I just visited an art museum the other day, it was a joyful event. And what I like about art is that after being in a building full of it is that you begin to look around you and see everything as a type of art, for a time.
Yep and of course art and architecture are bound together. Being a simple lad from a council estate it took me a long time to realise why art is important.
During the Second World War, Picasso remained in Paris while the Germans occupied the city. Picasso's artistic style did not fit the Nazi ideal of art, so he did not exhibit during this time. He was often harassed by the Gestapo. During one search of his apartment, an officer saw a photograph of the painting Guernica. "Did you do that?" the German asked Picasso. "No," he replied, "You did".[43]
I was given a half sized, block mounted print of it for my twenty-first birthday. However in a small room it gets a bit oppressive after a bit. I’ve had similar mood changes from sitting in the Rothko room at the Tate Gallery.
All great art is worth experiencing though very little might be called entertaining. That’s possibly why I appreciate the black humour of Francisco Goya’s, ‘Saturn Devouring His Son’, which I understand he painted/hung in his dining room.
Just to say that the Museo Reina Sofía (where Guernica is located) also displays a lot of amazing imagery from the Spanish civil war that I've only seen at that museum and no where else (Web or otherwise). Last I checked, they rotate the collection seasonally so something to keep in mind. It's certainly worth a visit if you happen to be in Madrid imo.
I've had a big poster of Breugel the younger's Flemish Fair in my living room for over 30 years. I really love this picture. Got it for about 10p from an Oxfam in Stafford in 1983-4. As I've moved house a lot and been evicted a fair few times, it's now getting a bit tatty. Should have framed it but never mind. When my kids were little, we used to do a version of "where's Wally"... can you find the kids playing marbles... the woman with the bare arse... etc.
From teenager I've always admired the art of Gee Vaucher but never really got art apart from that. Then when I was in my mid thirties I went to Florence and visited the galleries there more out of interest for architecture than the paintings. Then when I saw the religious art, Botticelli etc, I was just struck dumb by it! It really got in amongst me, like super emotional. After that I started eating it up, all the old masters stuff Turner, Claude etc. then I found the Pre-Raphealites and finally the Dutch masters, particularly the interiors. December 2014 I shelled out 500 quid to go to The Hague and see all the Dutch stuff and then became ill a few days before and couldn't go. I'm determined to get there somehow one day.
I like some modern conceptual stuff too especially Bill Drummond but really I'm quite conservative - it's the old guys with exquisite skills that get to me the most. Many a tear has fallen from my eye looking at this stuff.
I really like Russian suprematism, in particular Kazimir Malevich and El Lissitzky. And I have a soft spot for Italian futurism, although their work is moving in the sense of being scary given their fascist inclinations.
I think some Banksy stuff is great and thought provoking, seriously good. I'm not a big fan of street art though. But I guess that's a problem for me and to do with seeing it as grafitti and anti-social.
I like what the Stuckists have to say it makes me smile - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuckism
I also have an instinctive appreciation of dada and surrealism. I just get it.
red and black riot
Yes I am. I like all kinds of stuff. I like Banksy and I like what Billy Childish and the Stuckists have to say about Art.
I recently visited the home and gallery of Joan Miró - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Miro
It was a lovely, peaceful and inspiring day. It's not all about the big names - http://www.tate.org.uk/context-comment/blogs/reaper-miros-civil-war-protest
Auld-bod
I liked this from Wikipedia:
During the Second World War, Picasso remained in Paris while the Germans occupied the city. Picasso's artistic style did not fit the Nazi ideal of art, so he did not exhibit during this time. He was often harassed by the Gestapo. During one search of his apartment, an officer saw a photograph of the painting Guernica. "Did you do that?" the German asked Picasso. "No," he replied, "You did".[43]
I was given a half sized, block mounted print of it for my twenty-first birthday. However in a small room it gets a bit oppressive after a bit. I’ve had similar mood changes from sitting in the Rothko room at the Tate Gallery.
All great art is worth experiencing though very little might be called entertaining. That’s possibly why I appreciate the black humour of Francisco Goya’s, ‘Saturn Devouring His Son’, which I understand he painted/hung in his dining room.
During the Second World War, Picasso remained in Paris while the Germans occupied the city. Picasso's artistic style did not fit the Nazi ideal of art, so he did not exhibit during this time. He was often harassed by the Gestapo. During one search of his apartment, an officer saw a photograph of the painting Guernica. "Did you do that?" the German asked Picasso. "No," he replied, "You did".[43]
I was given a half sized, block mounted print of it for my twenty-first birthday. However in a small room it gets a bit oppressive after a bit. I’ve had similar mood changes from sitting in the Rothko room at the Tate Gallery.
