Got this paper and really liked it as it was well written eloquent and tackled important issues like Mental illness.Far better than Class War and some of the stereotypical negative Anarchist texts.
Thanks! I was 18 when I got my copy of this. A bunch of the anarchopunks in the town I lived had organised a gig in a church hall.
One of them had a few of these and dished them out - made quite an impression on me at the time, especially the graphics. (I was reading punk zines and stuff like Vague around then too, and the punks had also sold me a copy of Meltzer’s Q&As about anarchism).
aye, hundreds were given away free everywhere at the time, just good to have it scanned ( we only have an a4 scanner)
Attack Int also did some good pamphlets too + the tin tin book
Thanks! I was 18 when I got my copy of this. A bunch of the anarchopunks in the town I lived had organised a gig in a church hall.
One of them had a few of these and dished them out - made quite an impression on me at the time, especially the graphics. (I was reading punk zines and stuff like Vague around then too, and the punks had also sold me a copy of Meltzer’s Q&As about anarchism).
Yet more evidence(as if any was needed), that for all of it’s many defects and shortcomings, Anarcho Punk was fucking ace!
Tyneside: do you still have the Flamethrower anywhere? Would be interested to see it.
Noah: had been thinking of posting a link to this somewhere or other, but Crimethinc recently did an interesting piece on "Music as a Weapon: The Contentious Symbiosis of Punk Rock and Anarchism", which is worth a read. Very focused on the 90s/2000s US scene, but still got some thoughtprovoking stuff in.
Tyneside: do you still have the Flamethrower anywhere? Would be interested to see it.
Noah: had been thinking of posting a link to this somewhere or other, but Crimethinc recently did an interesting piece on "Music as a Weapon: The Contentious Symbiosis of Punk Rock and Anarchism", which is worth a read. Very focused on the 90s/2000s US scene, but still got some thoughtprovoking stuff in.
@tyneside - absolutely fine to spread that PDF around the place - I've pinched a few things from other sites and added them here. It helps get the word out and avoids too much centralisation...
I can sometimes use an A3 scanner when, um, some people aren't about. ;-)
@R Totale - Pretty sure I have a tattered copy of Flamethrower too. My recollection is that it was a bit more insurrectionist and Animal Liberation? So not so interesting for me (I inherited it some years later from a friend of a friend who was having a clearout).
@Noah - well anarchopunk was a mixed bag certainly but it's amusing to see former punks overcompensating with their workerist critiques of it. It was what we had and it was more fun than a lot of other things on offer despite the dour apocalyptics.
Noah - well anarchopunk was a mixed bag certainly but it's amusing to see former punks overcompensating with their workerist critiques of it. It was what we had and it was more fun than a lot of other things on offer despite the dour apocalyptics.
Haha, yes! Show me a anarchist condemning anarcho punk and I’ll show you an embarrassed former anarcho punk or a Westbourne Grove trendy fan of lefty faker clothes horses The Clash!
Fair enough, think I'd only ever heard of it from the mention in Death of a Paper Tiger: https://libcom.org/library/paper-tiger-class-war-aufheben-6 which made it sound pretty interesting, but at the same time I don't think it'll kill me to not read one more critique of 80s Class War.
Now a Non-Fungible Token, whatever that is:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/unikz-an-nft-could-reveal-a-little-more-about-the-past-of-banksy-301414396.html?fbclid=IwAR0DwBcZbkhlHdvi02rNXO4jsYrAsl5enZdtOiXnGKNncJXNenqD0GndNm8
Got this paper and really liked it as it was well written eloquent and tackled important issues like Mental illness.Far better than Class War and some of the stereotypical negative Anarchist texts.
As I understand it, Attack International was founded by a person, let's call them TS, who used to edit Class War as well (incidentally, on this, a former CW member told me that TS would deliberately leave spelling mistakes in the newspaper, to make it look more "working class"…).
Now a Non-Fungible Token, whatever that is:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/unikz-an-nft-could-reveal-a-little-more-about-the-past-of-banksy-301414396.html?fbclid=IwAR0DwBcZbkhlHdvi02rNXO4jsYrAsl5enZdtOiXnGKNncJXNenqD0GndNm8
...good lord. I bet the situs would have something to say about that.
Unfortunately the formatting there has prevented me from finding a way of downloading it in a reasonable resolution.
Still, it was nice to be reminded of:
"If you like being bullied, patronised and ordered around, join the Revolutionary Communist Party. After all, 200 students led by a boring academic can't be wrong, can they...?"
