people of colour don't support SJW's and their word policing or attempts to have people fired or dictate language and discourse.

Is there a reason you are so sensitive and feel like anyone other than the few thousand privileged university educated well off radical students in the first world agree with you?

You get any man or woman off the street and have this conversation with them and they would be much less receptive to your ideas than me. Most would be banned for using non-pc language, not supporting almost any of your economic or social ideas. Yet you think I am reactionary? Talk to the women who work with me about slut shaming. They would be banned instantly for the way they talk about other women.

But oh yeah they are just brainwashed by the patriarchy, they couldn't of thought those things on their own :

Wow, where do you find the time to talk to most of POC and women to come to that conclusion? All you seem to be focused on is the media - why is that? We can both play the anecdotal game - I know many women and POC workers, some who have went to college and some who haven't, who care about these issues, some who don't - what is your point? My coworkers and I discuss this stuff all the time, and they are complex individuals who escape your attempt to simplify them into the 'average worker', who is a woman and a POC where I live.

That is a really long walk around the statement:

"My politics and those of the general libcom user and almost zero support amongst any segement of the population"

For people with almsot no support you sure do like speaking on behalf of workers, women, people of colour. Workers don't support socialism, as you can see by the size of the feminist movement and membership of feminist groups most women don't in anyway identify as feminist.

So do you wonder why when SJW's try and have someone fired or act cunty to them it might lead to irritation? Do you think the SJW's irritate most people? Let me guess you ahve not counted so can't possibly comment? LOL.

Georgie89
May 30 2015 16:53
kurremkarmerruk wrote:
Are you stupid you little fuck?

1) Despite your own stereotype, there are Kurds in Kurdish movement that are against exploitation and domination of world by humans. Ocalan is very vocal about it. This is political vegetarianism, how this is unrelated to veganism? Are you that stupid?

2) Who is SJW's? Bahar? Be clear or fuck off! Do not change what you say from comment to comment OK? Bahar supports "quality under the law and equal rights" YPJ supports the same thing. moreover both think it is necessary to have an autonomous organizing of women to achieve and defend that! Read somethings stupid I am not your personal translator to kurdish literature which produced a lot of works on it.

3) About "they don't care if you are into it [ideology]" Do not see they just wish you to go there and fight for their side? And you are probably speaking with a kurd who is not guerrilla. Well go discuss these issues with a YPJ commander with a weapon in her hands grin

4) And for your own self, stop thinking that you have a privileged position to reach reality Ok? It is not enough just to watch a few war videos online and speak to a few recruiting Kurds. World is bigger than that unfortunately.

Yours tears taste salty. Your illusions about the YPG shattered. Of course those actual YPG fighters don't know anything about the YPG. hahahaha. Moron.

Chilli Sauce
May 30 2015 17:00
Georgie89 wrote:
gram negative wrote:
also, men use their guns and power to control and kill women in the US all the time, and many don't think that is wrong at all. but i forgot that there are no issues for women in the first world.

what's up with your macho posturing, georgie? why are you so obviously made to feel insecure about this issue?

Men kill men, how are you trying to make that a sexism issue lol. Jesus is there nothing you won't try and manipulate?

Yeah, how could you suggest domestic violence is a "sexism issue"? Sheesh.

kurekmurek
May 30 2015 17:00
Quote:
kurremkarmerruk wrote:
Are you stupid you little fuck?
1) Despite your own stereotype, there are Kurds in Kurdish movement that are against exploitation and domination of world by humans. Ocalan is very vocal about it. This is political vegetarianism, how this is unrelated to veganism? Are you that stupid?

2) Who is SJW's? Bahar? Be clear or fuck off! Do not change what you say from comment to comment OK? Bahar supports "quality under the law and equal rights" YPJ supports the same thing. moreover both think it is necessary to have an autonomous organizing of women to achieve and defend that! Read somethings stupid I am not your personal translator to kurdish literature which produced a lot of works on it.

3) About "they don't care if you are into it [ideology]" Do not see they just wish you to go there and fight for their side? And you are probably speaking with a kurd who is not guerrilla. Well go this these issues with a YPJ commander with a weapon in her hands grin

4) And for your own self, stop thinking that you have a privileged position to reach reality ok if you just watched a few war videos online and speaking to a few recruiting Kurds. World is bigger than that unfortunately.

