Online archive of over 100 issues of this weekly suffragette and later left-wing communist newspaper founded by Sylvia Pankhurst, first appearing as the Woman's Dreadnought in March 1914 and then as the Workers' Dreadnought in July 1917.
Among other major historical events, the Dreadnought captured the outbreak of revolution in Russia and briefly supported the Bolsheviks/Russian Communist Party before the anti-working-class nature of the latter became more apparent to Pankhurst. Over time, the paper then took a more critical stance towards Lenin and the so-called "workers' state" in Russia, as evidenced by Pankhurst's open letter to Lenin published in November 1922.
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Quit scabbing Fozzie; I'm on…
Quit scabbing Fozzie; I'm on strike until Steve retracts what he said about me being a "colonialist chauvinist" (i.e. for opposing Native American nationalism—which shouldn't be a controversial position among anarchists and other socialists) who is also supposedly spreading "Russian propaganda" by opposing Ukraine's ambitions to recapture Russophilic regions like Crimea (just like I oppose the military endeavors of Russia and all other capitalist states).
Hello Adri. Maybe explain in…
Hello Adri. Maybe explain in clear terms what I have done that you think is bad?
Hello Adri. Maybe explain in…
Lessening the effectiveness of our strike by scabbing! Once we win the retraction, and maybe also an actual wage of sorts (along with arrears), then we will go back to adding stuff to the archive. Until then, show some solidarity!
Once we win the retraction …
As a gesture of good faith, I've restored all of my submissions back to their original revisions. I will also refrain from posting a satirical list of demands from the fictional Libcom Workers' Union (a rank-and-file union of libcom contributors), in addition to a photo of the libcom penguin sitting on top of King Charles II's throne ordering libcom's volunteer-peasants to return to work. I do this in a spirit of reconciliation and out of a desire to end this strike amicably.
I can also resist anything…
I can also resist anything but temptation...
Thanks for the week-long…
Thanks for the week-long show of solidarity at least, but it seems that Steve is ignoring the LWU's legitimate grievances—not because he's clever or has read any Pope,[1] but because the libcomonarch is a bit of an ignorant snob. If you're wondering why I hadn't finished this already, it's partly because there are around 308 issues of the Workers' Dreadnought, not including the Woman's Dreadnought, and I wasn't sure if the site could handle all of that. When I was originally working on this, there also weren't any downloadable issues from the LSE like there are now; they only had images of each issue that one had to individually download and compile into a pdf.
1. 'Tis best sometimes your censure to restrain, / And charitably let the dull be vain: / Your silence there is better than your spite, / For who can rail so long as they can write?
westartfromhere wrote: Very…
Just so everyone knows, the…
Just so everyone knows, the LWU's strike against Steve is more or less over, so an admin can remove all the above comments if they want; they don't really have much to do with the Dreadnought.
Can we put that to a vote?…
Should not the introduction to these journals above distinguish between proletarian revolution (strikes, demonstrations, desertion, mutiny, sabotage, free association...) and the seizure of political power under the guise of social-democracy? To ignore this distinction is akin to conflating the spontaneous uprisings of the working class with the bourgeois Peace Treaties that conclude these battles between the classes. Is it fair to apply Lenin's derogatory term, "Left-Wing" Communist, at all? The newspaper proclaimed itself for "International Socialism". Let's take it at its words.
We suggest the following:
Weekly suffragette and later newspaper of "International Socialism" founded by Sylvia Pankhurst, first appearing as the Woman's Dreadnought in March 1914 and then as the Workers' Dreadnought in July 1917. Amongst other major historical events covered, the Dreadnought captured and supported the seizure of state power by the majority ("bolshevik") faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (renamed by itself as the All-Russian Communist Party after the seizure of power) before the anti-working-class nature of the regime became apparent to some observers. Over time, the paper then took a limited critical stance towards Lenin and the so-called "workers' state" in Russia, as evidenced by the open letters of Herman Gorter and Sylvia Pankhurst to Lenin published in 1921 and 1922, respectively.
Stop editing the page…
Stop editing the page westartfromhere... Nobody knows what you're talking about. I mean really, can we not get some admin attention here??