All great art is worth experiencing though very little might be called entertaining. That’s possibly why I appreciate the black humour of Francisco Goya’s, ‘Saturn Devouring His Son’, which I understand he painted/hung in his dining room.
Thank you it's now on my list http://www.museoreinasofia.es/en
sabot
Just to say that the Museo Reina Sofía (where Guernica is located) also displays a lot of amazing imagery from the Spanish civil war that I've only seen at that museum and no where else (Web or otherwise). Last I checked, they rotate the collection seasonally so something to keep in mind. It's certainly worth a visit if you happen to be in Madrid imo.
Yes, I'm moved by art - particularly the timeless art of the caves of the Upper Paleolithic. Here's a link to part two of an article by the marxist Max Raphael and his analysis of the cave art of the Franco-Cantabrian: http://en.internationalism.org/icconline/201603/13879/max-raphael-and-marxist-perspective-art-part-2. Part one, a general analysis of art, can be found on the same website..
I like art. But I hate museums. Unfortunately, in our age, that's where you have to go to see art. But I always feel like its a little bit of an overload. There are too many works, too close together, everywhere you look. Its a little numbing and I can't appreciate any single work as much as I should be able to. Though this may just be an issue with my attention span.
Art is mostly loud noises in lieu of just saying something when given the chance. In most other arts, it might be taken for granted that most of it isn't that good, but art takes on a sense of generic acceptability - well, old visual art - because it seems to be at the least not making explicit statements and condemning you. This, however, is mediocre, and should generally not be taken as positive appeal, putting down both the artist and the potentials of the thing. In any case, it seems generally accurate that, bad faith aside, a brief sketch by someone with something to say will be better than any elaborate works, and most in galleries, making them seem somewhat redundant on the one hand (heh), but in general because art is a lower field than such and can only aspire to what is higher if it is to be better, as it were. Galleries are generally a host of artworks treated indifferently and thrown together as if none will get in the way of the other, which they usually don't.
That said, Andrea Camassei has a few decent paintings, and Tintoretto could also be decent. While the general problem of religious art in such contexts was that the artist had to be hidden compared to the religious content external to them, as such that Tintoretto and such tended to impose themselves quite fervently over such things might imply a less religious impulse. In addition, if you tinted most paintings red, they might come to resemble a Tintoretto, weirdly. The fact that the watcher was supposed to relate to the Jesus-figure generally makes the darker stylings come off as slightly hollow as well. Nonetheless, they do stand out somewhat from the usual run of paintings at the time. Most 'darker stylings' in art tend to amount to something along the lines of the 'Hunger Games,' so no doubt he at least aspired to something higher, as many artists it may be noted do not.
I like art. But I hate museums. Unfortunately, in our age, that's where you have to go to see art. But I always feel like its a little bit of an overload. There are too many works, too close together, everywhere you look. Its a little numbing and I can't appreciate any single work as much as I should be able to. Though this may just be an issue with my attention span.
I kind of agree, but for different reasons. I think museums are generally too sparse. I don't know where you're from, but if you take the Tate Modern for example, it's just too empty, which is a crime considering they've got 3 times the amount of work in storage, that the taxpayer can't see without endless requests. It's filled with empty walls - and they're building an extension! I'd like to see it spread out into the "provinces" to get better access for people who can't travel to London every week, but that's a debate that's been going on for donkeys years now. Plus, museums are quite a modern concept, generally set up by the rich for their own benefit - tax breaks - or prestige. Galleries and corporate exhibitions are worse, mind. Elitist, intimidating white cubed showrooms, light bouncing everywhere, filled with conceptual shit that is so deeply entrenched I can't see an end to it. Outside of museums and galleries, "public art" is generally a load of patronising crap, part of urban renewal plans put in place by councils who haven't grasped that people don't really need a lump of titanium in their town square.
Saying that, as a poor, bitter oil painter, I love art. Just like everything else though, it's poisoned by the industry, education especially.
On a positive note, for those in Melbourne, I recently saw an well made, powerful and contemporary bronze sculpture, titled Courage by William Eicholtz, near the Fitzroy Town Hall. While sat in the park I saw a few people stop in their tracks and give it a good study - it's a rare thing.
I'll also echo Baboon's sentiment about the Lascaux caves - incredible. I've been lucky enough to see some cave art in France, and it's a feeling I'll never forget.