Yes the people who I am talking to are actually there fighting as a member of the YPG. If this site would let my screenshot of the conversation show up you would of seen this:

"they will teach you about APO and they're political philosophy when you are at the training academy but you don't have to be into it"

But for someone supposedly so close to the Kurds and their struggle you are not actually fighting with them, strangely, so you don't really know what they think.

So I guess ideas are actually emerge in combat situations and not in thinking I guess. You know like real man I guess, in life death situations. And Kurds they must be like killer militants with one thing in their mind: war and no progressive ideas despite they do implement and write about them grin
To be honest what I like in Kurdish movement is that their ideas and actions show how biased and false your mindset is, It is just a mix of colonial imagination, patriarchal ideas and a naive self-assurance that you know it all, you know the real.

Chilli Sauce
May 30 2015 17:02
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We support equal rights we don't support feminism.

Do you really not understand that feminism is a multi-faceted movement with wide variety of ideas and positions?

Quote:
No matter how much you want the PKK membership to have your exact political ideas the fact is they do not.

You really do not understand the politics of the libcom.org boards, do you?

gram negative
May 30 2015 17:07
Georgie89 wrote:
That is a really long walk around the statement:

"My politics and those of the general libcom user and almost zero support amongst any segement of the population"

For people with almsot no support you sure do like speaking on behalf of workers, women, people of colour. Workers don't support socialism, as you can see by the size of the feminist movement and membership of feminist groups most women don't in anyway identify as feminist.

So do you wonder why when SJW's try and have someone fired or act cunty to them it might lead to irritation? Do you think the SJW's irritate most people? Let me guess you ahve not counted so can't possibly comment? LOL.

lol, nice bad faith. why does this subject hurt your feelings so much?

Georgie89
May 30 2015 17:07
Chilli Sauce wrote:
Quote:
We support equal rights we don't support feminism.

Do you really not understand that feminism is a multi-faceted movement with wide variety of ideas and positions?

Quote:
No matter how much you want the PKK membership to have your exact political ideas the fact is they do not.

You really do not understand the politics of the libcom.org boards, do you?

Hence why I said this the people identified as feminist in places like Kurdistan would not be comparable to first world "feminists" like Bahar.

When I say I don't support frminism like that of Bahar of Suey Park it does not mean I don't support feminism as espoused by the likes of the YPG or the women in places where women are actually oppressed as a class of people.

Chilli Sauce
May 30 2015 17:10
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Not the radical feminism pushed on here, by SJW's.

Gerogie89
Member for: 3 days 18 hours

kurekmurek
May 30 2015 17:11
Quote:
Yours tears taste salty. Your illusions about the YPG shattered. Of course those actual YPG fighters don't know anything about the YPG. hahahaha. Moron.

What is shattered? Why it should shutter? It is because you say to me you are speaking with militants? Well you also just said you know most of POC think. Do you realize how reliable your profile for me is?

George please go away, you are just being a dick here discussing unrelated issues and not at all reply to anyone's points.

ANYWAY maybe we should all stop wasting this thread with unrelated issues? This forum thread is about a student activist who was threatened with death. Let's everyone stick to it. And maybe admins should just delete comments unrelated to that, this is going ridiculus.

Note: I was actually-in my mind- hiding the animal rights part of kurdish movement by the way from lib com community grin As I was thinking it might further hurt their reputation here. Thanks to George it is out now grin

kurekmurek
May 30 2015 17:17
Quote:
Not the radical feminism pushed on here, by SJW's.

Improvement: he now changed what he attacked from feminism to radical feminism.
Again, YPG teaching man what feminism is grin I guess you get your lessons even before going there,

Steven.
May 30 2015 17:37

Sorry everyone didn't look at this thread for a couple of days. "Georgie", a.k.a. Brazilian Jujitsu, who was previously banned for sexist trolling, has been banned again. As he clearly still has issues with women (well, white women at least as he keeps banging on about).

Bizarrely though he also seems to have forgotten his own race, and the fact that he repeatedly referred to himself as white, before then claiming not to be. Whoops!