I remember this paper - someone mailed it to our address in Finland (I received mail from all ovar to po-box we had rented when still living in south-east Finland in a village called Miehikkälä - My backround was also in punk-counterculture - and when hardcore-punk came with it s uncompromising style of noisy trash-hard-core-fast-buzzing-sound and a look- or "uniform" of mixture f bought clothing and do-it-yourself punk-look-jackets-and jeans -it demanded a more deep cult following as original punk- and following new wave - came to become mainstream and -punk was most popular finnish-language rock-music and that contributed the hard core -punk to become quite widely spread in Finland - it s attitude of do-it-yourself and the fact that major labels didn t understand it s potential made it undergraund movement that kept it going. To partisipate you made contribution - so I started to publish our own zine with my friend - and we had a pand called "Pravda" (later Demonstraatio(demostration) - it s style was influenced very strongly by british anarcho-punk-peace-punk scene and especially Conflict and CRASS - and MDC from usa - but throuh Conflict etc bands I discovered that anarchism is a political or social programme for life without hierarchical authoritarian state-apparatus . Someone send me a copy of Black Flag - - I think it was issue from the 1985 - and it made quite impression to me - I also had phone conversations to CIRA library in Suisse - Marie -Christie Mikhailo spoke finnish as she had finnish backround and she send more stuff to us. So anarcho-punk had a role of anarchist movement growing and coming quite strong among youth in this country.
Attack - was made for my eyes to be easy-to-read (and anrchism put to be found -while reading between-lines) and a populist in a way that it tried to avoid difficult political jargon of social studies - and had humour in it s fake adverts etc - I still think that Class War should have devloped towards the more easy-to-find some common ground - for finnish reader CW s violent humour and language of being sometimes a bit patronizing in it s way to over simplify (and take a attitude of football-casuals/hooligans to political propaganda ) as in this country working class kids do get same basic educations as everyone - for 9 years of basic school and most of pubils continue to "lukio" -second grade of schooling -that continues giving general knowlage of history, languages etc and so! We still need easy to approach texts that would comment contemporary social issues and basic questions that need to be made clwear - in a way that readers can have this learning experience - not made everthing obvious and put in sloganistic rhetorics... ATTACK definately was a step towards this direction - We took our paper (Rwebel Worker) Kapinatyöläinen - to make some noise so that we could be noticed - not being lost in alternative ghertto - so we had very strong - slogans and violent - humourous aticles _ very much influenced of CW - although Kapinatyöläinen was near of Anarchosyndicalist federation -SAL-AIT - whch had some almost 400 members and local grops in all major towns in Finland - and our magazine being quated regulary basis in major newspapers like Helsingin Sanomat (used to be one of the biggest papers in europe and it tried to keep very high journalistic standarts - being owned by wealthy family - same that founded it and having liberal bourgeoise editorial line )...
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Got this paper and really
Got this paper and really liked it as it was well written eloquent and tackled important issues like Mental illness.Far better than Class War and some of the stereotypical negative Anarchist texts.
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Thanks! I was 18 when I got
Thanks! I was 18 when I got my copy of this. A bunch of the anarchopunks in the town I lived had organised a gig in a church hall.
One of them had a few of these and dished them out - made quite an impression on me at the time, especially the graphics. (I was reading punk zines and stuff like Vague around then too, and the punks had also sold me a copy of Meltzer’s Q&As about anarchism).
aye, hundreds were given away
aye, hundreds were given away free everywhere at the time, just good to have it scanned ( we only have an a4 scanner)
Attack Int also did some good pamphlets too + the tin tin book
we also have a slightly
we also have a slightly earlier newspaper in a similar vein called Flamethrower
ps , hope u dont mind but weve stolen your pdf for a future post on.........
https://tynesideanarchistarchive.wordpress.com/
:)
Fozzie wrote: Thanks! I was
Fozzie
Yet more evidence(as if any was needed), that for all of it’s many defects and shortcomings, Anarcho Punk was fucking ace!
Tyneside: do you still have
Tyneside: do you still have the Flamethrower anywhere? Would be interested to see it.
Noah: had been thinking of posting a link to this somewhere or other, but Crimethinc recently did an interesting piece on "Music as a Weapon: The Contentious Symbiosis of Punk Rock and Anarchism", which is worth a read. Very focused on the 90s/2000s US scene, but still got some thoughtprovoking stuff in.
R Totale wrote: Tyneside: do
R Totale
Thanks RT, I’ll have a look after work tomorrow.
@tyneside - absolutely fine
@tyneside - absolutely fine to spread that PDF around the place - I've pinched a few things from other sites and added them here. It helps get the word out and avoids too much centralisation...
I can sometimes use an A3 scanner when, um, some people aren't about. ;-)
@R Totale - Pretty sure I have a tattered copy of Flamethrower too. My recollection is that it was a bit more insurrectionist and Animal Liberation? So not so interesting for me (I inherited it some years later from a friend of a friend who was having a clearout).
@Noah - well anarchopunk was a mixed bag certainly but it's amusing to see former punks overcompensating with their workerist critiques of it. It was what we had and it was more fun than a lot of other things on offer despite the dour apocalyptics.
Tyneside!,An in accurate one
Tyneside!,An in accurate one liner is hardly worthy of comment.What I said was correct-try backing up your banal remark or it’s pointless
Quote: Noah - well
Haha, yes! Show me a anarchist condemning anarcho punk and I’ll show you an embarrassed former anarcho punk or a Westbourne Grove trendy fan of lefty faker clothes horses The Clash!
