Declaration of an assembly of 3000 on Saturday 28th May:
For a long time now, decisions are taken for us, without us.
We are workers, unemployed, pensioners, youth who came to Syntagma to struggle for our lives and our futures.
We are here because we know that the solution to our problems can only come from us.
We invite all Athenians, the workers, the unemployed and the youth to Syntagma, and the entire society to fill up the squares and to take life into its hands.
There, in the squares, we shall co-shape all our demands.
We call all workers who will be striking in the coming period to end up and to remain at Syntagma.
We will not leave the squares before those who lead us here leave first: Governments, the Troika, Banks, Memorandums and everyone who exploits us.
We tell them that the debt is not ours.
DIRECT DEMOCRACY NOW!
EQUALITY – JUSTICE – DIGNITY!
The only defeated struggle is the one that was never given!
I heard from a contact that last night in Syntagma Square there were about 50,000 people, everyone occupying it, while excluding all the political parties. There were 2-3000 people in a big assembly, definitely some anarchists, but overall people who are outside any scene. This was the 5th night. The decisions of the assembly (including its statements and its exclusion of fascists) have been really exciting. The big decision last night was not only to continue the occupation and assembly of this square, which is in front of the Greek Parliament, but also, starting today, to occupy many of the smaller squares in the neighborhoods, and begin assemblies there to begin self-organizing locally. Another thing posed by the central assembly is a self-organized, indefinite wildcat general strike, as opposed to the symbolic strikes organized by the big unions, but it's not clear if this is yet anywhere close to realistic.
Quote: The health ministry
http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/50458
Edit: more about this here
Then with the tanks, now with
Then with the tanks, now with the banks: Live coverage of commemorative demonstrations for the Nov 17 uprising in Athens
Greece:
Greece: Gatherings/Demonstrations for the November 17th
Austerity and fascism In
Austerity and fascism In Greece
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/11/mark-ames-austerity-fascism-in-greece-–-the-real-1-doctrine.html
Yanis Varoufakis: The
Yanis Varoufakis: The serpent’s egg hatchlings in Greece’s postmodern great depression
Quote: On Sunday, trade
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2011/11/21/the-trade-union-of-greece’s-public-power-corporation-genop-dei-has-occupied-and-holds-the-building-issuing-electricity-disconnection-orders-–-full-statement/
Quote: Today is the day of
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2011/12/01/general-strike-marches-and-blockades-of-workplaces/
Anyone else have any more news/updates? Seems like things are pretty tame by recent Greek standards for a general strike.
well, everything seemed to
well, everything seemed to have been democratic, peaceful and quiet and of course most importantly d e m o c r a t i c so that everything can remain the same (according to the journalists):
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_01/12/2011_417195
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2011/12/01/unions-take-to-the-streets-in-general-strike%E2%80%8E/
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2011/12/01/athens-all-quiet-at-protest-front-strike-dec-1-except-some-tear-gas/
As far as it can be grasped
As far as it can be grasped what is the general feeling among the working class of some of these mental and reactionary bastards? Is it like some BNP people being in power?
Quote: Little stories from
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2011/12/04/little-stories-from-imf-run-greece-autonomous-strike-of-workers-at-steelworks-factory-in-athens-enters-its-35th-day/
New article from
New article from Blaumachen:
http://www.blaumachen.gr/2011/12/without-you-not-a-single-cog-turns%E2%80%A6/
(No subject)
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Quote: 400 workers in the
http://www.anarkismo.net/article/21610
Quote: Today, January 17th
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/01/17/athens-sees-its-first-city-wide-strike-as-workers-begin-to-break-away-from-the-control-of-reformist-trade-unions/
Troika: slash salaries and
Troika: slash salaries and wages by 25%
FYI
FYI
Anarchist rally and march in
Anarchist rally and march in Athens on Saturday
[youtube]2V9WPx3KtXU[/youtube]
Hospital workers in Kilkis
Hospital workers in Kilkis will be occupying and managing their hospital:
http://en.contrainfo.espiv.net/2012/02/05/kilkis-northern-greece-occupation-and-self-management-of-the-citys-general-hospital-by-the-workers/
From the Athens News Parties
From the Athens News
Parties face troika deadline at noon
Nationwide general strike on Tuesday
From Occupied London People
From Occupied London
People take to the streets, Syntagma metro station re-opens after popular pressure: emergency General Strike underway, against 20% wage decreases and other shock doctrine measures
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Athens News: Press Watch, Feb 7
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Guardian: live updates
The Guardian was talking
The Guardian was talking about some tear gas deployment and that the Syntagma Sq was cleared. I guess that means there was some clashes between the riot police and the protesters. In the Guardian report it says there was 10.000 people for protesting. As they put it:
Helena Smith
I have the feeling that on a different scale but this is going on in Europe. Days of actions and similar tactics are rendered impossibly difficult by the same austerity measures that they are trying to resist.