What's not to understand?…
What's not to understand?
Weekly suffragette and later newspaper of "International Socialism" founded by Sylvia Pankhurst, first appearing as the Woman's Dreadnought in March 1914 and then as the Workers' Dreadnought in July 1917. Amongst other major historical events covered, the Dreadnought captured and supported the seizure of state power by the majority ("bolshevik") faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (renamed by itself as the All-Russian Communist Party after the seizure of power) before the anti-working-class nature of the regime became apparent to some observers. Over time, the paper then took a limited critical stance towards Lenin and the so-called "workers' state" in Russia, as evidenced by the open letters of Herman Gorter and Sylvia Pankhurst to Lenin published in 1921 and 1922, respectively.
Well first you've littered…
Well first you've littered this site with your strange and offensive posts (e.g. calling the people who did the redesign for this site bourgeois essentially) and are now going around editing other people's articles without conferring with them. And second your reason for editing the above intro, after I've repeatedly told you not to, makes absolutely no sense. The term "left-wing communist" is an entirely appropriate choice of words to describe Pankhurst, seeing as how she favored worker councils (similar to other left-wing/council communists of the time) and opposed the party rule of the so-called "workers' state" in Russia.
The question posed was, What…
The question posed was, What is not understandable about the draft of the introduction below?
Weekly suffragette and later newspaper of "International Socialism" founded by Sylvia Pankhurst, first appearing as the Woman's Dreadnought in March 1914 and then as the Workers' Dreadnought in July 1917. Amongst other major historical events covered, the Dreadnought captured and supported the seizure of state power by the majority ("bolshevik") faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (renamed by itself as the All-Russian Communist Party after the seizure of power) before the anti-working-class nature of the regime became apparent to some observers. Over time, the paper then took a limited critical stance towards Lenin and the so-called "workers' state" in Russia, as evidenced by the open letters of Herman Gorter and Sylvia Pankhurst to Lenin published in 1921 and 1922, respectively.
Why would I change "left…
Why would I change "left-wing communist" to "newspaper of International Socialism"? You make absolutely no sense.
adri wrote: Why would I…
You wouldn't. Others may, however, prefer to use the journal's own self-description, rather than its detractor's — Lenin's — description of ' "Left-wing" Communism'.
Perhaps you would like to answer why you wish to omit a reference to Herman Gorter's open letter to Lenin that predated Pankhurst's? Again, why you wish to omit mention of the seizure of state power by 'the majority ("bolshevik") faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party'?
And, once again, what in the following paragraph makes absolutely no sense to you?
Weekly suffragette and later newspaper of "International Socialism" founded by Sylvia Pankhurst, first appearing as the Woman's Dreadnought in March 1914 and then as the Workers' Dreadnought in July 1917. Amongst other major historical events covered, the Dreadnought captured and supported the seizure of state power by the majority ("bolshevik") faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (renamed by itself as the All-Russian Communist Party after the seizure of power) before the anti-working-class nature of the regime became apparent to some observers. Over time, the paper then took a limited critical stance towards Lenin and the so-called "workers' state" in Russia, as evidenced by the open letters of Herman Gorter and Sylvia Pankhurst to Lenin published in 1921 and 1922, respectively.
westartfromhere wrote: You…
There's nothing inherently disparaging about the term "left-wing/left" communist. In fact Pankhurst approvingly used the term herself and reprinted tons of writings by various groups and people who employed the label (e.g. Herman Gorter, the Group of Revolutionary Left-Wing Communists of Russia, German left-communists, and others):
westartfromhere wrote:…
I'm not "omitting" anything; there's just no point in mentioning Gorter's open letter when Pankhurst's open letter sufficiently illustrates the point I was making. Why on earth would I also write the more verbose "the majority ('bolshevik') faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (renamed by itself as the All-Russian Communist Party after the seizure of power)" instead of just the "Bolsheviks/Russian Communist Party"??
I am also in the faction…
I am also in the faction which feels it's better if introductions can be brief and to the point.
