Eclipse and re-emergence of the communist movement - Gilles Dauvé and François Martin


Oct 29 2009 19:33

Just a quick bump because I've gone through and tidied this up, added nice formatting, some pictures, done all the footnotes properly added interlinking and some additional footnotes with useful information. And this is one of our most popular texts.


Oct 30 2009 00:13

nice work, Steven., although there seems to be an input format problem on the foreword so the bbcode hasn't worked. No edit button to fix it either. The other pages seem fine.

Red Marriott
Oct 30 2009 01:51

Foreword fixed.

Oct 31 2009 14:12

Just a minor point - this isn't the original 1974 Black and Red version as stated above but the 1997 version published by Antagonism. For this new edition Gilles Dauvé wrote a new introduction, dropped most of the short appendices that were in the Black and Red edition and re-wrote parts of those of the main articles and the surviving appendix which he had originally written (I think only the François Martin article is unchanged). Oh and he put his own name on it rather than the pen name 'Jean Barrot' - not an insignificant change, reflecting the fact that Gilles Dauvé doesn't agree with everything 'Jean Barrot' wrote or with the way he put things. Overall the changes are reasonably substantial.

FWIW the original version is online here.

Oct 31 2009 16:21

Cheers guys.

Lurdan, you can correct the error if you can see an "edit" link above this article, then you can make the change yourself and an editor will approve it.

If you don't get a chance though then I will fix it when I can.

Oct 31 2009 16:35

hmm - looks like I can edit the body of the text but not the 'cover' page so I'm afraid it's up to someone else.

Red Marriott
Oct 31 2009 17:47


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Feb 1 2016 16:37

Is it possible to update this entire thing? The current edition is published by PM Press as part of their 'Revolutionary Pocketbooks' series, and all of the essays have been re-written. I have a copy of the book, so can work on write-up, if that helps.

Feb 2 2016 10:20

Sadly it appears the John Gray geocities site is no more. Does anyone have a lead on an online source of the 1974 edition? I seem to recall the original appendix that is now "Pannekoek and Bordiga" originally included all three of the main targets of "infantile disorder" - i.e. including Sylvia Pankhurst as well. But my memory is hazy as it's from the late 80s, so I'd like to verify that recollection.

Feb 2 2016 10:41
Feb 2 2016 11:13

Hmm. My memory is clearly faulty on the inclusion of Pankhurst in the Appendix (or elsewhere in Eclipse). Mystery.

May 8 2016 11:42

Here's the PDF for the newest (PM Press) edition, note how everything has been re-written/updated. This is shared for educational/informational purposes only.

May 30 2016 13:47

The updated and revised edition of the Dauve and Martin title by PM press with it's useful 'Postlude' comments and added footnotes is well worth re-reading even if people have read earlier editions or some of the individually published sections (as with the Value,Time, Communism one referenced above that includes some critical comments).

Juan Conatz
May 30 2019 12:51

Swampside Chats and Antifada Podcast just did a thing on this. It's been a long time since I've read it, might have to return to it.