I don't want to run ahead much, but it seem that recently, with the gradual disappearance of the occupy sites, the lack of "days of actions" along with the steadily rising "market confidence" signals the end of the most recent battles against the austerity regime. Though the counter-example could be Romania where the political pressure of the protests were significant enough to make the PM resign, but I have no doubts that even in the Romanian case it doesn't really mean that the government that be would abandon the cuts, as it was exactly the Greek case, where the PM went in to some dodgy political game, which resulted his resignation, but the government agenda goes on under the umbrella of "unity government" informed by the EU institutions.
Would that mean that the recently slightly increased radical political activity will go down along with the mainstream unions protests, or perhaps this is just the beginning of a new phase? Do you think there's a possibility for the radical, explicitly anti-capitalist movements to inspire further struggles?
Quote: I have the feeling
In the london riots thread i said that we should be careful in sanctimoniously condemning the looters because we still didn't know if in the future, many of us would have to do the very same thing just to eat...I think the above quote clears that many will become closer to the looter's tactics wether we like it or not, even if simply to be able to carry on fighting more than to get a brand new plasma tv...Not yet but is getting closer and closer...How many? haven't got a clue
soc wrote: In the Guardian
soc
The Athens News says 25,000, but still it looks low-key compared to demos last year.
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What was the flag they were
What was the flag they were unfurling at .57? It looked like it had a swastika on it.
Yes, they burnt a German flag
Yes, they burnt a German flag but had some trouble with it, maybe because of the rain. I think the idea was to burn the Nazi flag as well.
The Athens News
It might be clearer in this video.
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Demonstrating in the rain.
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http://www.occupiedlondon.org
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/02/09/general-strike-10-11-feb-2012/
this link is
this link is working:
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/02/09/48-hour-general-strike-announced-for-february-10-11/
soc wrote: In the Guardian
soc
These entries from the Teacher Dude blog seem to support this pessimistic view:
As Greece drifts towards disaster, what happens next?
What we've lost - A personal account of the crisis in Greece
Greeks take to the streets after austerity agreement
From the Athens News Wages
From the Athens News
Wages axed with pension cuts added under EU duress
The troika agreement: the text
Edit: The memorandum documents: the final versions
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Interview with economist Yanis Varoufakis, starts at 12.43
[youtube]Rt8Dv15FtsM[/youtube]
Somehow I was reminded by the
Somehow I was reminded by the current situation of Greece to one of my earliest reading, Emile Zola's Germinal. Workers of the coal mine launch a strike during the reign of Napoleon the Third because of the miserable conditions and pay. After their union budget wears out the starvation kicks in, which results in violent actions against the company's property, and against the Belgian strike-breakers that were sent to the mine. The government provide troops for protecting the mining sites and the Belgian workers, and at a major confrontation the soldiers open fire to the crowd. At the end, the starvation and the brutal treatment forces the workers to accept the new contract and go back to work. As the people of the mining town pick up work again, the nihilist-anarchist Russian engineer sabotaged the structural columns of the mine, and the tunnels collapse, and the whole mine submerge with heavy death toll and workers trapped underground.
This story resonates to most of the workers' struggles in history, but especially fit to the situation in Greece. My fear is that the extreme poverty and fatigue of struggle would drive the workers in Greece to flee in to the arms of the popular far-right with its nationalist and racist agenda, similarly to the Hungarian situation where there were not even chance to any workers' movement, let alone revolutionary movement due to the Eastern-Europe issue with the whole notion of class war. It's truly saddening and I hope that the workers in Greece would not be trapped under the establishment that is running ahead to its total collapse.
[Update]: Looking at the developments in Athens and elsewhere, this is going to be perhaps the most crucial moment for what's gonna happen in the next couple of decades with them. I guess the insurrection just won't happen due the reasons above, but to avoid the long term poverty, there would be no other way to go.
Occupied London
Guardian
Hey guys, while I understand
Hey guys, while I understand the pessimism, and I don't wanna draw false dichotomies between 'activism' and working class self-organisation (neither the practice nor the poster ;) ), but surely Soc's point about poverty and desperation leading to lower numbers on demos etc is more useful as an illustration of the alienated, spectacular nature of setpiece city centre demos? I mean, it was different back in October when there were several thousand workers mobilised and willing to storm Parliament to block an austerity bill, but these sorts of highly symbolic actions (which - at best - are attempts to 'raise consciousness', something I'd find pretty patronising if I was one of the 30% odd of Greeks below the poverty line) don't in themselves offer any solutions to the crisis, so why would you lose a day's pay?
