Friday 14 January 2011 -- After a dramatic 24 hours when Tunisia's dictator president Ben Ali first tried promising liberalisation and an end to police shootings of demonstrators and then, this evening at 16:00, declaring martial law, he has finally fallen from office. While the rumours are still swirling, one thing is clear, Ben Ali has left Tunisia and the army has stepped in. The comments after this article contain continuous updates of the uprising.
The day began with a mass demonstration called by Tunisia's trade union federation, the UGTT, in the capital Tunis. Between 10 and 15,000 people demonstrated outside the Ministry of the Interior. The initially peaceful scene broke down at around 14:30 local time as police moved in with tear gas and batons to disperse the crowd, some of whom had managed to scale the Ministry building and get on its roof. From then on, the city centre descended into chaos with running battles between the riot police and Tunisians of all ages and backgrounds fighting for the overthrow of the hated despot.
Finally, armoured cars from the army appeared on the street and a state of emergency and curfew was declared with Ben Ali threatening the populace that the security forces had carte blanche to open fire on any gatherings of more than three people. Soon, however, he disappeared from view and the rumours began to circulate. The army seized control of the airport and there were reports of convoys of limousines racing to the airport from the Ben Ali families palace. Finally the official announcement came. Ben Ali is gone. Prime Minister Mohammed Ghannouchi appeared on state TV to announce that he was in charge of a caretaker government backed by the army.
Tonight the long-suffering people of Tunisia may rejoice that their last four weeks of heroic resistance has finally seen off the dictator who ran the most vicious police state in North Africa over them for the last 23 years.
But tomorrow morning will find the army in charge. What will happen tomorrow and the days to follow is anybody's guess. But the people now know that they have the power to overthrow a long-entrenched dictatorship, how much easier to take on a new unstable regime.
Report by Workers Solidarity Movement
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Euronews is just raw footage
Euronews is just raw footage from today in Tunis without commentary. Why the fuck would anyone watch scummy Murdoch news when this is on?
Valeriano O: Quote: let's
Valeriano O:
Didn't mean to sound fatalistic. I was just quoting that because that's clearly what the ruling class is hoping to achieve by this change - but almost invariably changes, particularly in such circumstances of mass independent revolt, also encourage further interesting initiatives from the poor. And the movements in Algeria will almost certainly be encouraged by this...
I'm still trying to catch up
I'm still trying to catch up with today's events. Thanks to everyone for the updates.
'The fear has gone … I've been waiting 20 years for today' (Guardian)
Tunisia: a moment in history
I've put a translation of
I've put a translation of this article by CNT Sevilla member Manu García in the library.
The protests in North Africa: what is happening?
Statement of support for the uprisings in Tunisia and Algeria from the CGT:
CGT se solidariza con las movilizaciones en Túnez y Argelia
Where Tunisia is now:
Where Tunisia is now: exhilarating limbo (Arabist)
Tunisia unrest a wake-up call for the region (Guardian)
The Arabist know is stuff
The Arabist know is stuff really, really well. I'd trust his analysis over almost any other source. Too bad he's a liberal, though he is at least sympathetic to workers' struggles.
Recent claims on twitter
Recent claims on twitter (unconfirmed)
Situation is pretty bad in Tunisia. Looting by police, violence by masked men, fear among population. Long dark night
I repeat. Situation in Tunisia is critical. Violence has spread amid chaos. Masked men like militias are attacking civilians
France 24: widespread looting of shops & private homes in Tunis, mostly by policemen
On Aljazeera: looting across Tunis... Citizens organizing vigilante groups to protect properties.. The Army is not intervening
Tanks are parked near a TV station in Tunis and eyewitness say masked men are attacking crowds of people on the streets
Latest Rumors: Ben Ali released groups of looters essentially composed of police and former criminals (army report, unconfirmed)
Jungle in Tunisia while I am tweeting this. Policemen stealing people's properties
Photo claimed to be of police looting shops tonight
Khawaga - have you heard any
Khawaga - have you heard any more about reactions in Egypt to today's events?
According to one claim on twitter, '100s of Egyptians rally at Tunisian embassy in Cairo calling for Egyptian President, Mubarak, to step down.'
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Arab World: welcoming the fall of Ben Ali (Global Voices)
Revolution in Tunisia: photo gallery
Why Tunisia's revolution Is
Why Tunisia's revolution Is Islamist-free (Foreign Policy)
After several hours of
After several hours of speculation on twitter it appears that Ben Ali's plane touched down in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia.
Some reactions: 'As a citizen and Saudi blogger, I am sad because a dictator Ben Ali in my country', and 'I'm a Saudi from Jeddah and I feel ashamed and angry my country is sheltering the Tunisian dictator.'
Jeddah also played host to exiled Ugandan dictator Idi Amin...
wiki
Edit: on twitter just now: 'The Royal Saudi Crown has just issued a statement saying it was welcoming Ben Ali and his family on Saudi territories.'
Arab activists hope Tunisia
Arab activists hope Tunisia uprising brings change
Medics: 13 shot dead in Tunis
Medics: 13 shot dead in Tunis unrest since Thursday night
Report from CGT North
Report from CGT North Africa
Democratic revolt in Tunisia
Democratic revolt in Tunisia and international silence (machine translation)
What happens when the media ignores an uprising?
The first twitter revolution?
Tunisia and the new Arab media space
Euronews video: Overnight
Euronews video: Overnight unrest after Tunisia’s president flees
Tunisia PM holds coalition talks as soldiers patrol
Ben Ali is still president
Ben Ali is still president (al-bab.com)
Edited to add
Tunisia revolt: will it
Tunisia revolt: will it spread?
Snap on the Whitaker article
Snap on the Whitaker article re constitutional issues.
Relevant news item from the BBC stream this morning looks like it might answer some of those questions:
Ben Ali's possible successors
Ben Ali's possible successors (Al Jazeera)
ocelot wrote: Relevant news
ocelot
BBC radio: Protesters 'now expecting widespread political reform' and 'Riots on the beach'
Also from the BBC
Also from the BBC stream
Tunisia's Ghannouchi is dead
Tunisia's Ghannouchi is dead in the water (The Arabist)
Long live the free people of
Long live the free people of Tunisia (Egyptian Chronicles)
Tunisia's 'Jasmine
Tunisia's 'Jasmine Revolution' jolts Arab world (AFP)
Will Tunisia be a turning point for Arab democracy?
Jordan fears another Tunisia (ahramonline)
Sudanese youths call for peaceful government overthrow
Tunisian prison fire 'kills
Tunisian prison fire 'kills dozens' (Guardian)
And on the BBC stream
Tunisia liveblog Quote: 1336
Tunisia liveblog
Video: army arresting police
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Video: army arresting police chief in Oued Ellil
From the BBC Quote: 1710
From the BBC
On twitter (claims may be
On twitter (claims may be unconfirmed)
Some shooting on streets of Tunis and Reuters reports impromptu militias of residents guarding suburbs against looters
For example last night people made their own local committees to protect civilians. It takes organisation & leadership
this is a barricade placed by the youth of our neighborhood right in front of my home in Bizerte http://twitpic.com/3q9xtf
Collabrative mapping using google earth to track death squads and other threats #sidibouzid #googlempas http://bit.ly/eLjlR8
There seems to be a full-blown clash between the army and RCD/Benali/Trabelsi militias, according to many reports
According to @Issrar_Khanum, Benali militias have shot at army barracks in Bizerte
The snipers who killed the protesters were from the president security(Professionals)!