My favourite gallery is the Collection de l'art Brut in Lausanne, Switzerland. I've made the trip from London three times now, just for that. Incredible, very, very powerful. I could spend days in there.
Finally, I believe Paula Rego is the best living artist, perhaps the best in the last 50 years or so, at least of the one's who "made it". Very powerful and beautiful, with subtle, dark narratives. Like Robert Hughes once said, "If there's more than two people in a Rego painting, you can be sure that something bad is about to happen to at least one of them".
From teenager I've always admired the art of Gee Vaucher but never really got art apart from that. Then when I was in my mid thirties I went to Florence and visited the galleries there more out of interest for architecture than the paintings. Then when I saw the religious art, Botticelli etc, I was just struck dumb by it! It really got in amongst me, like super emotional. After that I started eating it up, all the old masters stuff Turner, Claude etc. then I found the Pre-Raphealites and finally the Dutch masters, particularly the interiors. December 2014 I shelled out 500 quid to go to The Hague and see all the Dutch stuff and then became ill a few days before and couldn't go. I'm determined to get there somehow one day.
I like some modern conceptual stuff too especially Bill Drummond but really I'm quite conservative - it's the old guys with exquisite skills that get to me the most. Many a tear has fallen from my eye looking at this stuff.
Gee Vaucher is brilliant. Emma Pugmire is another female artist I like, she is a Stuckist and an anti-capitalist, theres also Ella Guru. Other Stuckists I like are Wolf Howard, Philip Absolon and Eamon Everall and my girlfriend likes Sue Kreitzman.
From teenager I've always admired the art of Gee Vaucher but never really got art apart from that. Then when I was in my mid thirties I went to Florence and visited the galleries there more out of interest for architecture than the paintings. Then when I saw the religious art, Botticelli etc, I was just struck dumb by it! It really got in amongst me, like super emotional. After that I started eating it up, all the old masters stuff Turner, Claude etc. then I found the Pre-Raphealites and finally the Dutch masters, particularly the interiors. December 2014 I shelled out 500 quid to go to The Hague and see all the Dutch stuff and then became ill a few days before and couldn't go. I'm determined to get there somehow one day.
I like some modern conceptual stuff too especially Bill Drummond but really I'm quite conservative - it's the old guys with exquisite skills that get to me the most. Many a tear has fallen from my eye looking at this stuff.
Gee Vaucher is brilliant. Emma Pugmire is another female artist I like, she is a Stuckist and an anti-capitalist, theres also Ella Guru. Other Stuckists I like are Wolf Howard, Philip Absolon and Eamon Everall and my girlfriend likes Sue Kreitzman.
Many years ago, in Warwick University (I think) was an exhibition of photomontages by the Dadaist Hanna Hoch. The Whitechapel gallery held an exhibition in 2014. I was sorry to miss it. Her work is well worth seeking out. It makes you think, “Why didn’t I think of that!” (A bit like when you first see Picasso’s bicycle seat & handlebars.)
Note: her entry in Wikipedia is very poor, whoever wrote it appears more interested in her love life.
I like Lowry,Monet and Impressionism,Flávio Constantini,Gee Vaucher,Picasso and the Propaganda Art of the Spanish Revolution which I'm not sure how you would characterise?Abstract or Cubist perhaps?
But I hate museums. Unfortunately, in our age, that's where
you have to go to see art. But I always feel like its a little bit of an
overload. There are too many works...
Yeah we live in the age of megamuseums. I belive there's been a massive move
towards huge institutions recently. Partly because huge institutions can
borrow art from other huge institutions/the mega rich and afford the
insurance, the bureacracy and the air quality. Another centralising
business... no surprise there.
I rarely enjoy the half day in a megamuseum experience but if they are free as
some are in London it's nice to pop in to see a few specific artworks.
Over a few years you might end up looking at most of them.
I also think the commercial galleries are quite good at showing art. They
don't do it to sell art but to keep their artists. If they don't do exhibtions
the artists will go elsewhere. The sales happen in private viewing rooms.
So the big evil gallerists like Gagosian, Hauser and Wirth etc. can imho do
quite good shows. You have to be able to ignore the attempts they make to keep
the rabble out via poshness cues though...
Stansfield: rubbishing conceptual art is rubbish! There's lots of good art in
that category.
Auld Bod: I googled Hanna Höch which looked very good. More beautiful
that most collage and good ideas.