Personally speaking, I'd place much more significance in the occupied hospital and look for evidence of that developing and/or spreading, rather than counting heads on A to B marches. I'd even go as far to say that if people are laughing off the demos to go into work and organise occupations then that's a positive development.
Coverage on Occupied
Coverage on Occupied London
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/tag/february-10-11-general-strike/
Caiman del Barrio wrote: Hey
Caiman del Barrio
My point wasn't about the demos themselves, it was a poor turnout for the strike day. The other thing is, that I am aware of the hospital occupations etc. but it was going on for a while now, and to me (as a complete outsider, hanging on the news updates) it seems that all kind of militancy is in decline in Greece. I agree with you on the spectacular and symbolical events, but I think there's always a correlation between the militant mass demonstrations on these symbolical places and the resistance elsewhere in the social life. It is especially related because the state now appears the single most important enforcer of the worsening conditions of the proletarians in Greece, which poses more threat on people who are engage in any kind of direct action, strike, etc..
Having said this, I want to clarify, that I'm not definitely pessimistic about the situation in Greece completely, as my original question supposed to suggest that I think there's an alternative to the apathy: and that would be the rising tide of more radical movements, because the bred-and-butter struggles appear to be useless against the austerity regime.
In any case, I would like to point out a "benefit night" tonight:
I hope some of you will attend and we can discuss the developments!
On the "downturn" thing. 300
On the "downturn" thing. 300 people in Europe froze to death last week in a wave of Siberian weather. Give people a bit of a chance, like. When there's no people on the streets when it's warm and sunny again, then fair enough. (Fair play to the Romanians for demonstrating through the blizzards, tho...)
Going off this Athens News
Going off this Athens News report the coalition government shows signs of falling apart:
Cabinet walkouts deepen crisis, force reshuffle
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From Contra Info
Greece: First day of nationwide protest mobilization
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From Occupied London
Mental health workers continue the occupation of the Ministry of Health: statement and call for support
Popular mobilisations in Greece continue, as rumours regarding the date of the voting of the new memorandum go wild
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Photos
More photos Anger as
More photos
Anger as parliament votes on bailout (Athens News)
“So it’s final now…” statement by Real Democracy Now
Police union threatens to
Police union threatens to arrest EU and IMF officials http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/02/10/uk-greece-police-idUKTRE8190UO20120210
RedEd wrote: Police union
RedEd
Entdinglichung wrote: RedEd
Entdinglichung
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(July 2011, taken from http://teacherdudebbq.blogspot.com/)
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(yesterday)
Of course ACAB, but I thought
Of course ACAB, but I thought it was an interesting development.
RedEd - I agree really, it
RedEd - I agree really, it just seemed like a good opportunity to post up that video.
From Occupied London Athens
From Occupied London
Athens and all major greek cities build up for crucial demonstrations of February 12
Meanwhile the political crisis within the government continues, with some MPs from both PASOK and ND saying they will vote against. It's still expected to be voted through though.
A Eurobank and Starbuck set
A Eurobank and Starbuck set ablaze atm, updates and live feed from Syntagma Square:
http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/53244
Occupied London updates from
Occupied London updates from Athens: part 1 | part 2
Occupied London
radiobubble.gr live blog
radiobubble.gr
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The austerity bill has been voted through.
The Athens News
Guardian report also here
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in the Telegraph
http://twitter.com/#!/teacherdude/
BURN YOU FUCKERS!
BURN YOU FUCKERS!
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When I was in the local
When I was in the local pizzeria waiting for my takeout, I heard the lady on BBC News draw a false dichotomy between anarchists and 'normal' people with regards the violence. I think the dude making my food was perturbed by this as well, cos he switched over to the Inter Milan game soon after. ;)
subprole wrote: BURN YOU
subprole
The Greeks are so fucking radical!
Quote: The Greeks are so
No, it is only because the »Greek riot policemen have a tendency to crack under pressure!«:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFzBW0dZsaU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXjhhVbO0qk
First video is funny. So
First video is funny.
So you're saying that the Greek protestors would refrain from more violent acts of direct action, if the riot police used more brutal methods to repress them? Given the economic conditions in Greece, I think that it could possibly have an opposite effect. In some instances, police brutality tends to radicalize the working class (that's if you don't accuse the participants of being 'petit-bourgeois anarchists,' who don't conform to your standards of respectable organization) into more overt acts of revolutionary activity. Look at what took place in London and Oakland.