The responsibles for the shooting in Lamta were apprehended in Sayada. they were driving a van full of weapons.
Arrested Terrorists (corrupted cops) with weapons using a rented car #SidiBouzid http://fb.me/IBsEsJf4
Al Jazeera: head of pesidential security arrested today; Rachid Ghannouchi, head of banned islamist party Ennahda to return soon
AFP: URGENT: Tunisian political dissident Rachid #Ghannouchi, preparing to return to #Tunisia.
Aljazeera is making Rashid Ghannoushi sound like an important player/voice in Tunisia. We did NOT kick out ZABA for Islamists!
Arrestation de Slim Chiboub http://post.ly/1UUyr #Sidibouzid Ben Ali's son in law arrested while trying to escape to Libya
People of Bin Guirdane are helping catch ZABA's cronies fleeing to Libya.
Sami El Fehri (owner of CactusProduction, media empire of Liela BenAli) next to be captured
#Egypt withdraws the Egyptian Ambassador from #Tunisia, and bans all Tunisians from entry. #Mubarak pissing his pants.
"Democratize or we'll Tunisify"RT @JoelleJackson Al Jaz interviewing Yemenis,1lady tells Saleh that we threaten you with
"French ministers offered Ben Ali’s regime police support to deal with the recent protests" http://bit.ly/e0MEPs
Not A Joke: Palestinian puppet Mahmoud Abbas sent his sincere 'condolences' to overthrown dictator #BenAli yesterday.
Going to the rally in support of #Tunisia & #Tunisians at ParlimentHill #Ottawa @ 2:00 today
Thousands of tunisians march through Paris streets to celebrate ousting of Ben Ali #tunisie #sidibouzid http://twitpic.com/3qaxyc
Follow @ClaireInParis flickr for photos of #Tunisia demos in Paris #SidiBouzid http://bit.ly/gwUi6l
Article by the International
Article by the International Marxist Tendency published yesterday - and so now entirely out of date - but still interesting. Again, by posting up or linking to articles I'm not endorsing the politics of this group, or anyone else who's writing about events in Tunisia.
From the uprising of Sidi Bizoud to the revolution!
Mid-East bloggers hail change
Mid-East bloggers hail change in Tunisia (BBC)
Tunisia liveblog Quote: 1830
Tunisia liveblog
Are jackboots already
Are jackboots already trampling the "Jasmine Revolution"? (CNN)
Edited to add this comment on twitter
Récit de la manif de soutien
Récit de la manif de soutien au tunisiens à lyon
Myth and reality in the
Myth and reality in the Jasmine Revolution (Egyptian Chronicles)
Twitter, Wikileaks and Tunisia (The Arabist)
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Thanks again to Mark for the
Thanks again to Mark for the updates. :)
yeah seriously thanks!
yeah seriously thanks!
Some thoughts for the day
Some thoughts for the day from As'ad at angryarab.blogspot.com
There is no religious factor in the Tunisian uprising
Aljazeera needs to STOP pushing the Islamist Rashid Ghannushi
The Islamist factor in Tunisia
I've been looking for more on Rashid Ghannoushi and haven't found much that's critical, so here's an article that's uncritical. For an Islamist he sounds relatively liberal and influenced by leftist ideas but this passage suggests he is in favour of implementing Sharia.
More from
More from angryarab.blogspot.com
The Left in Tunisia
This is a mature movement in Tunisia, and it knows what it wants
House of Saud and Tunisia
Guardian Quote: The sudden
Guardian
Sky News Quote: Several
Sky News
statement by the
statement by the post-hoxhaite PCOT with introduction by the AWL: http://www.workersliberty.org/story/2011/01/15/tunisia-democracy-freedom-and-workers%E2%80%99-rights ... as far as I know, the PCOT is the strongest of the illegal leftist groups with some influence among students and academics
Yes that's the impression
Yes that's the impression I've got from what I've read so far. I was wondering what tendency they were, but I don't think I'd ever have guessed at 'post-hoxhaite' - must be some kind of history there...
PCOT
Edited to add this from angryarab.blogspot
Tunisian political parties: The case of Tunisian Communist Workers Party
Tunisia liveblog Quote: 1150
Tunisia liveblog
Trouble in Libya
Trouble in Libya (al-bab.com)
Tunisia seeks to form unity cabinet (BBC)
Tunisia revolts and the view from Jordan (Black Iris)
Will revolt in Tunisia inspire others? (LA Times)
Also from the BBC
Also from the BBC report
Tunisia gripped by uncertainty (Al Jazeera)
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Looks like the rest of the
Looks like the rest of the Arab leaders, including Ghaddafi, are incredibly nervous about this spreading to their own doorsteps.
I must confess I know very little about the Arab world. To those that know more, what would you say the likelihood is of another one of these regimes toppling in the near future?
I'm not an expert but I've
I'm not an expert but I've seen suggestions that Algeria might be vulnerable, though really it's anyone's guess. It's starting to look like a 'Berlin wall coming down' moment but maybe I'm being far too optimistic.
Libya protest over housing enters its third day (ahramonline)
I welcome the information
I welcome the information collated by Mark and Ocelot above.
There's a lot about the consequences on the "Arab world". This seems to be based on the premise that Tunisians are "Arab" and other countries, Libya and Egypt for example, also have "Arab" populations. But, as important as these events are for countries around the Middle East this is not a question about race but class. The events in Tunisia are also important for the working class of western Europe as we can see for the blackout that has been in operation in the "free press" of Europe for the last weeks. It's for this reason, ie, possible contagion, that the French bourgeoisie, despite offering police support for Ben Ali about a week ago, refused him permission to land in France. The overthrow of the western-backed Tunisian mafia is also a blow to the imperialisms of France, GB, the United States.
As to Egypt specifically, the numbers coming onto the streets are minimal and the state hasn't altered the status of its super-saturated organs of repression. If there was an attempt at an uprising in this country American imperialism would not sit idly by.
Interesting
Interesting developments...
Article on the Grauniad
Video here
Blog and article about al-Bayda here
Quote: "There isn't really a
http://af.reuters.com/article/algeriaNews/idAFLDE70F03520110116
Quote: Echoes of the unrest
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/16/tunisia-protests-suicide-algeria-arab
Some more extracts from the
Some more extracts from the Tunisia liveblog
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Tunisia Scenario - from a
Tunisia Scenario - from a blogger on the ground in Tunis
El pueblo organiza su defensa (Alasbarricadas) - one of the better reports I've seen on what is happening in Tunis - worth translating
Why call the news article the
Why call the news article the Jasmine Revolution? Apparently that's a very contentious term to use; Tunisians object to it.