Stansfield: rubbishing conceptual art is rubbish! There's lots of good art in
that category.
Go on then, try me!
Edit: Saying that I'd rather walk around a conceptual exhibition then go see anything by the Stuckists. *ducks*
Edit #2: Actually I take that back. Stuckists win on penalties, 1-0, after all the players have had ten chances each to score and everyone's gone home.
Many years ago, in Warwick University (I think) was an exhibition of photomontages by the Dadaist Hanna Hoch. The Whitechapel gallery held an exhibition in 2014. I was sorry to miss it. Her work is well worth seeking out. It makes you think, “Why didn’t I think of that!” (A bit like when you first see Picasso’s bicycle seat & handlebars.)
Note: her entry in Wikipedia is very poor, whoever wrote it appears more interested in her love life.
Hannah Hoch is awesome. Agree with you about the wiki page.
I really like art, I was going to say I'm not usually very moved by art but actually thinking about it I probably am often moved by artworks I really like.
I generally like twentieth century art.
There's a video by an artist called Pipilotti Rist called I'm not the girl who misses much, that I find quite moving.
Recently I have started getting into very old artworks and they move me, that people so many years ago living in totally different societies still made artworks, whether that's ancient Egypt or prehistoric or whatever.
I mean, I really love art but the point of art is not always to move us, it can be to make us think or other things.
I was glad to see that an exhibition of Alberto Giacometti’s sculptural figures and painted portraits was opening within a reasonable distance of me. Unfortunately the tickets are twelve quid each, with no re-admittance.
I was told a story by an arts tutor at the Lanchester in Coventry. One day an art collector opened his door to find Giacometti wanting entrance. He explained that he’d come to finish the painting that had been purchased several years before. Giacometti had been troubled by this, and although assured by the owner who was very pleased with his painting, insisted on his right to complete the work. Bemused the owner relented and presently was given the ‘finished’ work. It had been completely reworked. He loved the new painting, though was glad he had photographed the ‘original’.
I've become increasingly interested in so-called Art Naïve. I suppose Henri Rousseau is the most well-known exponent of this genre, however I like a lot of South American works.
I think the most intense experience I've had concerning painting was seeing a piece by Cézanne. It felt like I had stared at it for an hour. I was exhausted afterwards.
I would recommend Sophie Taeuber-Arp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Taeuber-Arp
Both Hannah and Sophie were incredible artists in that they broke through the gender inbalance, but were incredible anyway. Sophie's work is wonderful.
Auld-bod
Many years ago, in Warwick University (I think) was an exhibition of photomontages by the Dadaist Hanna Hoch. The Whitechapel gallery held an exhibition in 2014. I was sorry to miss it. Her work is well worth seeking out. It makes you think, “Why didn’t I think of that!” (A bit like when you first see Picasso’s bicycle seat & handlebars.)
Note: her entry in Wikipedia is very poor, whoever wrote it appears more interested in her love life.
I framed up a Klee and put it on my wall, I'm looking at it now. It's fab. I'd take a picture and post it but I can't figure out how to posts pictures. Anyone?
I went to FACT in Liverpool today to see a multi-media art piece by Japanese artist Ryoichi Kurokawa
This groundbreaking, cross-disciplinary exhibition will be Japanese artist Ryoichi Kurokowa’s first UK solo show and will bring together the fields of art and science.
Astrophysicists at the Research Institute into the Fundamental Laws of the Universe (CEA Irfu, Paris-Saclay) have granted Kurokawa the unique opportunity to explore data taken from giant molecular clouds in space - data which may hold the secrets behind the birth of stars. Using these previously undocumented findings, Kurokawa has developed a new body of work, unfold. The exhibition at FACT marks the world premiere of bringing this data to life.
New commission, unfold, explores the birth and evolution of stars offering viewers an artistic, yet scientific, representation of how the solar system was born, and how our galaxy might evolve. Kurokawa will construct his vision of a molecular cloud as close as possible to the scientific truth using striking 3D representations of space, combined with interpretations of how star clusters form within the cloud until the birth of sun-like stars.
This new project will be presented as a large scale multi-screen and surround sound work in Gallery 1, as well as other iterations throughout the FACT building and surrounding area. Cutting edge audiovisual technology will be used to enhance the artist’s breath-taking reimagining of scientific data and its accompanying soundscape.
This exhibition marks the outcome of a period of extensive research from Ryoichi Kurokawa, in collaboration with Vincent Minier, astrophysicist at CEA Irfu, Paris Saclay.