Some people may say that modes of activity such as these protests are marginalizing or whatever, but in the right conditions, an assault against the state and capital are only the beginning.
I couldn't be serious about
I couldn't be serious about it if you have read it in combination with the video, but that's the problem with discussions in a forum.
Just in case you haven't noticed: police brutality in Greece has already radicalised many proletarians and youths - not only anarchists (anarchism in Greece is in many ways different from anarchism anywhere else) and not only since 2008.
As many people in Greece say, the current situation still far away from revolutionary escalation.
Ahh, yeah, I didn't see it in
Ahh, yeah, I didn't see it in the comment section, my bad. The events in Greece that have been unfolding for quite some time have been interesting to watch, so I am at least somewhat aware of what's been taking place. That US imperialism wants to have a hand in increasing its militarization is not in the least bit surprising, and if social revolution occurs in Greece, the US will of course have to orchestrate the counter-revolutionary nuisance that it embodies, directly or indirectly. People in Greece may say that revolution is somewhere off in the distance, but from where I'm at, it looks a hell of a lot closer than what we are. Actual revolt is a lot more sporadic, and the day cops are molotoved will be something else. I guess it's all a matter of context.
When I referenced the concept of 'proper organization,' I wasn't actually referring to you. You probably know this, but I just want to ensure there isn't any miscommunication taking place.
A post by Dimitris on the
A post by Dimitris on the urban75 thread - follow link for more photos and videos
From the Athens News: The
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From the Athens News: The morning after ----- News bites @ 9
Well-well, it seems that
Well-well, it seems that Greece now again at the border line of insurrection. It was indeed to hasty to conclude from the poor numbers of the recent strike that apathy is spreading all over.
I am actually impressed. Years of battles, repression, harassment, casualisation, existential threatening, and there were impressive numbers on the street, with the will to fight against the austerity, but in many way they are fighting against the whole political establishment too.
Given the history of the recent struggles, there's also a good chance that the Greek proletarians are pushed to the tipping point, to try to overthrow the complete political system. If the political crisis spreads just a tiny bit further, there's no doubt that Greece will default, and given the EU climate, that would bring down Portugal and Spain, and perhaps could cause a major impact on Italy. I'm not sure about Ireland, I've read only fragments how exposed they are. So there's a good chance that a Greek coup or revolution would trigger a South-European political turmoil, even possibly a revolutionary wave and/or counter-revolutionary "state of emergency".
Given that the facade is already crumbling, this could be perhaps the historical moment where the European dream willl just fall apart. Nobody can ignore the controversy here: While the workers in Greece are struggling against their government, their democratic dictatorship, the markets are happy to see these austerity steps, that are cutting to the bone.
Markets are happy = poverty and powerlessness is rising. And the liberal democracy is slowly giving way to the face-to-face authoritarianism.
Guardian wrote: 12.19pm: As
Guardian
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soc wrote: Well-well, it
soc
This article by Demetra Kotouza from December 2011 sees the wider Greek struggles as mired in swamp of resignation and despair rather than a revolutionary situation. In some senses, February 12th's giant burning and rioting session seems just more of the same, impressive and determined as it was. A lot of places have been occupied in the last few days throughout Greece. Maybe there is more mileage in this and the direct resistance to price rises in the form of mass looting and reconnecting cut off electric supplies, public non-payments of travel and road tolls and so on. Trouble is all the focus gets put on the fire and the flames.
http://www.metamute.org/editorial/articles/illegitimacy-demands
bartleby1977 wrote: soc
bartleby1977
Thank you for linking this article, I think it deserves some attention. However, what I've read, he comes to a slightly different conclusion. I think, we can all agree that the recent cycle of struggles can not establish a united working class front, at least not in the sense as it was envisioned by many revolutionaries, and was in front of the struggles like the ones in the revolutionary wave of 1917. The article you linked points out correctly, that the living "working class experience" is missing, and probably lost for good anyway. I would argue though, that the support of the KKE and PAME is still refer to a segment of the working class that seeks its "traditional" role within capitalism, and tries to revive the organisational forms of the past, which saw the most suitable place for struggle on the shop floor. As an ideological nostalgia addressed to the older generations of the working class and those elements who had relatively stable working conditions before the austerity regime was out in force.
It is probably a quite good approach to see segments of the working class in their own, and in their relation to the economy and the class as a whole. As a political vehicle the controlled distribution of labour became incredibly efficient weapon in the hand of the ruling class. It is controlled because it was the the state and governments who forged the policies and gave a shape of the modern class divisions. For example, the age policies. If the minimum wage is different for different age groups, it will eventually will produce a sharp division between the different generations. Or the education, where the students of the last one-two decade saw the gap raised between them and those generations who had their education funded by the state. The declining of the living standards therefore affect these subdivisions in completely different way and resulting a fragmented movement against the austerity regime, and the reproduction crisis.