Probably because of this:
Arabist
http://www.arabist.net/blog/2011/1/17/why-you-shouldnt-call-it-the-jasmine-revolution.html
Spoke to a Tunisian friend
Spoke to a Tunisian friend yesterday morning and he said, more or less, the following, having got the information from his family back home :
The bourgeoisie are getting their guns out of their attics and firing on anyone in the street they don’t like the look of (basically, proletarian youth). It’s a massacre. Many cops, encouraged and manipulated by the ruling class, are attacking and looting houses of the middle and working class. Shops and supermarkets, having been rightly looted by young proletarians, are now protected by baseball bat and gun-wielding petit-bourgeois vigilantes in collaboration with the army and the cops. This is being presented in the French media as “community” groups keeping order in the localities; but they aren’t doing anything against the cops’ looting or the bourgeois attacks on proletarians, surprise surprise. The image being presented is of a return to the “rational” order of dominant normality, and so far proletarians have not looted the arsenals or arms caches….
Apologies if this has already been covered - my time on the internet has been very limited over the last few days and haven't had time to read all the posts here.
Samotnaf - I've posted up
Samotnaf - I've posted up various reports of what is happening but I wouldn't say it's 'already been covered'. Some of the opinions and interpretations seem contradictory, and I'm not that clear in my own mind about what is going on. Any more information or views are welcome.
Khawaga wrote: Why call the
Khawaga
Second that. It's also an transparent attempt to re-brand it, after the fact, as a Colour revolution, of the kind supported by the US, supposedly as part of the Neocon mission to export the liberal democratic revolution, in practice as cynical furtherance of US foreign policy objectives in either surrounding Russia, positional and resource struggles in Central Asian Republics, and counter-Syrian and Iranian moves in Lebanon (Cedar Revolution - which has, coincidentally, gone seriously tits up at the moment - US State Dept. policy in the Muslim Mediterranean has broken down on multiple fronts at the moment, a few more Clinton tours like the last one and their whole setup will be in ruins :) ).
In that sense, Tunisia is precisely the opposite of a Colour Revolution, in that it was against a US-backed dictatorship. The re-branding attempt is an attempt to cover over the unique feature of this revolution as the direct achievement of the people without the backing of any outside geopolitical force, or the mediation of any political representational racket whether islamist, baathist, stalinist (hoxha-ist!) or what have you.
Khawaga wrote: Why call the
Khawaga
Khawaga - thanks for posting this. I hadn't realised that the term 'Jasmine Revolution' was contentious. It was just that the original title of the thread seemed to have been overtaken by events and I picked up on Jasmine Revolution being used by Tunisians themselves. The connotation for me was Portugal in 1974, which probably shows my age. The Ben Ali connection confuses things.
Arabist
I had been thinking about trying to write some more about possible parallels with what happened in Portugal. So far I've seen Romania, Poland, and Iran mentioned but I'm wondering if Portugal might be the closest comparison, at least in so far as this is useful at all.
Edit: Cross-posted with ocelot and MT. I've no particular attachment to the term 'Jasmine Revolution' or the title and I'd have no problem if the admins want to change it to something else. I think anyone can edit the article, including the title, subject to edits being approved by the admins - so if people want it changed it might be best if they put up their own proposals and the reasons for them. Thanks to everyone for the feedback - all comments are welcome.
Edit: I see it's already been changed...
Can we really speak about
Can we really speak about revolution in Tunisia? I have to say I have read only the posts from 2-3 days ago, but do we know about the new forms of organizing the community and industry or any project of that coming from Tunisia? I may be wrong, but I see this as a revolt which evolved into a possibility for a change of the ruling class. Perhaps we could call it political revolution, but still...
Regarding the Carnation
Regarding the Carnation Revolution in Portugal the best source I've seen in English is Phil Mailer's Portugal: The Impossible Revolution, reviewed here.
Events in Portugal were initiated by a left leaning military coup ending a dictatorship and leading to several years of some quite radical unrest. I suppose I'm wondering if something similar might happen in Tunisia, and maybe in other Arab counties. Of course I could be completely off on the wrong track here.
Edited to add link to video of Zeca Afonso - Grândola Vila Morena, the song played on the radio in Portugal as the signal to launch the coup.
More on Libya Libya and the
More on Libya
Libya and the vanishing videos (al-bab.com)
From today's
From today's liveblog
Quote: Tunisian Army tries to
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Photos:
Events in Tunisia from a
Events in Tunisia from a libertarian perspective
In French http://www.cnt-f.org/spip.php?article1459 and http://www.cnt-f.org/international/
In Spanish http://www.alasbarricadas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=49280
Sorry if this has been posted
Sorry if this has been posted already,
Taoufik ben Brik
from http://www.courrierinternational.com/article/2011/01/17/il-etait-une-fois-la-revolution (in French; translated part by the Arabist).
This is one thing I've been meaning to raise. Why are we calling it a revolution? Up until now it could be called a political one, but considering that the old regime is still in place but just with a new appearance, shouldn't we refrain from calling it a revolution? Uprising would be better. This is semantics, sure, but we shouldn't try to confuse "our" kind of social revolution with a change of state power as it appears happened in Tunisia.
Just seen national TV news in
Just seen national TV news in France and apart from the previously mentioned demos against the "new" regime's domination by ministers from the old one, there was an interesting, though short, clip of people in a poor area stopping cars (presumably with arms, though they weren't shown) and searching them because, as one guy said to the cameras, "supporters of the old regime are going around committing outrages".
I don't think it semantics
I don't think it semantics but political analysis not to characterise this as a "revolution". Revolt or uprising seems more appropriate.
The bourgeoisie of western Europe are talking about the "Tunisian revolution" and "Arab revoluton" in the context of their ideological defence of "democracy and freedom". These, and the United States, are the same people that backed the Ben Ali regime and continue to back the regimes of Algeria, Egypt and Libya. They are the same people that instituted a blackout of information through their media and the same, as in the case of France, that offered police support to Ben Ali only days ago. They would like us to believe in Arab "exceptionalism" and that the courageous uprising of the Tunisian masses had nothing to do with fighting for our own class interests in Britain, France, etc. I.e., fighting for dignity and a future that capitalism cannot provide. It is not only the bourgeoisie's of the Arab states that are looking at events in Tunisia with some trepidation.
A quick word on the trade unions: amid the unrest, early in January in Algeria, workers in the port of Alger went on strike over the port authorities' agreement with the union to withdraw extra payments for night work. The workers refused requests from union officials to postpone their action and carried on with the strike which took place in the context of demonstrations by employed and unemployed workers.
In Tunisia the UGTT had nothing to say until the second week of January when it came out with some mealy-mouthed statements about it 'not being normal to fire bullets at protesters' and other such crap. It also stated that it had to be with the movement and called for a two-hour general strike last Friday.
Khawaga - I hadn't seen that
Khawaga - I hadn't seen that before and I suspect that generally the reporting and analysis in French is better than what we are getting in English. After all French is the main European language spoken in Tunisia and there's a big Tunisian community in France so this is natural enough. In a way it's more surprising that so much has come out in English and I think there has been a concerted effort by activists to get information translated as it comes out.
On the question of calling it a revolution, again I suppose I was thinking in terms of Portugal in 1974 where the overthrow of a dictatorship in a political revolution of sorts led on to a situation where workplaces and farms started to be occupied. I'm making the assumption that something similar may happen in Tunisia. As Taoufik ben Brik say in that quote, "Who can then honestly predict the consequences of this unfinished -- or perhaps stolen -- revolution".