There's a preview here well worth a look. It's free entry so enjoy!
Capital encourages any writing, speaking and drawing as long as these artistic products remain in the domain of representation of what is lived, of the spectacle, without ever breaking through the barriers towards the transformation of life. Within these limits, these products are no more than commodities like any other.
From Thesis 42, Theses of Programmatical Orientation: ICG
Noah, the easiest would be to upload it to an image hosting site to get a unique URL and then use the image tag.
Khwaga, I missed this reply somehow but thanks anyway. The thing is, have you any idea how complicated that sounds to me? I think the easiest thing would be that if anyone wants to see my Klee print they should PM me and then I'll give them my address and they can come round and have a look!!!
I just visited an art museum
I just visited an art museum the other day, it was a joyful event. And what I like about art is that after being in a building full of it is that you begin to look around you and see everything as a type of art, for a time.
Yep and of course art and
Yep and of course art and architecture are bound together. Being a simple lad from a council estate it took me a long time to realise why art is important.
Yes I am. I like all kinds of
Yes I am. I like all kinds of stuff. I like Banksy and I like what Billy Childish and the Stuckists have to say about Art.
I liked this from
I liked this from Wikipedia:
During the Second World War, Picasso remained in Paris while the Germans occupied the city. Picasso's artistic style did not fit the Nazi ideal of art, so he did not exhibit during this time. He was often harassed by the Gestapo. During one search of his apartment, an officer saw a photograph of the painting Guernica. "Did you do that?" the German asked Picasso. "No," he replied, "You did".[43]
I was given a half sized, block mounted print of it for my twenty-first birthday. However in a small room it gets a bit oppressive after a bit. I’ve had similar mood changes from sitting in the Rothko room at the Tate Gallery.
All great art is worth experiencing though very little might be called entertaining. That’s possibly why I appreciate the black humour of Francisco Goya’s, ‘Saturn Devouring His Son’, which I understand he painted/hung in his dining room.
http://totallyhistory.com/saturn-devouring-his-son/
Just to say that the Museo
Just to say that the Museo Reina Sofía (where Guernica is located) also displays a lot of amazing imagery from the Spanish civil war that I've only seen at that museum and no where else (Web or otherwise). Last I checked, they rotate the collection seasonally so something to keep in mind. It's certainly worth a visit if you happen to be in Madrid imo.
I've had a big poster of
I've had a big poster of Breugel the younger's Flemish Fair in my living room for over 30 years. I really love this picture. Got it for about 10p from an Oxfam in Stafford in 1983-4. As I've moved house a lot and been evicted a fair few times, it's now getting a bit tatty. Should have framed it but never mind. When my kids were little, we used to do a version of "where's Wally"... can you find the kids playing marbles... the woman with the bare arse... etc.
Hell yes! From teenager I've
Hell yes!
From teenager I've always admired the art of Gee Vaucher but never really got art apart from that. Then when I was in my mid thirties I went to Florence and visited the galleries there more out of interest for architecture than the paintings. Then when I saw the religious art, Botticelli etc, I was just struck dumb by it! It really got in amongst me, like super emotional. After that I started eating it up, all the old masters stuff Turner, Claude etc. then I found the Pre-Raphealites and finally the Dutch masters, particularly the interiors. December 2014 I shelled out 500 quid to go to The Hague and see all the Dutch stuff and then became ill a few days before and couldn't go. I'm determined to get there somehow one day.
I like some modern conceptual stuff too especially Bill Drummond but really I'm quite conservative - it's the old guys with exquisite skills that get to me the most. Many a tear has fallen from my eye looking at this stuff.
I really like Russian
I really like Russian suprematism, in particular Kazimir Malevich and El Lissitzky. And I have a soft spot for Italian futurism, although their work is moving in the sense of being scary given their fascist inclinations.
I think some Banksy stuff is
I think some Banksy stuff is great and thought provoking, seriously good. I'm not a big fan of street art though. But I guess that's a problem for me and to do with seeing it as grafitti and anti-social.
I like what the Stuckists have to say it makes me smile - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuckism
I also have an instinctive appreciation of dada and surrealism. I just get it.
red and black riot
I recently visited the home
I recently visited the home and gallery of Joan Miró - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Miro
It was a lovely, peaceful and inspiring day. It's not all about the big names - http://www.tate.org.uk/context-comment/blogs/reaper-miros-civil-war-protest
Auld-bod
Auld-bod
Thank you it's now on my list
Thank you it's now on my list http://www.museoreinasofia.es/en
sabot
Yes, I'm moved by art -
Yes, I'm moved by art - particularly the timeless art of the caves of the Upper Paleolithic. Here's a link to part two of an article by the marxist Max Raphael and his analysis of the cave art of the Franco-Cantabrian: http://en.internationalism.org/icconline/201603/13879/max-raphael-and-marxist-perspective-art-part-2. Part one, a general analysis of art, can be found on the same website..