But there's a room here for a revolutionary perspective. In fact, I would argue that similar situations in history are able to produce coherent revolutionary movement. This could be the time, when the reproduction crisis (bread-and-butter struggles) and the loss of perspectives and shattered pictures of democratic resolution of this turmoil could give a birth of a fundamentally radical, far reaching movement.
Greece has a tendency to
Greece has a tendency to restore my revolutionary vigor.
bartleby1977 wrote: Demetra
bartleby1977
I think she's probably right about this.
Interview in Vice Magazine:
Interview in Vice Magazine: Somehow Athens just got worse
The interviewee makes a distinction between 'hooligans' and 'anarchists, I don't know with what accuracy.
From Occupied London A
From Occupied London
A summary of anti-austerity demonstrations of 12/02/2012
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Teacher Dude reports from Thessaloniki
KriegPhilosophy wrote: Greece
KriegPhilosophy
The austerity measures are horrible in themselves, but I can't help but feel joy every time I see the Greek working class taking it to the streets after getting fucked over for so long. Those who assert that the Greeks are just going to resign themselves to accepting these measures and go about business as usual after blowing off some steam are cynics, social revolution arises from extreme antagonisms that exist between the working class and economic/political conditions; the conditions in Greece being almost perfect for its propagation, as if it already hasn't taken place.
If Greece were to ignite revolutionary activity throughout Europe, it would be just outright amazing. A collapse of the EU would definitely have an impact on our economy, and a decline in our conditions beyond the mitigation of capital would radicalize more of the working class, forcing it to shake itself out of its pacifistic complacency, especially amongst the liberal elements who see non-violence as the only justifiable means.
One can dream in a teleological manner, right? My post may across as somewhat naive, but frankly, I don't give a shit. Hope is what keeps me sane in a world of madness, and the inspiration of the working class taking action against the ruling class is what gives me hope.
Let's stop wishing and start
Let's stop wishing and start actually doing. Greece is such a great opportunity to start autonomous collectives and Free free markets that reading about the turmoil makes me hard with envy.
While I don't know of anything "on the ground" I have a huge feeling that anarchists are conspicuously inactive. Hell there should be black blocs defending those protesters, and there's just enough militant people out there to confront the police and actually win
Mark. wrote: bartleby1977
Mark.
Absolutely but despairity can inverse quickly and turn into a revolutionary situation. The Paris Commune is a perfect example of this.
The anti authoritarian revolutionary left in Greece needs to take advantage of this and try to inverse it. I'm not sure how they would go about it but it's definitely possible.
Ambrose wrote: While I don't
Ambrose
I get the opposite impression: that anarchists are doing all they can, sometimes to the point of getting themselves locked up or even killed for nothing. Anarchists are never going to be in a positions to defend protests or whatever, we are only ever going to be in a position to tell/help/facilitate people to defend themselves.
Edit: after all, if a political faction (like 'the anarchists') can make sure an action happens by regulating and supervising it, then from our point of view it shouldn't happen at all, and should be subverted by any means available.
Ambrose wrote: Let's stop
Ambrose
There's nothing we can do for proletarians other than what the most active anarchists are already doing within organized labor, which tends to subsume them into its activities. The working class will violently revolt when it's in their material interests to do so, and until these interests begin to emerge, agitators amongst the majority of proletarians are going to be perceived as extremists isolated from the sentiments of the 'nation.' Been there, done that, and those that are most afflicted by the class division and state oppression are more receptive to revolutionary concepts, i.e. 'lumpen-proletariat,' who have been revolting against their own conditions for quite some time. If anything, there needs to be more solidarity fostered amongst the segments of the working class, but this may only be possible on a macro-level when its interests begin to intersect.
Unless the entire class is comprised of anarchists and Ultra-Left Marxists, revolution is going to be a long drawn out process that is dependent upon the economic and historical conditions peculiar to its locality. Capital's ideological hegemony has been thoroughly entrenched into the minds of a significant portion of the working class in most developed nations, which impedes the inception of this process. Fucking AFL-CIO.
I'm not saying that revolutionary agitation or organizing within the working class is futile, because it certainly is not, in consideration of what's taken place over the past couple years; but for revolution to actually manifest itself, there is going to have to be a period of near unbearable conditions, which should of course be fought against, precipitating the overthrow of class society when it can no longer concede reform, such as in Greece.