Fair enough, think I'd only
Fair enough, think I'd only ever heard of it from the mention in Death of a Paper Tiger: https://libcom.org/library/paper-tiger-class-war-aufheben-6 which made it sound pretty interesting, but at the same time I don't think it'll kill me to not read one more critique of 80s Class War.
Well I think that particular
Well I think that particular piece is already on libcom:
https://libcom.org/history/view-class-war-former-member-julian-1986
I'll dig out the actual thing and see if it's worth doing something with...
Ah, turns out the Tyneside
Ah, turns out the Tyneside Anarchist Archive have now scanned it: https://tynesideanarchistarchive.wordpress.com/2020/07/26/flame-thrower/
Ah ok cool. I remember
Ah ok cool. I remember thinking it wasn’t a great idea to scan that in at work.
As opposed to nice,
As opposed to nice, respectable stuff like Attack/Xtra/Wolverine? ;)
Lol. Shh.
Lol. Shh. ;)
Also the politics were less
Also the politics were less “libcom” I guess. Whatever that is.
Now a Non-Fungible Token,
Now a Non-Fungible Token, whatever that is:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/unikz-an-nft-could-reveal-a-little-more-about-the-past-of-banksy-301414396.html?fbclid=IwAR0DwBcZbkhlHdvi02rNXO4jsYrAsl5enZdtOiXnGKNncJXNenqD0GndNm8
freemind wrote: Got this
freemind
As I understand it, Attack International was founded by a person, let's call them TS, who used to edit Class War as well (incidentally, on this, a former CW member told me that TS would deliberately leave spelling mistakes in the newspaper, to make it look more "working class"…).
Fozzie wrote: Now a
Fozzie
...good lord. I bet the situs would have something to say about that.
Attack International's…
Attack International's wildly sectarian and popular anti-RCP poster has made it to the University of Michigan Library archive:
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?id=S-LBC2IC-X-SCLP0016%5DSCLP_0016_AN
Unfortunately the formatting there has prevented me from finding a way of downloading it in a reasonable resolution.
Still, it was nice to be reminded of:
I remember this paper -…
I remember this paper - someone mailed it to our address in Finland (I received mail from all ovar to po-box we had rented when still living in south-east Finland in a village called Miehikkälä - My backround was also in punk-counterculture - and when hardcore-punk came with it s uncompromising style of noisy trash-hard-core-fast-buzzing-sound and a look- or "uniform" of mixture f bought clothing and do-it-yourself punk-look-jackets-and jeans -it demanded a more deep cult following as original punk- and following new wave - came to become mainstream and -punk was most popular finnish-language rock-music and that contributed the hard core -punk to become quite widely spread in Finland - it s attitude of do-it-yourself and the fact that major labels didn t understand it s potential made it undergraund movement that kept it going. To partisipate you made contribution - so I started to publish our own zine with my friend - and we had a pand called "Pravda" (later Demonstraatio(demostration) - it s style was influenced very strongly by british anarcho-punk-peace-punk scene and especially Conflict and CRASS - and MDC from usa - but throuh Conflict etc bands I discovered that anarchism is a political or social programme for life without hierarchical authoritarian state-apparatus . Someone send me a copy of Black Flag - - I think it was issue from the 1985 - and it made quite impression to me - I also had phone conversations to CIRA library in Suisse - Marie -Christie Mikhailo spoke finnish as she had finnish backround and she send more stuff to us. So anarcho-punk had a role of anarchist movement growing and coming quite strong among youth in this country.
Attack - was made for my eyes to be easy-to-read (and anrchism put to be found -while reading between-lines) and a populist in a way that it tried to avoid difficult political jargon of social studies - and had humour in it s fake adverts etc - I still think that Class War should have devloped towards the more easy-to-find some common ground - for finnish reader CW s violent humour and language of being sometimes a bit patronizing in it s way to over simplify (and take a attitude of football-casuals/hooligans to political propaganda ) as in this country working class kids do get same basic educations as everyone - for 9 years of basic school and most of pubils continue to "lukio" -second grade of schooling -that continues giving general knowlage of history, languages etc and so! We still need easy to approach texts that would comment contemporary social issues and basic questions that need to be made clwear - in a way that readers can have this learning experience - not made everthing obvious and put in sloganistic rhetorics... ATTACK definately was a step towards this direction - We took our paper (Rwebel Worker) Kapinatyöläinen - to make some noise so that we could be noticed - not being lost in alternative ghertto - so we had very strong - slogans and violent - humourous aticles _ very much influenced of CW - although Kapinatyöläinen was near of Anarchosyndicalist federation -SAL-AIT - whch had some almost 400 members and local grops in all major towns in Finland - and our magazine being quated regulary basis in major newspapers like Helsingin Sanomat (used to be one of the biggest papers in europe and it tried to keep very high journalistic standarts - being owned by wealthy family - same that founded it and having liberal bourgeoise editorial line )...