Also he doesn't understand what hipsters are.

He also seems to have no understanding of logic or the ability to make a rational argument. Pretty much every post he did on this thread was also off topic.

Anyway spending time posting on here getting himself all worked up about horrible white women with their "white women grins" is just delaying his getting his ticket to Syria, so our banning him should help him get his priorities in order to get packing!

Finally, I'm pretty impressed with how he now has such an insightful understanding of the YPG and PKK, and their female members and their views on feminism and women's liberation in particular. Especially how he gleaned this so quickly having stated on the forums about two days ago he spoke to someone from the YPG for the first time then!

omen
May 30 2015 18:17
Steven. wrote:
He also seems to have no understanding of logic or the ability to make a rational argument.

He also doesn't understand how the internet works, and posted a link to a local file on his hard drive, then wondered why it didn't show up here. roll eyes

Georgie89 wrote:
[img ]file://localhost/Users/JP92/Desktop/Hidn.png[/img]

So to answer kurremkarmerruk's rhetorical question, yes he is a stupid little fuck.

Steven.
May 30 2015 18:18
omen wrote:
Steven. wrote:
He also seems to have no understanding of logic or the ability to make a rational argument.

He also doesn't understand how the internet works, and posted a link to a local file on his hard drive, then wondered why it didn't show up here. roll eyes

Georgie89 wrote:
[img ]file://localhost/Users/JP92/Desktop/Hidn.png[/img]

lol that's brilliant!

eta I meant to say also I found his tales of his workplace where apparently his female colleagues spend their days making fun of Bahar, feminists and tumblr social justice warriors, shall we say slightly unconvincing…

Tyrion
May 30 2015 18:48

Looks like Georgie made it to Rojava! Found a picture of his receiving a warm reception as a renowned scholar of the oppressed peoples of the third world and representative of the hatred toward self-entitled middle class SJW feminism ubiquitous among all real proles.

kurekmurek
May 30 2015 18:51

Well not to get conspricy really but recently flint also commented that Anti-war also does not know how to upload things to net so they can be seen by others (so he/she give references to his/her hard drive) well I am not saying anything or pointing fingers, but the intelligence of some of my opponents show a strong resemblance that frightens me smile

Note: you got to give me the right to make this comment smile . Please nobody feel bad or think I am criticising everyone

Fleur
May 30 2015 21:00

Steven wrote:

Quote:
"Georgie", a.k.a. Brazilian Jujitsu, who was previously banned for sexist trolling

I bloody knew it. I thought I recognized the annoying little fucker.

Serge Forward
May 30 2015 22:01

Well, that went well grin

By the way, what does 'SJW' mean???

Steven.
May 30 2015 23:46
Serge Forward wrote:
Well, that went well grin

By the way, what does 'SJW' mean???

Social Justice Warrior. The main topic of conversation for female proletarians in the UK, apparently…

Serge Forward
May 31 2015 00:28

Thanks, Steven. I'm so unhip I'm still using terms like TTFN. Can someone do a glossary of social meeja bollocks sometime, just for those of us who can't be arsed with such shite.

Steven.
Jun 1 2015 07:43
Serge Forward wrote:
Thanks, Steven. I'm so unhip I'm still using terms like TTFN. Can someone do a glossary of social meeja bollocks sometime, just for those of us who can't be arsed with such shite.

www.urbandictionary.com

Serge Forward
Jun 1 2015 10:26

Nah, that's a bullshit dictionary. I've added words only ever used in my family to that... or stuff invented solely for shits and giggles. Besides, I like being unhip. It's what I do best.

Mr. Jolly
Jun 1 2015 16:04
autogestión wrote:
However, you and I both know that FGM generally has worse consequences than male circumcision. In many cases, when carried out in a medically sterile environment, male circumcision probably has no negative consequences whatsoever. Any objection I have to it is to do with the impossibility of a child validly consenting to such an operation, not the consequences of the operation itself. Anyway, this is getting way off topic

As a side note,

Actually a lot of FGM (in se Asia in particular) is completely analogous with male circumcision as its only the clitoral hood that is cut. A blanket ban on all FGM is inconsistent if MGM is also not banned.