We can build collectives, community centers, and dual-power, but in the wider context, we are not the revolution. We need the means of production, more than we need permaculture communism. Maybe I'll catch hell for this post, but I'm not sweating it.
Updates, things are sitll
Updates, things are sitll kicking off.
bullets from police gun found near Athens law school
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/02/14/bullets-from-police-guns-were-found-in-front-of-the-law-school/
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/02/13/more-marches-on-1322012-in-patras-and-agrinio-calls-for-marching-tomorrow-as-well/
Occupied London
school students kick
school students kick off
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/02/14/over-500-school-students-are-marching-in-crete
RedEd wrote: Edit: after
RedEd
Haha I agree completely! Platformism = fail. Perhaps my views are skewed by my choice of media sources. Which is simply RawStory.
And I agree with no.25 as well, to the T in fact.
video from
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video from http://prezatv.blogspot.com/2012/02/video_15.html
http://twitter.com/#!/thesspirit
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2012/02/15/whats-up-in-greece-on-feb-1512/
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/02/15/employees-of-the-organisation-of-council-estates-are-threatening-to-commit-suicide-jumbing-from-the-organisatins-balcony/
Edit: from the Athens News
Paul Mason on Newsnight:
Paul Mason on Newsnight: Riots as Greeks signal they have had enough austerity
http://twitter.com/#!/paulmasonnews
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Telegraph: Greek economy spirals down as EU forces final catharsis
Guardian: Eurozone crisis live
Front page of The Workers,
Front page of The Workers, the newspaper brought out by striking employees at Eleftherotypia, which has filed for bankruptcy
Athens News
http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/53307
Edited to add:
Socialist Worker has this from Eleftherotypia workers’ committee member Moissis Litsis
The Spanish paper Diagonal has an interview with Moissis Litsis, machine translation here.
Report in Spanish: http://www.alasbarricadas.org/noticias/node/19701
Edit2:
http://ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_15/02/2012_428133
Guardian wrote: 1.35pm:
Guardian
This is just plain funny. Now that these politicians saw that their influence in Greece could vanish due to the possibility of a non-EU-conform government (I guess it's about the LAOS and the KKE), they actually blackmailing the Greek citizens directly: "We will fuck you up if you don't vote for the appropriate parties." There's no rival of capitalist politics in terms of stupidity.
FT: More on leaked Greek debt
FT: More on leaked Greek debt deal documents
FT: Bailout 1.3 (maybe)
It looks more and more like the bailout is unravelling which leaves the question of what actually happens if Greece defaults.
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The Mail picked up on the OEK suicide threat story:
I just watched Newsnight and
I just watched Newsnight and the first half was about the possibility (or probability?) of a Greek default and the likely consequences (on iplayer tomorrow).
http://greekleftreview.wordpr
http://greekleftreview.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/an-absolute-refusal/
http://www.coalitionofresista
http://www.coalitionofresistance.org.uk/2012/02/workers-control-in-greece-eleftherotypias-workers-are-back-with-their-own-newspaper/
Moisis Litsis
Democracy in
Democracy in Greece...
Bailout, PSI hang in the balance (Athens News)
Opinion
Opinion polls:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_legislative_election,_2012#Opinion_polls
Quote: From Wednesday, Feb.
well, does anybody know if the content has changed? in case they are continuing writing the same shit in a self-managed way - elefterotypia is considered to be a pro-p.a.s.o.k newspaper - the closure of this publication seems rather a good thing.
its tricky, i mean if the
its tricky, i mean if the trojka dont get what they want and greece defaults, will even more people lose their jobs?
subprole wrote: well, does
subprole
I always thought Eleftherotypia was the best Greek daily, though it's the best part of 20 years since I've lived in Greece and I can't really speak for how it's been more recently. As I remember it seemed pretty independent of PASOK, unlike, say, Ta Nea. The alabarricadas report compares it to the Spanish daily Público which seems a fair comparison to me. In any case it employed 800 people. Do you think it's a good thing that they're losing their jobs?
Edit: There's a translation of the Diagonal interview with Moisis Litsis here
Quote: Far-right thug with
Makis Voridis has now joined New Democracy after voting for the memorandum and being expelled from LAOS.
http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/8/53401
School children take on the
School children take on the riot police in Syntagma with help from Loukanikos: video
http://twitter.com/#!/teacherdude
BBC: Paul Mason, Struggling
BBC: Paul Mason, Struggling Greeks losing belief in the state
Meanwhile back in
Meanwhile back in Germany...