That said I hadn't given much thought to using the word revolution in the title and I've no problem at all if anybody wants to change it. I take the point that "we shouldn't try to confuse "our" kind of social revolution with a change of state power". I'm still seeing this change of state power as the start of something rather than the end of it, though I may well be wrong.
baboon - Regarding trade
baboon - Regarding trade unions in the Maghreb I think there's a distinction between the more autonomous unions of the kind that the CGT and CNT-F have links with and the ones that are closely tied in with the state. In the case of Tunisia this is less clear as basically there is only one union, the UGTT, and attempts to set up an alternative didn't get off the ground, but It seems that a more autonomous current exists within the UGTT which has played a part in the uprising. I think it's only realistic to acknowledge that this distinction exists even if you don't see unions as a way forward. I'm not disputing the official behaviour of the UGTT at all.
More extracts from today's
More extracts from today's liveblog
1720 GMT: In Algeria, the opposition party Rally for Culture and Democracy (RCD) has demanded that the Government "immediately and unconditionally" release trade unionist Ahmad Badawi, who was arrested by police in Algiers on Saturday after leaving a meeting with several officials of independent trade unions and civil society leaders.
1655 GMT: Egyptian stocks posted their biggest drop in seven months and the Egyptian pound dipped to its lowest level against the dollar in almost six years on Monday.
A trader at a bank said, "It's Tunisia, and then the man setting himself on fire in Cairo this morning.There's some hot money flying out of the market, mainly foreigners selling."
1620 GMT: Prime Minister Mohamed Ghannouchi has announced the new Government. Some of the "old guard", such as Foreign Minister Kamel Morjane and Minister of Interior Ahmed Friaa, have retained their posts. The Ministers of Defense and of Finance also stay in place.
Najib Chebbi, founder of the opposition Progressive Democratic Party (PDP), is Minister of Regional Development. Ahmed Ibrahim, leader of the Ettajdid party, is Minister of Higher Education, and Mustafa Ben Jaafar, head of the Union of Freedom and Labour, is Minister of Health.
Prominent blogger Slim Amamou, who was detained a week before the fall of President Ben Ali and released after the collapse of the regime, will be Minister of Youth.
Ghannouchi also announced a lifting of the ban on political parties, the release of all political detainees, and the free functioning of unions and syndicates. The Ministry of Communication has been abolished, while new committees will be established for political reform, accountability for recent incidents, and fact-finding into corruption and bribery.
Tunisians sceptical of new
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Tunisians sceptical of new government (Al Jazeera)
Tunisia liveblog Quote: 1145
Tunisia liveblog
Tunisia: the need for vigilance (al-bab.com)
Tunisia's popular uprising sends ripples across Eurasia
The brutal truth about
The brutal truth about Tunisia (Robert Fisk)
Tunisian academic: 'will not recognize this band of thugs'
Tunisia: 'Don’t allow your revolution to be stolen'
La centrale syndicale tunisienne ne reconnaît pas le nouveau gouvernement
Khawaga wrote: This is one
Khawaga
I want to respond to this because I think it's of central importance that we understand what we mean by revolution.
I think there's a confusion of cause and effect here. To put it another way, what's the difference between a palace coup brought about by internal intrigue within the ruling clique and a palace coup brought about by widespread working class attack on the state? If you adopt a Linnean taxonomy approach to revolutions by attempting to divide them into separate apriori categories of bourgeois revolutions and social (or proletarian) revolutions based on their outcomes, you completely lose sight of agency.
By focusing on the outcome at the top - who is in control? - you lose sight of agency - who's action made change a necessity?
As Tronti said all those years ago: “We too have considered in first place capitalist development, and only afterward the workers struggles. This is an error. It is necessary to invert the problem, change the sign, and begin again: and the beginning is the struggle of the working class.”
A revolution is a process social change brought about by the agency of widespread working class uprising against the existing structures of political power. It is not defined by it's initial programme. Once begun will carry on until it is defeated - it is defeated when the active power of the insurgent working class is broken... until the next time - or until social revolution destroys class society.
By adopting this peculiar back-to-front process of judging the apriori essentialist nature of a revolution retrospectively, by its eventual outcome, we risk rewriting history just as much as the bourgeois recuperators who wish to recast every revolution as a middle-class led struggle for liberal (capitlist) democracy.
If, when the revolution is defeated, what is left behind is a bourgeois democracy, then to say, "Sure, that means it was a bourgeois revolution all along". Is, imho, historical revisionism and politically indefensible. Taken to the extreme it can lead to the ultimate impossibilist error of denying that there even was a revolution at all. Revolution is a process, not a thing. Potentia not potestas. It is no more defined by its eventual outcome than a human being is defined by his or her eventual corpse.
On Friday the programme of the revolution was "Ben Ali, c'est fini!". Today it struggles to get rid of the RCD. We have a natural progression from the individual to the collectivity of the established power. How far that process will go before it is defeated we cannot say at this stage. What we can say, right now, is it's not over yet.
We we say "long live the revolution!" it's not simply an empty formula without meaning - it is expressing the avid hope that the revolution lives long enough to grow, go further and progress beyond targetting individual despots and clutches of crony despotisms, to a more generalised, systemic programme of social of transformation.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. Back to scanning the news.
NB, on that. It's noticeable that since Friday we're getting virtually no news through to the media from outside of Tunis. We had some stories, written before Friday, that in towns like Kesserine, both the police and the army had withdrawn from the town, leaving it to the residents to set up self-organisation.
Since Friday, it appears that there are no foreign journalists outside of the capital, hence we have not had any news from Sidi Bouzid, Kesserine, Sfax, Bizerte, etc. There has been a brief mention today (see stream above) of anti-RCD protests in towns outside of Tunis, but no more than that.
Tunisian opposition party
Tunisian opposition party threatens to leave cabinet
That would leave Chebbi, Ben Jaafar and blog boy @slim404 (minister for youth and making the tea) in the fig-leaf roles.
Three UGTT ministers and one
Three UGTT ministers and one FDLT minister have all resigned now, relatively minor posts apart from Health Minister Mustapha Ben Jaafar but looks like they're getting out while the going's good. Puts Ghannouchi under a lot of pressure, especially if Ettajdid and Culture Minister Moufida Tlatli follow suit as they're threatening.
Could collapse the coalition, suggests maybe the opposition is scenting blood and reckons it can get more than a co-opted junior partner status - or is worried that things will keep moving and it'll be tarred with the same brush at just the wrong moment.
What's the deal with Slim
What's the deal with Slim Amamou? He has the Sab Cat as his Twitter bacground - but I take it he's not an Anarchist or an Anarcho-Syndicalist?
Robert Fisk's article in The
Robert Fisk's article in The Independent points to what samotnaf and me were afraid of last week...We'll see.
Edit: It lacked the 2nd and final part.
Humanité: Des milliers de
Humanité: Des milliers de manifestants à Tunis et en province contre le gouvernement
Not much else to compare these numbers to, but nb compare the Tunis numbers to the 200 or so reported on the Guardian thread. Also bear in mind that l'Humanité might possibly be more inclined to inflate the numbers than the rest of the press.
if you'll pardon my use of a
if you'll pardon my use of a non-PC metaphor, it seems the ample aristo is not warming up her vocal chords just yet.
