There isn't an anarchist federation or similar libertarian organization in my country. How could we start one?

Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 6, 2020

How would one go about building an anarchist federation in a country where none currently exists?.That country is the Philippines if one needs to know. How would build our organization? And also, how do we build such an organization in the shadow of a revolutionary Marxist movement that has used assassinations against their rivals?

rat

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by rat on February 6, 2020

First off, are you in contact with many comrades in your country?

kasama_libsoc

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 6, 2020

Perhaps not many, but we have comrades and a few have started building contacts with infoshop anarchists.

asn

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Submitted by asn on February 6, 2020

You need to make a serious study of anarchist/anarcho-syndicalist movements in various countries in the 19th Century and onward. Check out various books on Libcom library section. In the Anglo/Advanced capitalist world - where you have anarchist groups/federations often you have the sect and cult phenomena - groupings which are more social clubs/pseudo churches/poor photocopies of the Trotskyist/Marxist Leninist parties in many respects and divorced from the revolutionary/workers control project and serious long range work in the workers' movement. Associated with the middle class/Uni student social base of these groups, the impact of 'Identity Politics' and the legacy of the predominance of mass Stalinism (in the shape of the Communist Party and then Trotskyism) for many decades in the 20th Century to the left of Labor/Social Democratic Parties. For a discussion of these issues see on our website www.rebelworker.org and on A-infos Review of Unruly Equality:US Anarchism in the 20th Century by Andrew Cornell in RW Vol.34 No.2 (226)July-Aug. 2016. Check out other reviews in other editions on our web site. Below (1)is an example of this problem we face in the Anglo-World - a grouping which claims to be Anarchist in Sydney but is heavily influenced by the Stalinist Legacy - and composed mainly of these middle class elements often with university jobs and students (Universities here ooze with identity politics) (See Report on the Workers Control Conference on the Archive Section of our Web Site which discusses these layers outlook re capitalism) and has become a full on 'cult' with a cult 'guru' see also on A-infos and our web site Obituary: Jack Grancharoff 1925 - 2016 . RW Vol.34 No.2 (226) July-Aug 2016. I think in the Philippines you may have some of these problems. You would need to look at semi clandestine organisation as well and the need for security checking - but the internet can be a great help. Also you need to get your own printing set up going and national and industry papers/flyers when necessary going. Initially the thing is to hit the books or pay a terrible price later on!!!

(1) (en) Australia, Feminism & Class Struggle - A Document is Distributed.

From Rebel Worker
Date Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:00:06 +0200 (CEST)

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An Attempt to begin a Critical Discussion on Feminism and its Relationship to Class Struggle.
A document was distributed within the Jura milieu some time
ago, dated April 17 [2004], and entitled, The meeting was a
‘joint’ meeting of Anarchist Resources Incorporated
members and those of the Jura Books Collective, with visitors. It
comprised the minutes of a meeting and contained, amongst
other things, the following agenda item:
7. General discussion of Jura’s position re Feminism.
Mark left the meeting at this point.
1. Motion: "That Jura acknowledges that over the past several
years, Jura has not taken up feminist issues. Further, that Jura
reaffirms that we believe

o that women’s oppression exists, and,

o that it forms a major obstacle to working class revolution
and therefore, Jura is dedicated to engage in debate and struggle
against women’s oppression."

Moved: Annette, Seconded: Nick – Carried.

1. Motion: "That if any member is opposed to Jura’s
position on

women’s oppression, that he/she raise this at a Jura
meeting where we can revisit the issue. This way, Jura forums
can proceed without obstruction by having to revisit this
question."

Moved: Annette, Seconded: Sid – Carried.

2. Motion: "That Jura membership be contingent on
willingness to

engage in comradely debate. That issues be raised in a timely and

appropriate manner, and discussed calmly and respectfully."

Moved: Annette, Seconded: Sid – Carried.