I like art. But I hate
I like art. But I hate museums. Unfortunately, in our age, that's where you have to go to see art. But I always feel like its a little bit of an overload. There are too many works, too close together, everywhere you look. Its a little numbing and I can't appreciate any single work as much as I should be able to. Though this may just be an issue with my attention span.
Art is mostly loud noises in
Art is mostly loud noises in lieu of just saying something when given the chance. In most other arts, it might be taken for granted that most of it isn't that good, but art takes on a sense of generic acceptability - well, old visual art - because it seems to be at the least not making explicit statements and condemning you. This, however, is mediocre, and should generally not be taken as positive appeal, putting down both the artist and the potentials of the thing. In any case, it seems generally accurate that, bad faith aside, a brief sketch by someone with something to say will be better than any elaborate works, and most in galleries, making them seem somewhat redundant on the one hand (heh), but in general because art is a lower field than such and can only aspire to what is higher if it is to be better, as it were. Galleries are generally a host of artworks treated indifferently and thrown together as if none will get in the way of the other, which they usually don't.
That said, Andrea Camassei has a few decent paintings, and Tintoretto could also be decent. While the general problem of religious art in such contexts was that the artist had to be hidden compared to the religious content external to them, as such that Tintoretto and such tended to impose themselves quite fervently over such things might imply a less religious impulse. In addition, if you tinted most paintings red, they might come to resemble a Tintoretto, weirdly. The fact that the watcher was supposed to relate to the Jesus-figure generally makes the darker stylings come off as slightly hollow as well. Nonetheless, they do stand out somewhat from the usual run of paintings at the time. Most 'darker stylings' in art tend to amount to something along the lines of the 'Hunger Games,' so no doubt he at least aspired to something higher, as many artists it may be noted do not.
infektfm wrote: I like art.
infektfm
I kind of agree, but for different reasons. I think museums are generally too sparse. I don't know where you're from, but if you take the Tate Modern for example, it's just too empty, which is a crime considering they've got 3 times the amount of work in storage, that the taxpayer can't see without endless requests. It's filled with empty walls - and they're building an extension! I'd like to see it spread out into the "provinces" to get better access for people who can't travel to London every week, but that's a debate that's been going on for donkeys years now. Plus, museums are quite a modern concept, generally set up by the rich for their own benefit - tax breaks - or prestige. Galleries and corporate exhibitions are worse, mind. Elitist, intimidating white cubed showrooms, light bouncing everywhere, filled with conceptual shit that is so deeply entrenched I can't see an end to it. Outside of museums and galleries, "public art" is generally a load of patronising crap, part of urban renewal plans put in place by councils who haven't grasped that people don't really need a lump of titanium in their town square.
Saying that, as a poor, bitter oil painter, I love art. Just like everything else though, it's poisoned by the industry, education especially.
On a positive note, for those in Melbourne, I recently saw an well made, powerful and contemporary bronze sculpture, titled Courage by William Eicholtz, near the Fitzroy Town Hall. While sat in the park I saw a few people stop in their tracks and give it a good study - it's a rare thing.
I'll also echo Baboon's sentiment about the Lascaux caves - incredible. I've been lucky enough to see some cave art in France, and it's a feeling I'll never forget.
My favourite gallery is the Collection de l'art Brut in Lausanne, Switzerland. I've made the trip from London three times now, just for that. Incredible, very, very powerful. I could spend days in there.
Finally, I believe Paula Rego is the best living artist, perhaps the best in the last 50 years or so, at least of the one's who "made it". Very powerful and beautiful, with subtle, dark narratives. Like Robert Hughes once said, "If there's more than two people in a Rego painting, you can be sure that something bad is about to happen to at least one of them".