So Schäuble is calling for Greek elections in April to be cancelled and the current technocrat-led coalition of politicians (ND, LAOS, PASOK) to be replaced by a fully unelected technocrat dictatorship. The estimation is that Merkel will win the battle with Schäuble by Monday's eurogroup meeting which is supposed to announce the go-ahead for the second 130m bail-out. However if Schäuble makes enough fuss, that may encourage CDU politicians in Germany to break the whip in the 27th Feb vote in the Bundestag which is supposed to rubber-stamp the bail-out.
But that's only one side to the "deal". The other is the "voluntary" restructuring (write-down) of 50-60% of existing Greek debt by private bondholders. However, this part is being called into question by the fact that the ECB is trying to avoid any writedowns on its holdings. Now UBS have opined that this effectively suborns the privately held debt relative to the ECB held stuff, which violates the "voluntary" nature of the restructuring, such that if the Greek government enforces the deal on the private holders via the Collective Action Clauses (CACs - that force minority bondholders to accept the deal if the majority have) under those conditions, that could trigger Credit Default Swap payouts - the very thing that the whole negotiated restructuring process is supposed to avoid.
(See Bloomberg: ECB Plan to Shield Its Greek Bonds May Subordinate Some Holders, UBS Says & Bloomberg: Germany Sees Deal Within Days, Aims to Avoid Swap Delay)
The other thing is that currently, the agreed restructuring needs to take place before the Euro bailout can be paid out.
Summary: despite the current flurry of positive briefing, there is a good number of possibilities of this situation going tits-up and tumbling into a car-crash default, even without the fact that Paul Mason has pointed out above - i.e. that the Greek politicians and state can't actually deliver shit at the moment.
Paul Mason had a long report
Paul Mason had a long report on Newsnight just now, on iplayer from sometime tomorrow. Also a shorter Radio 4 report here which I think is available outside the UK.
John Holloway: Greece shows
John Holloway: Greece shows us how to protest against a failed system
From Occupied
From Occupied London
Mark. wrote: John Holloway:
Mark.
Why did I read the comments on that article? So much fail.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/NB18Dj02.html
Entdinglichung wrote: Opinion
Entdinglichung
The latest polls show support for New Democracy down to 24 percent, or 19 percent according to one poll, so no chance of them being able to form a government on their own after an election.
Summary of the latest
Summary of the latest measures approved in Greece (ESE)
University pulls plug on Indymedia Athens (Occupied London)
http://en.contrainfo.espiv.ne
http://en.contrainfo.espiv.net/2012/02/19/greece-spread-the-revolt-february-12th/
The Occupied Chania statement
The Occupied Chania statement from Mark above looks quite a positive statement and a positive development in the struggle.
One of the conditions of the IMF, EU, ECB l"loan" conditions is that the military is not cut and this presumably applies to all the forces of repression.
This is worth listening
This is worth listening to
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bwm1h
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b01bwm1h
Financial peeps talking about the preparation of an economic 'firewall' intended to shield other countries (Portugal/Spain/Italy) from exposure to a potential Greek exit from the Eurozone. Sounds pretty desperate.
This is a couple of months
This is a couple of months old so apologies if its been linked to already but I found this article from New Left Review pretty interesting:
http://www.zcommunications.org/the-greek-cauldron-by-stathis-kouvelakis
Article from France 24 -
Article from France 24 - nothing very new, apart from the mainstream media coverage.
In Athens, an anarchist tradition alive and well
Protests at cuts on eve of
Protests at cuts on eve of bailout decision (Athens News)
Edit: Dimitris on the urban75 thread
From the Athens News Deeper
[youtube]w2iYORFXfSk[/youtube]
[youtube]KwY89ZuQWdc[/youtube]
From the Athens News
Deeper PSI haircut under tight troika oversight
Government begins austerity blitz
Unions plan Wednesday protest
From Kathimerini
Papademos hails 'historic' deal for new loans, debt reduction
Also
Finland and Greece sign collateral deal
Finland and Greece, the security agreement was signed in secret
http://twitter.com/#!/teacherdude
Greek debt sustainability
Greek debt sustainability analysis (pdf)
which is discussed in this from the FT:
More on leaked Greek debt report
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Yanis Varoufakis interviews Robert Halver, chief economist with Baader Bank
(scroll down to find video)
http://www.leftcom.org/en/art
http://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2012-02-21/a-stalinist-welcome-to-a-nazi-intervention-into-a-workers-strike-in-greece
Entdinglichung - there's a
Entdinglichung - there's a response from a KKE member on the urban75 thread, here. Mind you he also says this about the KKE and Stalin:
Edited to add:
Response from PAME to criticism over the Golden Dawn visit to the steelworks occupation
(No subject)
[youtube]7WsmWEt0RK0[/youtube]
Govt rushes to pass bailout
Govt rushes to pass bailout laws amid protests (Athens News)
On the streets of Athens: 'If things get any worse, I won't be able to survive...' (Independent)
This is just fucked. Some
This is just fucked.
