i dont know if any of u old school anarchist remember me.. but yea..
communism has rules..
anarchy is freedom ABSOLUTE FREEDOM!!
Maybe this is a joke, but I thought I'd have a bash nevertheless.
What do you mean by "absolute freedom"? Do you mean absolute in terms of everyone being free or absolute in terms of it beingn unlimited. Because you can never have either. You can never have "absolute" freedom. It will be restricted one way or another.
For example, if we have unlimited freedom, that would imply that people were free to stop the freedom of others, meaning not everyone would be free and therefore there would be no absolute freedom. The alternative is to say that everyone can be free providing they do not encroach on the freedom of others but then that would mean freedom is limited and not absolute.
well i mean in everyone being free... without restriction
do u realise that everything that is evil comes from govs. and you are claimin communism.. communism is a distatorship not anarchy.... im sorry joe... but it aint... i went to jail for bulshit charges... where i was abused by people for my beleifs.. that is where i learned about the real govs. how we are all assets to them.. expendible assets.. wars... poverty.. everything evil... if people could get past the concept of need... we could be free... u ask me if this is a joke.. no it is not.. i left the forums becuase i went to jail... a old friend of mine reminded me of my duty as a anarchist to remind everyone what anarchy is... and yes u could have absolute freedom... if people could forget all of the brainwashin the govs. do.. anyways... yea... thanks for letting me explain it..
I’m really enjoying your posts. I hope you don’t think I’m baiting you for the sake of it by asking these next questions; I’m genuinely interested in your insights, and more than a little sympathetic towards your perspective.
Would you describe yourself as an anti-communist? If so, do you prescribe any particular action to be taken against communists in the aftermath of the revolution, would you perhaps kill them or lock them up?
i am a anarchist. a lover of all people.. i am repective of others believes.. i am anti gov.. they put lies in peoples minds.. anarchy is not chaos.. anarchy is freedom for all... i am also a decent human being.. i would never kill anyone.. even if i was going to be killed if i didnt kill them.. i would die for anarchy... i would take no action against the communist... they will get their own in time.. so will the rest of the capitalist and the other govs of the world
How exactly? You just gonna sit back and wait for "absolute freedom!!1" to come? Plus, you didn't really answer Joe's point - a scenario "without restriction" is not one of freedom. Freedom can only exist where your right to do what you want to do takes into account the rights of others.
well i mean in everyone being free... without restriction
do u realise that everything that is evil comes from govs. and you are claimin communism.. communism is a distatorship not anarchy.... im sorry joe... but it aint... i went to jail for bulshit charges... where i was abused by people for my beleifs.. that is where i learned about the real govs. how we are all assets to them.. expendible assets.. wars... poverty.. everything evil... if people could get past the concept of need... we could be free... u ask me if this is a joke.. no it is not.. i left the forums becuase i went to jail... a old friend of mine reminded me of my duty as a anarchist to remind everyone what anarchy is... and yes u could have absolute freedom... if people could forget all of the brainwashin the govs. do.. anyways... yea... thanks for letting me explain it..
First of all, i'm not sure you really understand what communism is. Communism is a classless, stateless society based on production and distribution need. How is that a "dictatorship."?
Secondly, you didn't really answer my question. If you're taliking about freedom without restriction, then this means that I am free to restrict your freedom, meaning that freedom is not limitless.
Thanks for your earlier post, I think I'm getting the idea. These folks take the position that there is a difference between "Communism" with a big "C" and communism with a little "c". I might need Catch or someone to back me up on this.
I'm sort of thinking that they’re concerned that you associate communism with the authoritarian Communist governments and tendencies that serve to define the term in common parlance.
I’m not sure what profit there is for any of us in labouring over the technicalities.
Shaggy, where do you stand on proposals concerning worker managed businesses and networks of neighbourhood committees? At what point, if any, do you and the anarcho-syndicalists part political company?
Do you see a society without money and property? or do you believe that money is a natural medium of trade and support an individual’s right to their own exclusive property, including land?
I like your style shaggy, I look forward to reading more of your posts.
well i beleive that ppl shouldnt need money.. we should use the borrowing system.
ppl should not have to pay for the basic human needs such as housing food and clothing
it is capitilist bulshit
humans shouldnt own anything. we should all share it.. if we were to eliminate these montrousities. it would be the destruction of control that the gov puts on us.
i see all that anarchy protrays... my cuzin was killed for being a anarchist by a bunch of patriots.. it happened right after 9 11 so yea... i surport his cause and follow in his footsteps.
chris that first question about worker managed buusinesses and network of neighbourhood committees... i think that a worker managed business is a good idea that way we dont have leaders.. leaders are the destruction of freedom..
as for the other part of it... i dont know...
as for the others that i insulted
i am sorry for criticising your political veiws.. i am a anarchist.. thus i shouldnt be criticising your beliefs and for that i am very sorry
well i beleive that ppl shouldnt need money.. we should use the borrowing system.
ppl should not have to pay for the basic human needs such as housing food and clothing
it is capitilist bulshit
humans shouldnt own anything. we should all share it.. if we were to eliminate these montrousities. it would be the destruction of control that the gov puts on us.
True anarchy
awesome, the best poster ever returns! :bb: :mrt: :@: :@: :@:
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life feels complete again.
Re: True anarchy
shaggy_2_dopes
Maybe this is a joke, but I thought I'd have a bash nevertheless.