Yes agreed with Fozzie. The…
Yes agreed with Fozzie. The introduction is fine. Lots of people use the term left communist or left wing communist to refer to themselves. Adding obscure nitpicking to introductions just makes them unintelligible even to people who might use this site regularly, let alone people just trying to learn about Pankhurst without a lot of backgroun.
If all here are happy to…
If all here are happy to exclude mention of "the seizure of state power by the majority ("bolshevik") faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party"—and Dreadnought's reaction—in the intro, leave it so.
There were so many different political parties in the period subsequent to that seizure of power but by the time that reaction had finished its bloody work there remained only one, the All-Russian Communist Party.
'In February 1922, the…
'In February 1922, the Dreadnought group established the Communist Workers' Party'. (Wikipedia.)
The last scan above is from 11 March 1922. The scanned material from it gives no hint of a new party.
The paper went on until June 1924 (Wikipedia).
The above scans exclude this explicitly left-communist period of the paper.
Work on this archive is…
Work on this archive is ongoing, with a new issue being added virtually every day. Today's was March 1921. If someone wants to start adding more of the 1922 issues, then so much the better.
'In February 1922, the…
The paper does extend to June 1924, but it will take a while to upload all of the approximately 308 issues. The reason the numbers jump around a bit is also because I was prioritizing certain content, such as the issues that contain Pankhurst's series of articles collectively entitled "Communism and Its Tactics." There is also reference to the Communist Workers' Party in various issues, which was the party Pankhurst set up after being expelled from the Soviet-aligned Communist Party of Great Britain in September 1921, essentially for criticizing the CPGB and refusing to hand over editorial control of the Dreadnought. Pankhurst, for example, listed the objectives and methods of the British CWP in the Vol. 8 No. 48 (11 February 1922) issue of the Dreadnought. See here:
(It's also worth pointing out that the Fourth International referred to in the article is the KAPD one, not the Trotskyist one, which didn't even exist yet.)
Fozzie wrote: If someone…
I can start chipping in again, and it's definitely worth creating separate articles for stuff like the British Communist Workers' Party.
adri wrote: Fozzie wrote:…
That would be great if you have the time/inclination adri - I am not precious about doing it at all :-) [edit, at least I don't think I am - it will be fun to find out...]
That would be great if you…
Yeah, right. I saw you eyeballing my Voice of Industry. You better stop taking over other people's archives, if you know what's good for you. (Kidding!—I don't actually care either; anyone can contribute to anything, though it would be nice if people coordinated with one another.)
Heh :-)
Heh :-)
Fozzie wrote: I am not…
Fozzie when I fail to use the PDF tag in my Dreadnought submissions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-8CSa9xj8
So why are the outline…
So why are the outline weights on some of the issues different? Shouldn't they all be 0 so that the issues get organized according to their title names? I submitted Vol. 8 No. 48, but it seems to appear in the middle of the issues list instead of at the end, which I'm guessing is because of the different outline weights. Should we go through and set them all to 0?
Thanks for doing that. I’ve…
Thanks for doing that. I’ve been using the weight 2. Can’t remember why, but it must be because I had the same issue and it fixed it.
Another thing would be to use the same weight number as the Volume of the edition maybe.
Can’t remember why, but it…
It could have possibly been because there were no leading 0's in some of the titles (e.g. "No. 1" instead of "No. 01"). I added the leading 0's, so it might be worth setting all the weights to 0 to see if that fixes it.
Yes that is probably it adri…
Yes that is probably it adri. There are about 150 issues in the archive now, so I'd say changing the weighting on them all individually might be a too much aggro. And it all makes sense as it is. If it's something you feel strongly about please go for it though!
I'll do it later. It's…
I'll do it later. It's definitely easier to just add leading 0's to the titles and have it automatically sort, at least for the remaining issues.
Not necessarily very legible…
Not necessarily very legible issues of Workers Dreadnought (all?) up to 1924 (mis-labeled as Woman's Dreadnought after the name had changed), here:
https://archive.org/details/pub_workers-dreadnought
And here, though you have to sign up for it (and eventually pay for?), which I did not do:
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/titles/womans-dreadnought
Thanks ZJW, that is good to…
Thanks ZJW, that is good to know!