This is an ongoing, open space for anyone to characterise the participants of Libcom, including oneself. Soory if anyone feels left out—Battlescarred,...—but for obvious reason we stopped at twelve. Far be it for us to blaspheme against the First Man of the Libcom Collective, its Iesu Kristos, JK.
westarfromhere — self-righteous, "crackpot", "mystic farmer", 'Khmer ["One who is wholesome"] Situationism: for a society without spectacles.'
fozzie — Haussmann
adri — Marxist-Engelist
steven — red fascist union, "wanker"
darren p — fawn of academic communism
Craftwork — Labourist
Fleur — jackboot
samfanto — absentist (the Absentist does not truly feel that nothing in the universe is good, but rather that neither of the two conventionally offered possibilities for virtue are good, and that there must be some kind of alternative.)
Indo — fetishist of KAPD
Red Marriott — nice fellah
Alf — Assisi
factvalue — account erased by management
factvalue wrote: Serge Forward
When Jews were sent to the gas chambers by the Nazis, this was not on the basis of their religious belief.
On what (real) basis then?
Rest in peace auldbold
I was thinking "mystic…
I was thinking "mystic farmer" for you, but self-righteous crackpot also works.
I prefer Khmer Situationism:…
I prefer Khmer Situationism: for a society without spectacles. 👓
Craftwork wrote:...for a…
Although most perceptive of you, Crafty, my major concern—having been partially blinded in my right eye (anyone know why one eye should be affected and not the other?) by mobile phone use—are these little blue screens. The two modern conveniences are interconnected, as my blindness resulted from a visit to the optician, who advised against prolonged use of blue light emitting devices, and to keep such devices at a good distance. Both points of his advice I subconsciously contravened on a Saturday morning in bed. My only comfort is the one of my flesh, yourselves, and the words of masiah:
Appreciate your perceptive…
Much appreciate your perceptive mystic farmer comment too, adri. What is not appreciated is a tendency, I perceive, for two personages to be combined in one, after the habit of the Christian doctrine that amalgamates three in one. Perhaps you, and the Church, are right, and are merely reconciling self-affirmation and objectification? Yet, shouldn't the holy Trinity, and Duality, be admitted of its female aspect, Menen, Mary and Lizzie, Helene and Jenny? Be made whole.
Syndicalist - I am who I am.
Syndicalist - I am who I am.
syndicalist wrote:…
Syndicalist: does what is says on the tin.
westartfromhere wrote:…
Not meaning to dominate you intellectually, but common sense told me, Yes, most people have one dominant eye, meaning their brain primarily relies on the visual input from one eye over the other, similar to how we have a dominant hand (left or right) for most tasks; this is a normal trait and is often referred to as "ocular dominance".
syndicalist wrote:…
Surely, the syndicalist is, I am because we are.
What's the tin? The toilet?…
What's the tin? Seemingly an over the pond expression.
*rolls eyes* these Americans…
*rolls eyes* these Americans... It means 'what you see is what you get'. You better get with the programmmeee syndicalist, or else we're sending you to Coventry.
syndicalist wrote: What's…
lol, it’s the slogan for fence paint. This thread, and the many many others like it, are my worst fears of what anarcho society would be. It’d do your fucking head in.
An anarchical society…
An anarchical society mediated through the World Wide Web is merely another appendage to capital: a part of the new digital order. Long will live Order!
Still, the echoes of an ancient communism reverberate through the fibre.
Coventry used to have a…
Coventry used to have a militant workers tradition, if I recall.
Thanks for clueing me in everyone. And indeed, the tin is right
Whatever happened to Joseph…
Whatever happened to Joseph Kay? They used to post a whole bunch
He was brutally murdered…
edit: Removing my reference to Kafka's Trial after realizing that something might have actually happened to him... I had also noticed that he stopped posting on twitter around 2019 and that he wasn't listed on this collective statement. I certainly hope he's doing alright. I thought the Out of the Woods articles (and book) were great stuff.
syndicalist wrote: Coventry…
Still has. Tradition is passed on, 'Man's Immortality Lives in His Progeny Memories!'
Perhaps we can raise him from the dead (bourgie circle of friends)?
syndicalist wrote: Whatever…
Forums are dead, so very few of those that used to post here frequently don't anymore (me included, I just lurk these days).
Khawaga wrote: syndicalist…
I actually miss the forums.
I think we are agreed on the…
Joseph Kay, libcom.org responds
We do not want you to share our "socially necessary menial tasks", i.e. productive wage labour, "in an egalitarian manner". We are the working class, and it is labour that defines our class, and it is on this basis that we are imposing our dictatorship over you.