Al Jazeera
Just a minor detail. From a
Just a minor detail. From a picture in the Guardian of Mebazaa getting out of a car at Govt. buildings yesterday. What's interesting is not him but the security detail. Clearly army (prob. special forces by the looks of the gear) rather than police and in balaclavas. This suggests that the normal police detail for politician protection has been replaced temporarily. Make of it what you will, but it doesn't look like business as usual.
Now this is just
Now this is just weird...
Torygraph: Ousted Tunisian president 'living in remote Saudi area known for al-Qaeda links'
Total side issue tbh. But feedstock for a hundred conspiracy theories. I guess with a new merc security force and paying off the local tribes Ben Ali gets left alone, but what exactly will his goodwill contributions be feeding? I'm very vaguely aware there's a unpublicised dirty war going on in and around Yemen, but if anyone can provide links to more Yemen info, please start a thread.
Auto wrote: What's the deal
Auto
According to the Guardian
I can't say I know anything about the Pirate Parties beyond what I've read on wikipedia.
Reference the mention of
Reference the mention of Robert Fisk and British imperialism above:
At a meeting at the British embassy in Tunis on November 30 last year, Alastair Burt, British Foreign Minister for the Middle East and North Africa said, addressing various elements of the Tunisian ruling class, "... your country has all the required assets to be a strategic partner in all sectors...", after emphasising the "climate of peace and stability" that existed in the country.
Last night the same minister, putting forward the view of the Foreign Office, said that "Britain wanted to see the streets quiet" (no denounciation of any of the massacres - unlike Iran, as Django points out elsewhere), " (...) supports an orderly transition of government" and "supports of the best interest of the British people", by which he means British imperialism.
The greatest solidarity that the working class in Britain can show with its class comrades in Tunisia is to spread and deepen its own struggle against its own class of murderers.
More from the
More from the liveblog
some folks, just no
some folks, just no gratitude
So that just leaves Chebbi. And Mr. blog boy Pirate Party fella, Slim Amamou. The case of the latter being yet another object lesson for the use of beating over the heads of gormless geeks entranced by the vision of how cypherpunks and other cyberbuggery is going to transform "politics as we know it".
The Saudi plan for the
The Saudi plan for the Islamization of the Tunisian Uprising (angryarab.blogspot)
classic composition, although
classic composition, although the dude on the left looks like he hasn't had his morning coffee, so a bit of cropping may be in order - pic
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From a blogger in
From a blogger in Tunis...
From the same
From the same blog
Video: interview with Arabist
Video: interview with Arabist about the impact of the Tunisia uprising in Egypt
Tunisia and the region (Arabist)
The denial of denial is confirmation (Egyptian Chronicles)
Tunisia crisis: live updates
Tunisia crisis: live updates (Guardian)
Photos from a demo in Bizerte
Photos from a demo in Bizerte today (nawaat.org)
[edit: sorry that picture
[edit: sorry that picture link has expired]
BBC videos Taking the
BBC videos
Taking the temperature on the streets of Tunis
Tunisia's new national unity government in tatters
Protest and clashes between
Protest and clashes between school students and police in Nouakchott, the capital of Mauritania on Tuesday (machine translation).
On twitter: 'There have been protests inspired by Tunisia in Oman in front empty govt offices since bureaucrats work until 14:30.'
Also on twitter: 'Majority of European Parliament rejects resolution supporting Tunisian people.'
Did French customs topple Ben
Did French customs topple Ben Ali?
First off, the answer to the question posed by the headline is - no, of course not.
A bit of contextualisation might be in order. The events in Tunisia are having some political fallout in France at the moment. Primarily this is just an excuse for another round of tit for tat in the ongoing culture war between left and right which is of no particular interest to anybody outside France (and a good number inside, tbh), apart from it will occassionally throw out numbers like the above story.
The whistlestop summary is that a couple of days before Ben Ali fell, the French foreign minister Michelle Alliot-Marie (aka MAM) announced in parliament that the French state, with its unparalleled experience in policing this sort of thing, stood ready to help Ben Ali restore order. Since Ben Ali fell the left have been calling foul on MAM, in return the right have retailiated by pointing out that a) Ben Ali and his RCD party were members of the Socialist International that the PS were part of, until a few days ago and b) the PS star mayor of Paris, Bertrand Delanoë, has never said diddly about Ben Ali and the Tunisian situation, despite being Tunisian born himself, and blah, blah, blah, so it goes on...
So the above is another card in the game to prove that MAM is either a) an evil imperialist securocrat, hell-bent on parachuting the Foreign Legion into Tunis, or b) an enlightened humanitarian who exercised diplomatic discretion by holding up a vital re-up of CS through procedural means to secretly support the plucky Tunisians struggle for French-style liberal democracy.
N'importe quoi...
too good to miss. note the
too good to miss. note the date
SI decision on Tunisia
ocelot wrote: too good to
ocelot
still embodying the "values and principles" of the SI are e.g. Mubarak's NDP or the Mexican PRI
AP Quote: Anti-govt
AP
Quote: This decision, in
Quite
Ahram online Quote: Tunisia
Ahram online
NB that last para seems to contradict the AP story about Morjane returning to Tunis before the conference.
The top most viewed stories on al ahram show the current impact of Tunisia on the arab imagination - at least in Egypt.
1. Tunisie Telecom forced to delay its initial public offering
2. Market Report: Egyptian wave of self-immolation hits Stock Exchange
3. WB: Tunisian crisis proved addressing unemployment should be top regional priority
4. Algeria buys wheat to avoid shortage and unrest
5. French industry eyes Tunisia
6. Sharm Summit: The businessmen are coming
7. Tunisian uprising impacts economy: report
8. Switzerland considers freezing Tunisian president's alleged assets
some interesting stories in that lot.
Picking up on one of those
Picking up on one of those stories...
French industry eyes Tunisia
One question at the back of my mind has been what will happen to the large sector of the Tunisian economy that was directly owned by members of the families of Ben Ali and Leila Trabelsi. Nationalisation? Sale to foreign investors? Privatisation with an asset grab by the Tunisian business and political class? Attempts at self-management?
What Tunisia proved - and
What Tunisia proved - and disproved - about political change in the Arab world
Tunisia crisis: live updates
Tunisia crisis: live updates (Guardian)
Tunisia liveblog
le Parisien reports that
le Parisien reports that Chebbi has announced that the first Cabinet meeting of new ministers will not take place until tomorrow now.
The excuse being that as the main order of business will be the general amnesty for all political prisoners (that opposition and civil socitey groups have been demanding for decades), the ministry of justice needs the time to get the paperwork together. Also on the agenda will be the separation of state bodies from the RCD (which has been the single party of power since independance). That's if they ever get to meet, that is. 24 hours is a long time in Tunisian politics just now.
Pues eso: revolución One of
Pues eso: revolución
One of the better reports I've seen from the ongoing protests in Tunis. In Spanish unfortunately.
Without God on our
Without God on our side
CEMB forum -- Ex-muslims discussing Tunisia
Here's a report from the
Here's a report from the Telegraph that's interesting because in passing it mentions 'revolutionary committees of workers ... set to strip power from state-appointed directors'. It doesn't give any more details and there's nothing to say how widespread this is, how these committees operate or how far they are going.