The contents of this agenda item have given me some cause for
concern:

o Assertions are presented as facts;

o Feminism is assumed to be the ‘remedy’ for
"women’s oppression" not socialism;

o So-called women’s oppression is assumed to be an
obstacle to "working class revolution";

o The prescriptions in sub-item (ii) are authoritarian in
content, their intention seemingly being to stifle critical
argument;

o The ‘advice’ given in sub-item (iii) is pure
hypocrisy in the light of my previous experience at an attempt to
engage in serious critical public debate on an important political
matter with the Love-and-Rage sub-group that’s now a part
of Jura. On that occasion Love-and-Rage demonstrated not only
a reluctance to avoid "comradely debate", but to avoid any debate
at all, instead, deputing one particularly garrulous individual from
the outer limits of the Love-and-Rage milieu to try to do a
hatchet job on my arguments – with no success, it must be
said, because the individual concerned had little command of his
subject. And while this person was making a fool of himself
demonstrating his ignorance, the rest of the Love-and-Rage
sub-group stood by, mute. Did they not wish to test the validity of
their ideas in argument?

Anarcho-Stalinism??

Perhaps of greatest concern in item 7 above, particularly evident
in sub-item (i) (and reminiscent of Stalinist political practice at its
worst), is the effort to transform politically expedient notions into
a ‘hard facts’ by simple administrative means, that is, by
declaring these notions to be facts merely through group
agreement, rather than by doing the necessary intellectual work
in order to prove that they are indeed facts. (Might I point out at
this stage that in working class theory [historical materialism]
once a notion is established as a ‘fact’ it does not
necessarily remain a fact forever. It must be reproved and
reproved indefinitely, as its social context develops and changes,
and as more facts come to light with the march of time. Such is
the nature of scientific development.) But the Love-and-Rage
milieu, in attempting to stifle criticism of their crypto-sacred
notions, is precluding the possibility for their ideas to develop
in a positive direction vis-a-vis the class struggle as a result of
any valid criticism they might attract. This is an inward-looking
and authoritarian attitude to be adopting that can only result in
the development of a Love-and-Rage orthodoxy that will be of
little use for anything other than maintaining a group identity for
Love-and-Rage initiates.

Stalin and Lysenko deceived themselves and the entire Marxist-Leninist
world with their particular shibboleth, a bizarre sort of ‘social
Lamarkism’, and did so in comfortable defiance of all known evidence of
the day. Their shibboleth remained impervious to criticism because it
didn’t get any. Lysenkoism was declared by the Party to be
scientifically valid despite the fact that experimentally it was
demonstrated to be pure nonsense. The Love-and-Rage sub-group, by
seeking to enshrine Feminism as a crypto-sacred practice in a Jura
‘constitution’, and by wanting to avoid all criticism and scrutiny of
it, is doing a very similar thing.

Truth Must Prevail.

In the interests of truth, out of which comes workable and valid
political practice, feminist ideology (indeed, all ideology) must be
subjected to close and critical scrutiny. Who knows? One may find that
feminism is not a necessary precondition to working class revolution, as
Love-and-Rage believes. One may even find that it is not capable of
‘liberating’ women in any socialist sense whatsoever. It may be
discovered that feminism is nothing more than one of the ideological
forms that capitalist society adopts at a particular stage in its
development. Indeed, the demands of full employment in the 1960s
required an expansion of the market in labour power that was met by
women. Unprecedentedly large numbers of women were going through the
universities. The times were propitious for ideologies of ‘women’s
liberation’ to begin cropping up. Feminism thus walked hand-in-hand with
capitalism’s need to draw women more deeply into capitalist relations of
production. If there’s something positive in all this it’s that working
class women became proletarianised. Middle class women just became their
bosses.

Feminism and Socialism are Two Different Things.

Feminism began its development by sections of the liberal bourgeoisie in
response to some of capitalism’s more obvious economic and social
contradictions at the end of the nineteenth century and the beginning of
the twentieth, and received a particularly big boost in its development
in the 1960s and ‘70s. But there never was anything in feminism that
challenged capitalist economic exploitation in any substantive way; it
was only ever concerned with the position of women within capitalist
society. Most feminist theories have left criticism of capitalism
untouched or have blamed men and male behaviour for capitalism’s
oppressive features. Feminism’s logical underpinnings – understanding
men and supposedly innate male behaviour as being central to the
creation of social problems – create a competing paradigm for class
struggle theory and therefore have the potential to confuse people and
divert their activity into reformist or reactionary ‘gender struggles’,
when the sensible thing is to help fight the bosses and capitalism.
Workers may become confused and disillusioned and drop out of struggle
altogether.