Unlike Herr Engels and Mr Kay, we are unprincipled.
Forums are dead, so very few…
I'm not sure if Kay's vanishing is just because people don't use the libcom forum as much as they used to. I don't guess it's any of our business really, but he sort of completely disappeared it seems around 2019 (here's his twitter). I guess someone could reach out to one of the Out of the Woods people to see what happened.
syndicalist wrote: Khawaga…
Me too.
I mostly remember the forums…
I mostly remember the forums as being a cesspit.
There was some pretty…
There was some pretty horrible stuff in the old threads if you went back and read them. But at the same time forums on here and other places were a great source of information and an education in the noughties. As well as being places where I picked up a few friends.
Yes, they were cesspits, but…
Yes, they were cesspits, but as Fozzie says, a great source of info and education. It's the latter I miss, but still, warts and all.
I thought it a big missed…
I thought it a big missed opportunity. Loads of great stuff on the site and there were decent people on the forums. But it's still mostly it being a cesspit I remember.
Oh, I know people were…
Oh, I know people were turned off libcom due to the nastiness of the forums. They did improve considerably, but IIRC that was right before people migrated their discussions to Facebook.
Still remember the first…
Still remember the first words that I read of yours, Khawaga, directed to the Collective, with reference to a commentor critical of a Joseph Kay blog, "We've got a live one here"— follower of the Way in a pit of hungry lions. More Roman amphitheatre than cesspit.
To what and to whom, readers may discern themselves.
These discussion forums certainly set one up for the World Wide Web, this nest of vipers.
I read Bookchin’s Social…
I read Bookchin’s Social Anarchism or Lifestyle Anarchism the other day and realised how influential it was on the forums. Exact same snidey way of talking to people who were ‘wrong’.
Probably a good time to revive it, it’s not like there’s competition and social media is on death’s door.
It seems nobody wants to…
It seems nobody wants to address the fact that hundreds of old threads are no longer accessible. They don’t show up in any search. It looks like they have been deleted forever.
Agent of the International…
Search engines will show some threads that don’t appear in the internal search. Besides, don’t you want to abolish the past and create the future? Imagine the new permutations of arguments to be had now.
I have searched by both the…
I have searched by both the internal search and by using google search, and still hundreds, maybe thousands of threads are missing. Also, new discussions can’t recreate all the valuable discussions that took place in those old threads. This forum had incredible posters whose contributions meant a lot to me. Now, I can’t find those posts. New discussions threads nowadays can’t come close due to the lack of posters willing to participate.
Agent of the International…
Deleted threads; deleted comments; deleted articles; nullified user accounts... It is theft of the producers' own intellectual property, pure and simple.
Also, by removing the ability for users of the site to trace their activity, as was possible on the previous format, only the administrators—the effective owners of the site—retain that function. The function of Private Messaging other users was also removed. It does beg the question, Who do these changes—this new permutation—benefit? Certainly not the common user of the site.
Perhaps these changes have had a positive effect of traffic on the site, but as no traffic reports are any longer forthcoming, who knows?
The worst danger is never the determined opponent, but one’s own compromise.
Who can forget those long…
Who can forget those long forum posts by that one ex-ICCer who alleged the ICC raided his home and took back their mimeograph machines or whatever they were lol?
The discussions that spring…
The discussions that spring up first in my memory are of those between the advocates of progress, apologist for the capitalist catastrophe, and those of regression, the primitivists, the ignorant romanticist. Don't recall a third voice, of the realists, in those debates. Here is an example of the inability of the progressive to distinguish between the tool and the machine, and the reason for being of each, usefulness and exchangeability, respectively:
If anyone cares to follow this link, undoubtedly they will find an example of the primitivist's ignorance of the actual communalist society that predated the young pup, so-called civilisation, i.e. Asiatic class society.
Craftwork wrote: Who can…
Mad as a box of frogs the ICC
https://libcom.org/history/open-letter-international-communist-current
I seem to remember they went very quiet when Ingram started posting here.
nastyned wrote: Mad as a …
I only know the ICC on this site. Alf never struck me as mad. Never claimed to be the daughter of Henry VIII, or such like. Perhaps you should address your accusations to him?
The "logic of the asylum" (Ingram) is that the lunatics take over. Perhaps Ingram prefers the purveyors of Persian rugs over the anarchy that oftentimes holds sway on the wards?
The ICC were pretty big on…
The ICC were pretty big on the nonsensical idea of a semi-State.
Agent of the International…
Nonsense, fine, but don't belittle the suffering of the victims of psychiatric oppression with slurs like "barmy", "mad", "crackpot"... Please