Stuckism in Art History with
Stuckism in Art History with Charles Thomson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-7v0wtAEE
Billy Childish interview with the Guardian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sWHjwJwah8
Noah Fence wrote: Hell
Noah Fence
Gee Vaucher is brilliant. Emma Pugmire is another female artist I like, she is a Stuckist and an anti-capitalist, theres also Ella Guru. Other Stuckists I like are Wolf Howard, Philip Absolon and Eamon Everall and my girlfriend likes Sue Kreitzman.
red and black riot
red and black riot
http://emmapugmire.deviantart
http://emmapugmire.deviantart.com/gallery/
Many years ago, in Warwick
Many years ago, in Warwick University (I think) was an exhibition of photomontages by the Dadaist Hanna Hoch. The Whitechapel gallery held an exhibition in 2014. I was sorry to miss it. Her work is well worth seeking out. It makes you think, “Why didn’t I think of that!” (A bit like when you first see Picasso’s bicycle seat & handlebars.)
Note: her entry in Wikipedia is very poor, whoever wrote it appears more interested in her love life.
I like Lowry,Monet and
I like Lowry,Monet and Impressionism,Flávio Constantini,Gee Vaucher,Picasso and the Propaganda Art of the Spanish Revolution which I'm not sure how you would characterise?Abstract or Cubist perhaps?
No mention of the most
No mention of the most popular art---music?
That's already got its own
That's already got its own 'what you listening to' thread.
infektfm wrote: But I hate
infektfm
Yeah we live in the age of megamuseums. I belive there's been a massive move
towards huge institutions recently. Partly because huge institutions can
borrow art from other huge institutions/the mega rich and afford the
insurance, the bureacracy and the air quality. Another centralising
business... no surprise there.
I rarely enjoy the half day in a megamuseum experience but if they are free as
some are in London it's nice to pop in to see a few specific artworks.
Over a few years you might end up looking at most of them.
I also think the commercial galleries are quite good at showing art. They
don't do it to sell art but to keep their artists. If they don't do exhibtions
the artists will go elsewhere. The sales happen in private viewing rooms.
So the big evil gallerists like Gagosian, Hauser and Wirth etc. can imho do
quite good shows. You have to be able to ignore the attempts they make to keep
the rabble out via poshness cues though...
Stansfield: rubbishing conceptual art is rubbish! There's lots of good art in
that category.
Auld Bod: I googled Hanna Höch which looked very good. More beautiful
that most collage and good ideas.
Cooked wrote: Stansfield:
Cooked
Go on then, try me!
Edit: Saying that I'd rather walk around a conceptual exhibition then go see anything by the Stuckists. *ducks*
Edit #2: Actually I take that back. Stuckists win on penalties, 1-0, after all the players have had ten chances each to score and everyone's gone home.
freemind wrote: ...Propaganda
freemind
I'd say it was quite Futurist in character.
Auld-bod wrote: Many years
Auld-bod
Hannah Hoch is awesome. Agree with you about the wiki page.
Ernst Ludwig Kirchner's work
Ernst Ludwig Kirchner's work was also very good in my opinion. A shame he had such a troubled life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Ludwig_Kirchner
I am moved mostly by my
I am moved mostly by my truck.
Pennoid wrote: I am moved
Pennoid
My gran was mostly moved by prune juice!
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Yes, I appreciate arts and
Yes, I appreciate arts and have high respect to artists whatever platform they use.
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gram negative wrote: Woah!
gram negative
Woah! What is this?
the blind girl, by john
the blind girl, by john everett millais. pre-raphealite.
here's another from the same school by william holman hunt
Thanks, I'm surprised I
Thanks, I'm surprised I haven't seen these before. Very beautiful and thought provoking.
I really like art, I was
I really like art, I was going to say I'm not usually very moved by art but actually thinking about it I probably am often moved by artworks I really like.
I generally like twentieth century art.
There's a video by an artist called Pipilotti Rist called I'm not the girl who misses much, that I find quite moving.
Recently I have started getting into very old artworks and they move me, that people so many years ago living in totally different societies still made artworks, whether that's ancient Egypt or prehistoric or whatever.
I mean, I really love art but the point of art is not always to move us, it can be to make us think or other things.
I was glad to see that an
I was glad to see that an exhibition of Alberto Giacometti’s sculptural figures and painted portraits was opening within a reasonable distance of me. Unfortunately the tickets are twelve quid each, with no re-admittance.
I was told a story by an arts tutor at the Lanchester in Coventry. One day an art collector opened his door to find Giacometti wanting entrance. He explained that he’d come to finish the painting that had been purchased several years before. Giacometti had been troubled by this, and although assured by the owner who was very pleased with his painting, insisted on his right to complete the work. Bemused the owner relented and presently was given the ‘finished’ work. It had been completely reworked. He loved the new painting, though was glad he had photographed the ‘original’.