Some Greeks Might Have to Pay for Their Jobs
Quote: Salary cutbacks
from
from http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/national-sovereignty-and-the-sovereignty-of-the-people-video-from-the-kke/#comment-115065
Entdinglichung wrote: from
Entdinglichung
Oh my, oh my. These bolsheviks are big jokers, whatever country they're operating in. I have read the comments on the urban75 forum, and frankly, it's like my grandma's newspaper from the 70's Hungarian People's Republic.
The tragedy of these parties is that they are able to make people believe that being an activist/member would bring about communism. And what they get? Tanks, state terror, deteriorating material conditions, oppression. Hopefully these wankers will loose their charm before they could get in to power. In no way would be better, than the ND, the LAOS, or the PASOK.
Quote: Unions have announced
http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/53572
Quote: Scenes from the 48hour
[youtube]UEh0PJkyVeE[/youtube]
http://www.leftcom.org/en/art
http://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2012-02-23/update-more-manoeuvres-by-the-greek-stalinists
http://www.theatlanticwire.co
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/02/some-greeks-might-have-pay-their-jobs/49023/
Greeks having to pay for their jobs as well, saw this on rev left but it's unbelievable, absolutely out of this world.
Quote: Dear friends and
Taken from http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/5604
[youtube]TM9tfH6lJoQ[/youtube]
Video: documenting the crisis
Video: documenting the crisis - what next for Europe?
Quote: Nearly twelve hours
http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/1/53712
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http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/03/02/police-via-the-newspaper-to-vima-is-trying-to-accuse-the-open-peoples-assemply-of-holargos-papagou-for-a-bomb-found-in-athens-metro/
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http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/03/02/siemens-in-collaboration-with-the-police-and-an-attorney-general-attempts-to-break-the-strike-of-shipyward-workers-in-elefsina/
From Teacher Dude "Did you
From Teacher Dude
"Did you say anything against the president?" A little piece of North Korea comes to Greece
I have no clue how likely it
I have no clue how likely it is that 95% (or even 66%) of Greek bondholders will accept the deal that cuts the value of their bonds - doesn't seem like anyone knows. 95% doesn't look likely at all. This could unravel into an even larger crisis than 2008.
Greek default looms as voluntary debt deal looks set to fail
FT says that 75% of bondholders would be enough to prevent CACs and default: Greek bond swap deal rests on knife-edge
http://www.workersliberty.org
http://www.workersliberty.org/story/2012/03/14/greece-potatoes-and-stalinists
The auction for Greek
The auction for Greek sovereign CDS is set for this coming Monday 19th Mar. Although not likely to cause the global financial heart attack that the Lehman Brothers auction of 10th October 2008, it could still be an interesting one to keep a tab on. Sovereign CDS is a much smaller and shallower market than corporate ones, plus some (not much) additional clearing house information has been put in place since 2009, together they should give some better predictive power over how much of the stuff is out there and what the likely payout % will be (currently estimated at 77%). But if the results were to vary from expectations for what is effectively the longest-forseeen credit event in recent years, that would be an interesting indication that the Depository Trust & Clearing Corp still does not have the handle on the CDS market it claims.
FT: Greek bond protection payout to hit $2.5bn, Mar 15
Thanks to Entdinglichung for
Thanks to Entdinglichung for the extract exposing the KKE's governmental aspirations in it's response to the so-called 'potatoe movement' though note that 'Workers Liberty' a neo-trotskyist grouping is only putting forward it's own 'loyal oppositionist' state planning programme in it's competition with the stalinist KKE.
http://www.occupiedlondon.org
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2012/03/21/little-stories-from-imf-run-greece-81-year-old-woman-sets-herself-alight-man-drowns-in-the-port-of-piraeus-after-driving-his-car-into-the-sea-70-year-old-man-storms-tax-office-with-a-shotgun/
Anyone know what the general
Anyone know what the general atmosphere is down there? I was thinking about traveling there to participate but I'd like to know if something is still going on down there.
Do you watch the
Do you watch the news?
Anyway, elections just happened, looks like:
Big Winners: SYRIZA, Golden Dawn (explosion in support for both)
Big Losers: PASOK (usually 1 of the 2 main parties, plummeted to third)
Little bit of both: New Democracy (came in first but with far less percentage than usual), KKE (still hovering in the 6-8% area)
Golden Dawn will be entering Parliament for the first time...and SYRIZA now has more seats than PASOK.
the vote in detail:
the vote in detail: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2012/may/06/greece-elections-results-map