Only Socialism Will Liberate Women … and Men.

If one chooses to fight the class struggle, that is, to fight for
socialism, it doesn’t mean that one gives up on any sex inequality that
might exist. The struggle for socialism, being a struggle by the working
class for control over the means of production from the existing rulers
necessarily involves the struggle against all forms of exploitation and
oppression that arise out of capitalist production relations. It cannot
be otherwise. Advanced elements of the socialist movement historically
have always supported the economic independence of working class women
through their incorporation in capitalist labour markets as a step
towards increasing the ranks of the organised workers. When working
class women engage in work for a boss and for wages they become socially
empowered and proletarianised, and develop the potential to take part in
the struggle against capitalism as active, conscious members of the
organised working class.

An eventual consequence of the struggle for socialism is the complete
disappearance of social classes and all social distinctions. But this
can be achieved only if the struggle becomes a unitary struggle, that
is, provided that the working class learns to unite itself
organisationally and develops methods in the process of fighting the
bourgeoisie that successfully bring about workers’ control and
self-emancipation of the whole class. The various ideologies of Identity
Politics, however, of which feminism is but one, exhibit a definite
tendency to disunite the working class, to denigrate class struggle, and
to send people up all sorts of ideological blind alleys.

"Women’s oppression is an obstacle to Working Class Revolution", say
Love-and-Rage in unison. "Nonsense", is the retort of the Syndicalists.

A most curious claim is made in sub-item (i) above that asserts that
"women’s oppression" [undefined] "forms a major obstacle to working
class revolution [undefined] and therefore, Jura [should be] dedicated
to engage in debate and struggle against women’s oppression." In other
words, Love-and-Rage believes that before socialist revolution is
possible, women’s oppression must be ‘eliminated’. To extrapolate, the
primary struggle should be against "women’s oppression" not the bosses.
If Love-and-Rage members seriously believe this – the motion was carried
so at least a majority must have voted for it – then Love-and-Rage
doesn’t understand much about socialist revolution or capitalism.
Capitalism is a system of uneven development – uneven economic
development, uneven social development, uneven ideological development –
and it is inherently so because its economic dynamics drive it in this
way. All manner of social inequality is a permanent feature of
capitalism. To assume that somehow "women’s oppression" can be
eliminated within capitalism and then we can all go on to fight the
class struggle is naïve nonsense. It’s not possible to get rid of social
inequality within capitalism because the system is based on social
inequality, thrives on social inequality.

I Boldly Venture a Definition of What Constitutes Revolutionary Activity
in the Current Australian Context.

If one wishes to eliminate social inequality and the system that
produces it, one must take part in socialist struggles, revolutionary
socialist struggles. To clarify this, I’ll venture a definition of
‘revolutionary’, a definition that arguably is consistent with the
libertarian syndicalist outlook of the ASN / Rebel Worker milieu: A
revolutionary action is one in which organised workers, win some degree
of social power away from the bourgeoisie, and do so consciously knowing
they have done this. This may occur to greater or lesser degrees, that
is, it may occur piecemeal, workplace-by-workplace, region-by-region
over a protracted period of time (years, decades), or it may occur
quickly (in a few months or a few years). One vital element, however,
must be present in order to give an act the quality of being a
revolutionary socialist act – its participants must be conscious of the
fact that they are actively taking social power away from the
bourgeoisie and appropriating it for the working class as a whole, and
that the historical outcome of the aggregate of all these acts at all
places where the bourgeoisie holds power is socialism, classless society.

But in order that workers get to this advanced state of revolutionary
class consciousness, they must go through a learning process. They must
pass from being atomised unorganised workers who are completely
subordinated to the needs of the boss and who generally have a
consciousness that’s subservient to the needs of capitalism, to becoming
organised trade unionists who possess a sectional, corporatist
consciousness, to becoming organised syndicalists with an ever-present
consciousness of their revolutionary potential and utilising that
potential to win more and more power away from the bosses whenever they
can and defending all their previous victories.

Participation in active class struggle and the drawing of theoretical
lessons from this participation is the learning process workers must go
through in order to develop a successful revolutionary practice. I agree
entirely with Karl Marx when he said in 1869 to a group of metal workers
that "trade unions are the schools of socialism" because "in trade
unions … workers educate themselves and become socialists, because under
their very eyes and every day the struggle with capital is taking place."