Some of the reporting that has come out of Tunisia has actually been quite good after the initial delay, but I suspect journalists may be missing things which are important but don't fit in with their worldview. There's plenty been written about role of the internet and the supposed Islamist threat etc, but very little about the organisation of the uprising, the unions and the left.
It's also worth noting that not much is being written about what is happening in the back country towns where the uprising began. If you take the view that politics is about the formation of governments and what goes on in the capital city then that makes a kind of sense but I'm not sure how far it deals with what actually matters in Tunisia at the moment.
Tunisia's new government implodes on day one
From the New York
From the New York Times
Protests spread to the BBC?
Protests spread to the BBC?
BBC Arabic staff on strike over extra working hours (Al Arabiya)
From the liveblog Quote: 2135
From the liveblog
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Since Friday, Yemen sees
Since Friday, Yemen sees daily anti-government protests (Al Arabiya)
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Photos Video: RCD out Video:
Photos
Video: RCD out
Video: how to leave the RCD
More videos
liveblog Quote: 1050 GMT:
liveblog
Video: demonstrators demand
Video: demonstrators demand new democracy
Mood in Tunisia lifts, but revolution may not be over (Guardian)
Welcome to post-Islamism (al-bab.com)
Some barricades being removed
I saw this on one of the
I saw this on one of the francophone streams last night (nouvelobs?). Anyway, here's the ahram take:
33 Ben Ali relatives arrested
Obviously what we really want
Obviously what we really want is interviews with UGTT militants and grassroots organisers, (especially, as Mark previously raised, what's really going on in the workplaces of the now fled, dead or arrested Benali - Trabelsi empire) along with news of what's happening in the interior cities like Kesserine and Sidi Bouzid. Looks like it's going to be while before any of that appears in the online anglo and euro news spheres.
In the meantime, faute de mieux, it appears that the UGTT translators have made more of an effort to translate their latest official releases into english, rather than french, contrary to what you might expect. See UGTT english statements
Obviously they're mostly predictably staid, cautious and timidly reformist. But there are still some interesting details.
For e.g. this from the first statement after the inital outbreak in Sidi Bouzid, dated December 21 -
Now I recall somewhere in the accounts I have read that Mohamed Bouzizi was not selling vegetables in Sidi Bouzid, he'd gone to one of the big towns on the coast and it was there that he was stopped by the police. Presumably he would have been unable to get a traders licence for a town he was not registered in (in the French system, your place of residence must be registered) even had he tried to. By the accounts it was after his encounter with the Police in whichever coastal town it was, that he returned to Sidi Bouzid and immolated himself in front of the local Mairie. There seems to have been a distinct regional tension underlying the origins of this intifada. All of which makes the lack of news from the interior more frustrating, but hey...
I was going to try and just
I was going to try and just pick snippets out of this, but it has diverse points of interest, so apols for length...
Tunisia debates a future without powerful Ben Ali party
Signs of a tension there between Houssine Dimassi and other opinions within the UGTT.
an interview with an exiled
an interview with an exiled Socialist from Tunesia: http://cpgb.org.uk/article.php?article_id=1004236
Staff kick out the CEO of an
Staff kick out the CEO of an insurance company due to links with Ali's regime.
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessnews.com.tn%2FTunisie---Le-personnel-de-la-STAR-renvoie-le-PDG-dehors%2C520%2C23105%2C1
le Parisien: Warning shots
le Parisien: Warning shots fired over demonstrators
and a photo from the demo
and a photo from the demo http://www.leparisien.fr/images/2011/01/20/1234966_834545de-241c-11e0-9e09-00151780182c.jpg
Nouvel
Nouvel Obs
hmm, it seems a correction is
hmm, it seems a correction is in order on my previous speculations about Bouazizi having travelled to a coastal town to ply his wares. It appears that it was Sidi Bouzid where the last confrontation with the police took place. The reference to going up to the big city in the original report was presumably an interview with lads from the village he was from outside town.
But the issue of regional underdevelopment remains, coming out repeatedly in the UGTT reports. As it happens BBC reports a demo today in one of those regions
Gafsa and Kef being the cities/governates mentioned by the union federation, alongside Sidi Bouzid as particularly deprived regions.
NB the contention that this is the first demo outside of Tunis since the 14th does not stand up, as the above thread records.
An interesting background
An interesting background piece on the 2008 struggle in the phosphate mining region in Gafsa, around Redeyef.
Land-grab, repression, in Tunisia's phosphates belt
Palestinian authority blocks
Palestinian authority blocks Tunisia rally
Protests erupt in Yemen,
Protests erupt in Yemen, president offers reform
Edited to add: Yemeni protesters target Salih (al-bab.com)
On twitter Important upcoming
On twitter
Important upcoming dates for protests: Algeria 22 Jan, Egypt 25 Jan
A warning message to the Algerian government, video version: http://is.gd/U9uc1E
The sixth in a series of
The sixth in a series of daily reports from Tunis...
El sexto día del pueblo tunecino: haciendo planes
thanks for this
thanks for this thread!
here's an article on some of the reactions in china to the uprising:
Tunisia's Uprising an Inspiration for Chinese
Entdinglichung wrote: an
Entdinglichung
For anyone who hasn't clicked on the link here is part of that interview with London based exile Nadim Mahjoub.
The 9 Points of the Workers
The 9 Points of the Workers Communist Party of Tunisia
Tunisia Solidarity
Tunisia Solidarity Campaign
liveblog Quote: 1040 GMT: I
liveblog
International anarchist
International anarchist communist statement
تونس.الثوره لم تنتهس بعد
Tunisia: the revolution is not over
Primera semana del pueblo
Primera semana del pueblo tunecino: siempre adelante
Parallels between Tunisia and
Parallels between Tunisia and Portugal in 1974, continued...
photo from Tunisia
photo from Portugal
The calculations of Tunisia's
The calculations of Tunisia's military (Foreign Policy)
On twitter 'Wow! this could
On twitter
'Wow! this could be very interesting RT @dima_khatib: Demos in#Jordan. At least 10k in Amman. Asking government to step down'
If you're going to make a
If you're going to make a comparison with the Portuguese revolution, which seems very premature imo, the idea of an army liberating the people is a dangerous one, since reliance on the army in Portugal, reliance on its left-wing, was one of the weaknesses of the movement - people looked too much to Cavalho to protect them against the right, which was partly a result of failing to seize arms directly; sure, Portugal was more compicated than this (for one thing, there was a lot of open discussion in the army a bit like the Agitators during the English civil war) but hope from the army, as opposed to hope from a mutiny in the army, was still an expression of the limitations of the autonomous aspects of the movement.
Is there any evidence that this is more than wishful thinking on the part of this guy - I've seen cars going through popular areas being stopped and searched by the movement, but anything else happening?
The following interview with
The following interview with exiled opposition journalist and writer Ben Brik as to why he thinks he should be the next president, is notable only for the kind of extreme ego-maniacal self-aggrandisement and messiah-complex that I haven't come across since Salvador Dali died. At least with Dali you got the inkling that he was taking the piss on some level... (literally in the case of Impressions of Upper Mongolia)
"Je suis le prophète de la révolte tunisienne"
But this little snippet jumped out
oh, and just in case you thought I was kidding about the delirious megalomania...