What do you mean by "absolute freedom"? Do you mean absolute in terms of everyone being free or absolute in terms of it beingn unlimited. Because you can never have either. You can never have "absolute" freedom. It will be restricted one way or another.
For example, if we have unlimited freedom, that would imply that people were free to stop the freedom of others, meaning not everyone would be free and therefore there would be no absolute freedom. The alternative is to say that everyone can be free providing they do not encroach on the freedom of others but then that would mean freedom is limited and not absolute.
True anarchy
well i mean in everyone being free... without restriction
do u realise that everything that is evil comes from govs. and you are claimin communism.. communism is a distatorship not anarchy.... im sorry joe... but it aint... i went to jail for bulshit charges... where i was abused by people for my beleifs.. that is where i learned about the real govs. how we are all assets to them.. expendible assets.. wars... poverty.. everything evil... if people could get past the concept of need... we could be free... u ask me if this is a joke.. no it is not.. i left the forums becuase i went to jail... a old friend of mine reminded me of my duty as a anarchist to remind everyone what anarchy is... and yes u could have absolute freedom... if people could forget all of the brainwashin the govs. do.. anyways... yea... thanks for letting me explain it..
True anarchy
Hi shaggy
I’m really enjoying your posts. I hope you don’t think I’m baiting you for the sake of it by asking these next questions; I’m genuinely interested in your insights, and more than a little sympathetic towards your perspective.
Would you describe yourself as an anti-communist? If so, do you prescribe any particular action to be taken against communists in the aftermath of the revolution, would you perhaps kill them or lock them up?
Lots of love
Chris
True anarchy
well chris..
i am a anarchist. a lover of all people.. i am repective of others believes.. i am anti gov.. they put lies in peoples minds.. anarchy is not chaos.. anarchy is freedom for all... i am also a decent human being.. i would never kill anyone.. even if i was going to be killed if i didnt kill them.. i would die for anarchy... i would take no action against the communist... they will get their own in time.. so will the rest of the capitalist and the other govs of the world
True anarchy
shaggy_2_dopes
How exactly? You just gonna sit back and wait for "absolute freedom!!1" to come? Plus, you didn't really answer Joe's point - a scenario "without restriction" is not one of freedom. Freedom can only exist where your right to do what you want to do takes into account the rights of others.
True anarchy
shaggy_2_dopes
First of all, i'm not sure you really understand what communism is. Communism is a classless, stateless society based on production and distribution need. How is that a "dictatorship."?
Secondly, you didn't really answer my question. If you're taliking about freedom without restriction, then this means that I am free to restrict your freedom, meaning that freedom is not limitless.
True anarchy
.....
lol
joe.
u guys make me sick.. seriously when i left the baords it was anarchy and then i come back and its communism... bah
im dedicated to anarchy..
True anarchy
oh, I must be a communist then...funny, I'd always thought it was
the same thing.
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shaggy_2_dopes
we may not like his message, but how can we doubt the words of someone who is clearly the greatest anarchist since jules bonnot?
True anarchy
Hi shaggy
Thanks for your earlier post, I think I'm getting the idea. These folks take the position that there is a difference between "Communism" with a big "C" and communism with a little "c". I might need Catch or someone to back me up on this.
I'm sort of thinking that they’re concerned that you associate communism with the authoritarian Communist governments and tendencies that serve to define the term in common parlance.
I’m not sure what profit there is for any of us in labouring over the technicalities.
Shaggy, where do you stand on proposals concerning worker managed businesses and networks of neighbourhood committees? At what point, if any, do you and the anarcho-syndicalists part political company?
Do you see a society without money and property? or do you believe that money is a natural medium of trade and support an individual’s right to their own exclusive property, including land?
I like your style shaggy, I look forward to reading more of your posts.
Lots of love
Chris
True anarchy
well i beleive that ppl shouldnt need money.. we should use the borrowing system.
ppl should not have to pay for the basic human needs such as housing food and clothing
it is capitilist bulshit
humans shouldnt own anything. we should all share it.. if we were to eliminate these montrousities. it would be the destruction of control that the gov puts on us.
i see all that anarchy protrays... my cuzin was killed for being a anarchist by a bunch of patriots.. it happened right after 9 11 so yea... i surport his cause and follow in his footsteps.
chris that first question about worker managed buusinesses and network of neighbourhood committees... i think that a worker managed business is a good idea that way we dont have leaders.. leaders are the destruction of freedom..
as for the other part of it... i dont know...
as for the others that i insulted
i am sorry for criticising your political veiws.. i am a anarchist.. thus i shouldnt be criticising your beliefs and for that i am very sorry
True anarchy
shaggy_2_dopes
Shaggy, you big commie you :P
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shaggy_2_dopes
You didn't really answer my question:
How is a classless, stateless society based on production and distribution need a dictatorship?
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i dont know... i was basing my answers on a gov type communism.. sorry for insulting u
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shaggy_2_dopes
I'm not insulted...just confused.
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we all are man... exspecially me
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Hi
I can't believe I'm up this early. Anyway, I'm not confused at the moment.
I plan on being confused later, about midday I think.
Love
Chris
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Joe Roe
The question anarchists ask is: how can government bring about a classless, stateless society? :rb:
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Anarchoneilist
That's a bit of a vague question. What is a government?
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again shaggy must leave..
going to jail again
assualted a police officer for throwin me at his car for makin terroristic threats
i told a dude that i would knock him out if he pushed me again
he called the cops
but yea