The ASN / Rebel Worker / Sparks / Fast Lane milieu is engaging in work
that is objectively revolutionary. We are patiently and consistently
doing the ‘unglamorous’ and ‘unspectacular’ work of assisting workers to
develop self-activity in their trade union activism and an advanced
trade union consciousness. The contradictions inherent in traditional
trade union practice and consciousness will be recognised by these
workers as they engage in more and more struggle and develop a higher
class consciousness. The possibility of developing a syndicalist
consciousness, and then moving through to a revolutionary syndicalist
and socialist consciousness and practice will then be possible.

Feminism is Bourgeois Ideology.

Feminism does not fit into a revolutionary socialist schema at all.
Participation in feminist ‘struggles’ confines one to the bourgeois
arena of struggle. Feminism represents merely one aspect of the mad
scramble for the distribution and redistribution of power, privilege and
resources within the capitalist system by all manner of sectional
bourgeois interests. At best it is a reformist activity that broadens
economic and civic participation for bourgeois females.

For those Love-and-Ragers who entertain the theory that feminism is a
prerequisite to socialism I’d like to ask a few questions. How does one
know when one’s feminist struggles are completed and one is ready to
proceed onto socialist struggles? Does it mean that for every Mr Kerry
Packer there must also be a Ms Kerrie Packer? Does it mean that for all
male homeless persons there must be an equivalent number of female
homeless persons? An equal number of heroin-addicted female and male
prostitutes? An equal number of male and female riggers on the Harbour
Bridge? How does the feminist know when his or her work is done so that
he or she may get on with the class struggle?

Socialism is Working Class Science.

I cannot finish without pointing out that, since socialism is a science,
socialists should be concerned to use correct terminology when analysing
social phenomena so that they achieve a precision of expression and
thereby avoid confusing people. Over the decades bourgeois mass culture
has appropriated terms such as ‘racism’, ‘sexism’, ‘feminism’,
‘genocide’, and others, deprived them of their original scientific
meanings, and created much confusion as to what these terms actually
mean. In the vernacular of today’s mass bourgeois society ‘feminism’ has
come to mean anything from ‘equal rights’ and ‘equal access’ for women,
to a philosophy of female essentialism posed against male essentialism,
to the actual struggles for women’s ‘equality’ within bourgeois society.
Socialists who declare themselves to be opposed to feminism are often
thought to be somehow anti-woman by those whose minds have been confused
by bourgeois mass culture.

Socialism, however, has nothing to do with being anti-woman. While it is
opposed to doctrines of female and male essentialism, it is supportive
of struggles for female political, social and economic independence. The
latter struggles, however, when they occur outside of the context of
struggle for workers’ control, for socialism, are just another form of
reformist activity within bourgeois society, no matter how radical they
may appear, and play no direct part in the transition to socialism.
Socialism, by definition, necessarily incorporates the struggle for
working class women’s political, economic and social liberation as an
integral part of the overall struggle for workers’ control and
socialism. The ‘woman question’ in the socialist context is bound up
with the struggle for workers’ control and socialism in which male and
female workers are equally involved; it is not separate from the
struggle for socialism.

But enough of my analysing and theorising for the latter are, according
to feminist theory, thoroughly male discourses and deserving only of
contempt.

R Totale

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by R Totale on February 6, 2020

I'm not an expert on the Philippines by any means, but is it relatively easy for you to establish contact with comrades in Indonesia? The movement there seems reasonably well-established, so people there might be better placed to lend a hand. I think I have also heard talk of a loose network connecting comrades across southeast Asia, but I'm not sure if that exists in any open or public-facing form at the moment.

kasama_libsoc

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 6, 2020

Hmm those seem like things we could follow up on. Thanks. Though Indonesia is as distant to us as Italy is to the UK, so it's like UK anarchists asking Italians for help. That's how vast the South East Asia is.

kasama_libsoc

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 6, 2020

Thanks asn, your first paragraph was informative and we do plan to set up a zine and publish pamphlets. But you lost me on the stuff after the first paragraph. What am I to do with that info?