* this actually has a historical meaning in the Tunisian context, other than the apparently idiotic tautology.
It appears that reports of
It appears that reports of Imed Trabelsi's death have been exaggerated, more's the pity.
le Parisien - Tunisie : Imed Trabelsi, un proche de Ben Ali, est vivant
Samotnaf wrote: If you're
Samotnaf
I agree that the idea of the army liberating the people is dangerous, and I've read the occasional, and rather alarming, statement that is quite favourable to the idea of a military takeover of some kind. This may owe something to political naivety, but also to the fact that the army has been on the streets of Tunis shooting it out with elements of the police and the RCD, in some kind of coordination with the opposition and the people manning neighbourhood barricades. So far there doesn't seem to be much sign of conflict between the army and the opposition but quite likely it will happen sooner or later and maybe ideas will develop accordingly.
In comparing Tunisia to Portugal I'm not trying to make a value judgement, I'm just looking for anything that might help in understanding what is happening and how the situation might develop. Portugal might also offer some lessons in how not to do things. My thoughts on all this are very tentative though and I'd welcome anyone else's opinions.
By the way why do you think making a comparison with the Portuguese revolution seem premature?
I get the impression that decisions in the Tunisian army are coming from the top, rather than from discussion in the ranks, or at least I haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise.
[/quote] I'm not sure tbh. The quote is in the context of random opinions from people at a protest in Tunis so I'm not sure how much to read into it, but I thought it was interesting that this kind of idea is even being suggested.
The situation may be different outside Tunis. For example that last report in Spanish claims that Kasserine is under the control of the movement with the army back in barracks. The writer describes it as a 'real commune formed by unions, parties of the left and cells of the young'. There could well be some wishful thinking here as well, but with very little reporting of what is happening outside Tunis there isn't a lot to go off.
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Edited to add this comment from an American blogger in Tunis:
Tunisia's civil servants
Tunisia's civil servants revolt
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liveblog Quote: 1955 GMT:
liveblog
A Trotskyist version of
A Trotskyist version of events... (follow the link for the full article)
Tunisia: the revolutionary initiative of the masses continues
Part of the previous day's
Part of the previous day's article from the same group. Again I couldn't say how accurate the account or the interpretation is, or whether there's an element of wishful thinking...
Tunisia: as the ruling class manoeuvres at the top elements of dual power develop from below
Does anyone have any thoughts
Does anyone have any thoughts on the above posts? It's important after all and I'm surprised there isn't more discussion on here about events in Tunisia.
Quote: I'm surprised there
I'd guess that one of the reasons is that most people don't know all that much about Tunisia and also it's difficult to know what's happening. For instance, that International Marxist Tendency text about the declaration of the meeting in the city square - if it's as it says it is it's clearly an interesting development - and maybe my saying that the comparison with Portugal in the 70s was premature was itself premature, because it sounds like events could be moving very rapidly. Whether this moves on to occupations etc. is another matter. One of my objections, though, to comparing with previous revolutionary movements is that it blocks people from seeing what is new by imposing a safely clear model from the past onto a situation which is often quite different. Sure, there might be useful comparisons - but generally they're more the comparisons with the limitations of previous movements to try to make sure they don't get repeated than with the strengths (strengths which failed to develop because of these limitations). One of the limits of Portugal was the influence of the Catholic church amongst a large peasantry which generally played a conservative role there. How much does Islam effect people in Tunisia? How powerul is the peasantry there? I know very little about this (the Tunisian guy I know lives quite far away and he's not on the phone, but maybe i'll be able to have a longer chat with him about what's happening than i did last time - which was at a party - though i can't see me seeing him for over a week at the earliest).
Has anyone seen this about Albania? Mention this here, not to derail the thread at all, but because social movements throughout the world have an infuence on each other. I feel the next couple of years could see a far deeper social contestation globally but it would be terrible if what came out of these movements was a repeat of a hundred years ago - a turn towards state capitalism under the guise of socialism: as far as i can see, leftist parties, whether in Tunisia or Albania, are the ones making the most headway out of the crisis, or at least the ones trying to.
Thank you a lot Mark., ocelot
Thank you a lot Mark., ocelot and others for compiling all this information. I've been following these events and watching all the new developments very closely and telling other people about it. Although this information is limited, from what I've read there have been some really wonderful things that have happened. I hope it spreads far and wide.
Samotnaf wrote: Quote: I'm
Samotnaf
I'm sure you're right about this...
I think this is fair enough as well.
Was the Catholic influence on peasants in Portugal a big factor? There were plenty of farm occupations in the Alentejo (south of Lisbon) and this reflected patterns of land ownership with historical roots going back to the reconquest. Small owner occupiers of land in the north were probably more conservative. This is similar to Spain in the '30s. Anyway this is a discussion for another thread.
Tunisia seems to be the most secular country in the Arab world, though it's a secularism that has been backed by a police state for decades. I've seen no suggestion from within Tunisia that Islamism is a major force and the main Islamist grouping doesn't sound at all hardline. Obviously Islamism isn't the same thing as Islam and the religious background must have a wider influence.
I don't think I've seen any mention of the peasantry in the reports I've seen so far, which doesn't mean that they aren't important. I'm guessing really but i'd imagine that there's a similar process going on to counties like Portugal, Spain and Greece, with the young moving to the cities leaving the villages full of old people. Guessing again I'd expect that process to be a couple of decades behind southern Europe.
Yes, I started a new thread here as this one is getting unwieldy and the connection with Tunisia looks a bit tenuous. I agree that social movements around the world have an influence on each other though, even more so with the internet and TV coverage from the likes of Al Jazeera. I haven't looked back at coverage of European student unrest on Al Jazeera, but I'd hazard a guess that Millbank and the Italian protests were covered quite well, and without too much of the ideological filtering we get here. Tunisians and others would obviously have been watching.
I think you may be right. It's interesting that the mainstream media are still determined to look for an Islamist threat in Tunisia and the existence of the leftist parties is hardly acknowledged.
One of the problems with
One of the problems with trying to understand what is happening in Tunisia is that everyone (with the exception of neighbouring dictators and some hardline remnants of the old regime) now seems to support the revolution, but their own version of the revolution. So liberals and foreign journalists are seeing it as the Arab world's transition to democracy, Marxists are identifying the basis for the formation of workers councils and soviets and Islamists are celebrating the end of a secular dictatorship. No doubt there's some truth in all of this but it's easy for people to see what they want to see and harder to get an accurate overall picture.
Re Islamist interpretations I found this on angryarab.blogspot.com
Iran is insisting that Tunisian revolt are about Islam
Which led me to this link from PressTV
'Tunisia revolution inspired by Iran'
This isn't worth taking too seriously, at least as far as Tunisia goes, but if the uprising really does spread to other countries then the rise of Islamist movements may be a serious issue. In Iran the revolution initially involved Communists and nationalists and it wasn't obvious at first that the Islamists would end up in control. I'm old enough to remember reading an upbeat account of the Iranian revolution as it happened in Socialist Worker, before the Islamist reaction took hold.
An important report in
An important report in Spanish on the revolution in Tunis.
Octavo día del pueblo tunecino ¿Cae o no cae?