Apparently Stendhal did,
Apparently Stendhal did, intensely:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stendhal_syndrome
And Freud was always fascinated by this:
https://www.college.columbia.edu/core/content/moses-michelangelo-1513-15
I've become increasingly
I've become increasingly interested in so-called Art Naïve. I suppose Henri Rousseau is the most well-known exponent of this genre, however I like a lot of South American works.
I think the most intense experience I've had concerning painting was seeing a piece by Cézanne. It felt like I had stared at it for an hour. I was exhausted afterwards.
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I would recommend Sophie
I would recommend Sophie Taeuber-Arp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Taeuber-Arp
Both Hannah and Sophie were incredible artists in that they broke through the gender inbalance, but were incredible anyway. Sophie's work is wonderful.
Auld-bod
http://www.moma.org/collectio
http://www.moma.org/collection/works/38360?locale=en
http://www.moma.org/collection/works/80537?locale=en
This is an example of an art
This is an example of an art work producing a creative ricochet.
The poem was inspired by Marcel Duchamp’s painting of the same title.
Nude Descending a Staircase
Toe upon toe, a snowing flesh,
A gold of lemon, root and rind,
She sifts in sunlight down the stairs
With nothing on. Nor on her mind.
We spy beneath the banister
A constant thresh of thigh on thigh –
Her lips imprint the swinging air
That parts to let her parts go by.
One-woman waterfall, she wears
Her slow descent like a long cape
And pausing, on the final stair
Collects her motions into shape.
X.J. Kennedy
Sophie Taeuber-Arp -
Sophie Taeuber-Arp - One-of-the-most-important-female-artists-youve-never-heard of
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/google-doodle/12106374/Who-was-Sophie-Taeuber-Arp-One-of-the-most-important-female-artists-youve-never-heard-of.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubette_%28building%29
http://www.tate.org.uk/art/ar
http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/burra-the-snack-bar-t03051
http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/burra-harlem-n05004
A couple of Edward Burra's paintings.
Sleeper wrote: Sophie
Sleeper
Interesting, thankyou for posting.
Check out Rob and Roberta
Check out Rob and Roberta Smith too if you're not already acquainted. Billy Childish publishes his stuff.
Paul Klee. Departure of the
Paul Klee. Departure of the Ships.
Sleeper wrote: Paul Klee.
Sleeper
I framed up a Klee and put it on my wall, I'm looking at it now. It's fab. I'd take a picture and post it but I can't figure out how to posts pictures. Anyone?
I went to FACT in Liverpool
I went to FACT in Liverpool today to see a multi-media art piece by Japanese artist Ryoichi Kurokawa
There's a preview here well worth a look. It's free entry so enjoy!
Ryoichi Kurokawa: Unfold - http://www.fact.co.uk/projects/ryoichi-kurokawa-unfold.aspx?when=today
FACT - http://www.fact.co.uk/
Noah, the easiest would be to
Noah, the easiest would be to upload it to an image hosting site to get a unique URL and then use the image tag.
Sleeper, thanks for posting that Klee image. I didn't know he could be so dark. Also reminds me a bit of Suprematism, which I really like.
Yeah, this one moved me a lot
Yeah, this one moved me a lot
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Afro Supa
Afro Supa Hero
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/ism/exhibitions/afro-supa-hero/
Quote: Capital encourages any
From Thesis 42, Theses of Programmatical Orientation: ICG
The Whitechapel gallery held
The Whitechapel gallery held an exhibition in 2014. I was sorry to miss it.
Quote: The Whitechapel
I saw a nice exhibition of Leger at the Whitechapel Gallery. Lots of men on scaffolds. Good light in the gallery.
Billy Childish vs Dr
Billy Childish vs Dr X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLqi-dKSoU
[youtube]xdLqi-dKSoU[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_CZ3Z0VkaQ
[youtube]L_CZ3Z0VkaQ[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4o9dVfHUKk
[youtube]X4o9dVfHUKk[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqnKnHFXcM
[youtube]uIqnKnHFXcM[/youtube]
Art and Anarchist Studies
Art and Anarchist Studies (Michael Paraskos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHTq7tWQVrI
[youtube]qHTq7tWQVrI[/youtube]
Quote: Noah, the easiest
Khwaga, I missed this reply somehow but thanks anyway. The thing is, have you any idea how complicated that sounds to me? I think the easiest thing would be that if anyone wants to see my Klee print they should PM me and then I'll give them my address and they can come round and have a look!!!