rat

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by rat on February 6, 2020

Hi kasama_libsoc,
It may sound a bit hardline or 'purist' or something like that, but, one thing that I think you would need to establish is a basic set of aims & principles. If you want to set up an anarchist communist or libertarian communist federation, then life will be made easier for you if you set out the basic political positions straight away. Otherwise, your organisation will likely run into problems as contradictory ideas within the group will make it more difficult to decide on actions, the content of your publications, even just short leaflets. Check the Aims & Principles sections on the websites of the Anarchist Communist Group, Anarchist Federation or Solidarity Federation for potentially useful examples. You should also have members pay some money each into an account so that you have a fund for printing and even helping comrades travel long distances when you meet-up in real life.
Once you have a few members, could set-up communications between individuals via Wire or WhatsApp.

R Totale

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by R Totale on February 6, 2020

I don't know if this is any more helpful, but looking to the north I suppose that there's certainly been a lot going on in Hong Kong recently, and there have been some texts produced and things by anarchists involved in the revolt there. And I know it's even further away, but I think some Australian anarchists such as the Anarcho-Syndicalist Federation have been involved in providing some support to the Indonesian movement. I'm not sure if there's much practical they can do from such a distance, but I'm sure that there's some Australian groups who would be happy to provide whatever help they can, although the Australian milieu does also seem to have its fair share of strange and off-putting feuds and grudges.

Salvoechea

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by Salvoechea on February 6, 2020

You can begin with setting up some blog stating your aims & principles as rat suggests. I read somewhere that Lenin wrote a manual to set up an organisation called What is to be done

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/v.htm

He said some interesting points like:

“A newspaper is not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, it is also a collective organiser. In this respect it may be compared to the scaffolding erected round a building under construction; it marks the contours of the structure and facilitates communication between the builders, permitting them to distribute the work and to view the common results achieved by their organised labour"

When you have something to say, try to have a paper.

If you can read spanish I recomend to keep an eye in another communist, Martha Harnecker. She left a nice manual to create organisations:

http://archivo.juventudes.org/textos/Marta%20Harnecker/El%20partido.%20su%20organizacion.pdf

Uruguayan FAU "translated" that marxist methodology into the libertarian tradition
https://blackrosefed.org/huerta-grande/

Good luck!

Reddebrek

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by Reddebrek on February 7, 2020

What is to be done was written at a time when the Russian underground was already very numerous, entrenched and organised, and was less about building a libertarian collective and more about building Lenin's desired version of the social democratic party. I don't think its very applicable to the situation kasama is describing.

I also think starting a newspaper is the worst thing a small group could do as its a massive undertaking and will eat up any resources and time and energy. Iskra for example was only possible because it was built off the backs of a movement that numbered in the thousands and had already established itself throughout much of Europe.

Kasama I would echo that its worth establishing at least a minimum "things we believe statement" of some kind to start, its always possible to revise it later and make contact with other groups, I remember reading the Indonesian anarchists were talking about building a regional network and having some success reaching out to others. Annoyingly I don't remember where I read it or I would link it.

kasama_libsoc

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 7, 2020

Thanks rat,

We have a draft points of unity actually with aims and principles.

kasama_libsoc

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 7, 2020

Reddebrek,

We plan to set up a zine and blog and use it as a platform for propaganda. We also plan to print pamphlets for distribution. Is this really a bad idea? What ought we do instead?

asn

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by asn on February 7, 2020

re the info provided I suggest you read the articles I referred to on our web site - it may throw light on problems you may face in creating organisations and activity - also what I was getting at is that you can have what look like anarchist groups on the surface in the Anglo World with their statements of principles and are supposedly about the overthrow of capitalism/the state etc but in reality no one in the group actually believes a word of it (we have this situation in Australia - sure its a sad situation and seems weird but its a reality) - its all about mainly excuses for social occasions for those in the group and those in the group/federation can get up to a lot of anti anarchist stuff associated with the Stalinist tradition - brazen lying, deceitfulness/stand over tactics etc. The same sort of stuff which goes on in many churches/parties.
Once you have clarified your ideas on things, The newspaper is a very good idea. In the early 20th Century - there was a saying in Brazil when 3 anarchists meet - they start a newspaper. Yes its a lot of work - but if forces you to get people involved in various ways to help out and opens various doors. Say you get workers in an important sector contributing via interviews to your paper and distroing it on the job or you do it - this later on can open the door to launching a work place paper in the sector which can have a massive impact say leading to big strikes and you can have many in the sector helping out in various ways. It forces you to get your own printing set up going - acquiring premises, acquiring equipment, etc. This is very important in cutting costs for printing material obviously but also you can rapidly put out say a flyer calling for say a strike with the workers you get involved via your newspaper and workplace paper. We did something like that here in Sydney in Sept, 2014 in the railways and came close to getting major industrial action going, The union officials were forced to hold an immediate mass meeting at Central Station to head it off. For many years they said they would never call a mass meeting again;