According to this the leftist and nationalist parties are expected to announce the formation of the '14 January Front' today while Moncef Marzouki's Congress of the Republic is expected to form some kind of alliance with Rachid Ghanouchi's Islamist party Al Nahda.
Hamami Jilani , 'a trade unionist in the telecommunications sector and leading member of the Workers Communist Party of Tunisia' is quoted as saying:
Edited to add machine translation
Hundreds of political
Hundreds of political prisoners in Tunisia yet to be released (Guardian)
Extracts from the liveblog
[youtube]N3S1yCM2U34[/youtube]
Extracts from the liveblog (note that in Tunisia the RCD is the old ruling party while the Algerian RCD is an opposition party)
Protests in Jordan
Protests in Jordan (al-bab.com)
Video: Tunisians embrace new
Video: Tunisians embrace new freedoms (BBC)
Raining on the Tunisian revolution
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Photos: Habib Bourguiba
Photos:
Habib Bourguiba Avenue tonight: tribute to the Tunisian revolution martyrs
Protests in Algiers today
La Red Sindical
La Red Sindical Euromediterránea valora la victoria histórica del pueblo tunecino
Edited to add machine translation
Video: several injured in
Video: several injured in pro-democracy march in Algiers (BBC)
Tunisian PM Mohamed Ghannouchi pledges to quit politics (BBC)
Abut that Youtube clip of the
Abut that Youtube clip of the cops joining demos: on French news last night the cops were asking the people to forgive them. There seemed to be an element of sincerity in saying this, but I wonder if it's just to save them from the future rage of the demonstrators. Still - demanding that their chiefs be prosecuted for ordering them to fire on the crowds indicates things are rapidly developing. If cops in the UK asked to be forgiven, say for the death of Ian Tomlinson, you'd know it was just part of their sick 2-faced mentality. But in Tunisia...? Any thoughts?
Btw, a friend pointed out that in Tunisia the vast majority of the army is made up of conscripts - hence the fraternisation with the demonstrators - it's their friends and relatives, in the same shit as them, that they're embracing.
Samotnaf wrote: If cops in
Samotnaf
This is only speculation but I can think of a number of possible reasons. Fear of losing their jobs, trying to preempt being victims of a kind of denazification process if the RCD is banned or disbanded, fear of being held to account for the repression of the previous regime. It's also quite possible that many of them genuinely didn't like the regime and were uneasy about the orders they were being given but were doing the job anyway.
Samotnaf
One of the IMT articles (#357) says something similar:
I also read something, I can't remember where, about conscripts being treated quite badly by their officers and by the professional side of the military generally.
Statement from the French
Statement from the French CNT-AIT
interview with a member of
interview with a member of the Association des travailleurs maghrébins en France: http://www.npa2009.org/content/tunisie-%C2%AB%E2%80%89le-combat-n%E2%80%99est-pas-fini%E2%80%89%E2%80%89%C2%BB
'Liberation caravan' heads to
'Liberation caravan' heads to Tunis (Al Jazeera)
Videos of the overnight march from Sidi Bouzid
liveblog
Noveno día del pueblo
Noveno día del pueblo tunecino: Se estira se estira y no se rompe
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So the '14 January Front' has been formed, calling amongst other things for "the construction of a national economy at the service of the people which puts the vital and strategic sectors under the control of the state, with the nationalisation of all the privatised companies and institutions" and "the rejection of all normalisation (?) of relations with the Zionist entity, in that way the support for all the national liberation movements of the Arab world"...
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Two texts from the ICC,
Two texts from the ICC, written by the French section:
The first "Bloody repression in Tunisia and Algeria: the bourgeoisie is a class of assassins!" tracks how the uprising came about, what has been happening in the country and the responses of the 'democratic' countries to the dangers in the situation.
The second "Campaigns about the fall of Ben Ali in Tunisia: how the media serves the ‘democratic’ bourgeoisie" has a rather self-explanatory title!
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Russia: bloggers on lessons
Russia: bloggers on lessons of Tunisian revolution
Just wanted to say thanks to
Just wanted to say thanks to Mark., ocelot, and others. This thread has been my main resource on what is happening there. Keep it up.
Al Jazeera videos: Tunisian
Al Jazeera videos:
Tunisian media free of fear
Exiled Tunisians gather to receive passports that will allow them to return home after years
Tunisia's ex-president's homes looted
Birthplace of Tunisia's revolution
Suicide that sparked a revolution
Rural Tunisian protesters
Rural Tunisian protesters demand removal of old guard (Guardian)
From the Moor Next Door
From the Moor Next Door blog
Second thoughts on the overthrow of Ben Ali
Kaplan on Tunisia, or defending autocratic stability
From the Arabist blog Tunisia
From the Arabist blog
Tunisia diary: Arrival (1)
Anti-government clashes erupt
Anti-government clashes erupt in Tunis (Al Jazeera)
Décimo día del pueblo
Décimo día del pueblo tunecino: Las vastas afueras toman la ciudad
Edited to add machine translation
Apologies for the long post
Apologies for the long post in Spanish. I've put up a link to a machine translation for what it's worth (the title should be 'the Tunisian people continues its revolution', not 'the Tunisian town continues its revolution'...). At the end of the original version of the article on the CGT site there are links to downloads in French and Arabic, of which the statement in French by Aziz Kirchen looks interesting.
El pueblo tunecino continúa su revolución (CGT North Africa)
machine translation
The divisions are starting to
The divisions are starting to show...
[youtube]SHjxvHjDLNA[/youtube]
Tunisia cabinet to be reshuffled (Al Jazeera)
Video: What will the West do?
Edited to add: I've just watched this last video and it's not that inspiring. The discussion still seems to centre around the West's perception of the threat of Islamism, which I suspect may be missing the point in Tunisia.
From the Arabist blog Tunisia
From the Arabist blog
Tunisia diary: Ammar's move? (2)
The view from the
The view from the International Marxist Tendency. This is part of a longer article. Again I'm not entirely sure how to judge the accuracy of their assessment of the situation.
“We are here to overthrow the government”
From angryarab.blogspot.com
From angryarab.blogspot.com ... suggestions that Al Jazeera and Qatar are backing Rashid al-Ghanouchi, leader of the Islamist An Nahda party?
Andrew Hammond in Tunisia
Video: Tunisian protesters
Video: Tunisian protesters defy curfew in demonstration at PM's office
From the Moor Next Door blog,
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From the Moor Next Door blog, in response to the last blog entry by the Arabist...
A new role for the Tunisian army?
Undécimo día del pueblo
Undécimo día del pueblo tunecino: No es por el paro, es por la dignidad
machine translation
From the Tunisia Scenario
From the Tunisia Scenario blog
Mass strike/more vacation
UGTT in Sfax, Tunisia's
UGTT in Sfax, Tunisia's second largest city calls for a general strike tomorrow: for the dissolution of the RCD and the resignation of the government:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gdIEmWXo4XjaARjY5ZIPggnQTZSA?docId=CNG.29e7455776488aeeedde8079cbe172f9.a1
Tunisie: les pro-gouvernement
Tunisie: les pro-gouvernement dispersés
edit: removed, duplication of
edit: removed, duplication of info on Egypt 25 Jan thread.
edit: removed to Egypt 25 Jan
edit: removed to Egypt 25 Jan thread