Laurens Otter Memoirs

Submitted by Mair Waring on March 25, 2022

Does anybody have a file of this they could upload? Or a physical copy they could scan or send to an anarchist archive like the Sparrows Nest?

It was originally on his website but now that is down. It was called "The accidental making of an anarchist".

He was involved in the peace, anarchist and syndicalist movements, and I think his memoirs would be very important in terms of radical history.

Steven.

2 years ago

Submitted by Steven. on March 25, 2022

Do you have the old web address? Could it still be reached on the way back machine?

Fozzie

2 years ago

Submitted by Fozzie on March 25, 2022

According to this,

https://robertgraham.wordpress.com/2016/10/30/laurens-otter-nuclear-weapons-and-the-permanent-war-economy/

It was here

https://oldredfogey.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/the-accidental-making-of-an-anarchist.pdf

Fozzie

2 years ago

Submitted by Fozzie on March 25, 2022

Doesn’t seem to be on the archive.org way back machine alas.

Mair Waring

2 years ago

Submitted by Mair Waring on March 25, 2022

Yeah, I was mainly hoping someone might have the file saved, or have printed a copy off.

Submitted by Steven. on March 25, 2022

Mair Waring wrote: Yeah, I was mainly hoping someone might have the file saved, or have printed a copy off.

This website mentioned it: https://poeticslist.chicagoschoolofpoetics.com/2016/11/the-otter-memoir/
Why don't you send an email or contact the owners of this website to ask if they still have their PDF copy?
Would be great if someone could upload it here to our library if/when we managed to get hold of it

Mair Waring

1 year 11 months ago

Submitted by Mair Waring on May 19, 2022

Thanks Fozzie :)

I originally got it from the CIRA and sent it to Sparrows Nest.

Only mentioning this because while looking for it I found it was purposefully not put on Libcom and that Laurens did not want it on Libcom. I think a link like above is fine, just that is why I have not uploaded it as its own post.

Fozzie

1 year 11 months ago

Submitted by Fozzie on May 19, 2022

Thanks Mair. Did you find out why he didn’t want it here?

Mair Waring

1 year 11 months ago

Submitted by Mair Waring on May 19, 2022

No, sorry. I got the impression that he fell out with quite a few people.

Also this was a long time ago and Libcom may have had a different reputation than what it does now.

Fozzie

1 year 11 months ago

Submitted by Fozzie on May 19, 2022

No worries! If I had to guess it would be the somewhat abrasive discussion forums in the early days, which I think put a lot of people off.

Mair Waring

1 year 11 months ago

Submitted by Mair Waring on May 19, 2022

Yeah. I think he may also have been friendly/involved with the Northern Anarchist Network (which is associated with Northern Voices?). And they seemed to fall out with most of the anarchist movement in the UK.

Submitted by Steven. on May 22, 2022

Mair Waring wrote: No, sorry. I got the impression that he fell out with quite a few people.

Also this was a long time ago and Libcom may have had a different reputation than what it does now.

It's quite possible he didn't like us, but probably worth pointing out that none of us have any idea who he was, and pretty sure none of us have ever had any dealings with him (unless he registered an account here under an assumed name at some point past, but given what people of said about him, that seems doubtful)

Spikymike

1 year 10 months ago

Submitted by Spikymike on May 24, 2022

The long text that Fozzie has linked from the Sparrows nest archive is is a real treasure trove of peoples names from a long period of overlapping left-wing, anarchist and particularly peace activism that those of us who are still around from much of that period will recognise. I only met Laurens for a short time in an earlier (less troublesome) phase of the now defunct Northern Anarchist Network. I remember him as an affable welcoming person even if our respective politics were at some distance. Can't vouch for the accuracy of everything in that document even if it sounds familiar.