Mike Harman

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by Mike Harman on February 7, 2020

I would really recommend reading Hal Draper and/or other critiques of and alternatives to membership organisations prior to setting one up. asn is offering advice along similar lines.

Draper was in the process of breaking with Trotskyism in the mid-late '60s and wrote an analysis of what he thought was wrong with the US groups around at the time. The analysis does apply a fair bit to most 'political membership groups' though.

Draper's alternatives (ironically from reading Lenin) were twofold:

1. Workplace and neighbourhood organisation
2. 'Political centres'

Political centre just means a newspaper, or a website, or a journal, but one which tries to be useful even to people who don't agree with the specific 'line' of the people producing it. Something which potentially a lot of people can read or contribute to, even if they don't agree with enough to join. (for example that happens with libcom - people use the site and contribute to it even when they have quite strong disagreements with us admins on certain points).

https://libcom.org/library/anatomy-micro-sect-hal-draper

https://libcom.org/library/alternative-micro-sect-hal-draper

I don't know the situation in the Philippines to be able to give specific advice, but you can see this kind of approach with the French Mutu network, which set up local news sources at the city level in France which incorporate various local groups editorially. Two articles we wrote about Mutu here:

https://libcom.org/library/mutu-rethinking-our-radical-media

https://libcom.org/blog/mutu-network-revival-french-radical-media-18062018

Even if you end up deciding a national membership organisation is the way to go hopefully this helps identify some problems to try to avoid.

kasama_libsoc

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 7, 2020

Thanks asn, yeah we do want to enter into printing our zines and later on publishing historical and original pamphlets.

Mike Harman, yeah after our publishing phase we do might want to get into urban and labor organizing. I wonder also if we can integrate the "political center" idea into our publishing efforts.

R Totale

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by R Totale on February 7, 2020

If you do decide to produce a publication, I'd suggest it's worth thinking about who your target audience is. There's an interview on here with someone who was involved with a workplace group at McDonald's, and this bit always stuck with me:
"That’s why I don’t understand the habit of producing leaflets for ‘the public’, you know? Make it specific. A leaflet for ‘food workers’ isn’t much use I’d suggest. A leaflet for bakers is better. A leaflet for your bakery is better still. And a leaflet for your bakery about the new procedure that started that week? Well then you might be getting somewhere." (From https://libcom.org/library/interview-with-mcdonalds-workers-resistance )

Similarly, I'd say that it's better to have a group with a wide variety of membership from across the class than one that's just students or people from one subculture, but if that is where you're starting from, it might be better to have a good student group with a real focus on student issue, or even just a really good subcultural project that's honest and realistic about its limitations, rather than one that sort of tries to speak to, or worse still for, everyone, and ends up not saying that much. Although I have no idea about your situation, so feel free to ignore that if actually none of you are students or punks.

Also, this might be super obvious, but have you tried checking the "organise" section on here? There's a lot of guides and stuff in there.

Reddebrek

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by Reddebrek on February 7, 2020

kasama_libsoc

Reddebrek,

We plan to set up a zine and blog and use it as a platform for propaganda. We also plan to print pamphlets for distribution. Is this really a bad idea? What ought we do instead?

Zines blogs and pamphlets are fine. But they're nothing like the requirements needed for a newspaper which was what I was responding to.

syndicalist

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by syndicalist on February 8, 2020

Back to this when I have a chance.

Is this anarchosyndicalist that Mike Harris knows?

kasama_libsoc

4 years 9 months ago

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Submitted by kasama_libsoc on February 9, 2020

R Totale, thanks. Those are considerations we haven't considered yet.
Yeah we did check out the organize section of this site.

Reddebrek, ah alright. We'll keep that in mind.