Labour Transformed-deeply disturbing

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Aug 5 2020 16:12

So it seems that a few people at least can learn, with a bit of help and encouragement, from their experiences as members of the Labour Party under the failed Corbyn project. A step at least in the right direction.

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Aug 6 2020 07:16
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One of the main people behind this is apparently ex-Plan C, so that's propably where the misappropriated Solidarity reference comes from.

He's now leaving Labour Party too.

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Jan 19 2021 21:21

For anyone who's avidly following the Labour Transformed saga, they've now agreed on a "political basis". I've not gone through it in too much detail, but the two main things I picked up are 1) they really like saying "in and against" a lot, and 2) they're now very keen on stressing the importance of "anti-imperialism". Maybe I'm just too kneejerk cynical, but I can't help suspecting that translates to something like "we think the Labour left doesn't spend enough time getting in arguments about Israel and Palestine, we reckon getting in more arguments about Israel and Palestine would be a productive way forward".

It does all feel very timewarpy, a lot of the time they sound like they're still at the peak of Corbynism, not a year or so after that bubble very definitely burst.

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Jan 20 2021 10:59
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I swear April Fool's Day comes earlier every year: https://blackroselabour.uk/about/

Nothing posted on their site since 16th August 2020. Kaput?

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Jan 20 2021 11:28

It seems like there is still new stuff getting published on their site, it just doesn't show up in the articles listing for some reason, but you can find it if you scroll down far enough on their homepage. This is from last week, so it seems like there's still someone out there keeping the flame of anarcho-Starmerism burning.

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Feb 4 2021 11:49

I've posted a link at #211 on the tail end of the ''Post Trump North American Left Trends' thread which relates to some looking to extricate themselves from the failed Corbynista Labour Party (rather than stick with it) and compares with the disarray in the USA's DSA. Also has cross references to the ''base-building'' strategy mentioned elsewhere on this site.

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Feb 4 2021 17:37

I thought that Black Rose shit had died a death. When it came about several people I know tried to get me to join - they seriously thought they were on to something, anarchism had found its way into the mainstream! However, when I offered my critique and declared myself absolutely uninterested in having anything to do with this preposterous nonsense, I received exactly the same response as i always get when disagreeing with liberals, namely, accusations of privilege, empty posturing etc and shaming for not doing the right thing by all marginalised groups for the sake of non existent virtues, but this time with one addition - by rejecting Black Rose I had exposed to the world that I was no kind of socialist, least of all an anarchist!
Strange times that we live in...

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Feb 24 2021 12:16

Even the old UK Solidarity group for all it's faults would be squirming over that lot.

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May 7 2021 21:58

Huh

https://pasttenseblog.wordpress.com/2021/05/06/a-long-lost-communique-fr...

anyone remember these?

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May 8 2021 09:41

I feel like I'd seen the name somewhere before but can't remember where.

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May 8 2021 09:44

I wonder how Labour Transformed are getting on with transforming Labour?

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May 8 2021 09:56

Well Labour has certainly transformed itself from being mild social democracy with a socialist veneer into... a mess?

I am not up to the cut and thrust of parliamentary politics myself, but that IS a radical transformation which could be helpful to people promoting a radical extra-parliamentary movements.

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May 8 2021 10:06
Fozzie wrote:
Well Labour has certainly transformed itself from being mild social democracy with a socialist veneer into... a mess?

I am not up to the cut and thrust of parliamentary politics myself, but that IS a radical transformation which could be helpful to people promoting a radical extra-parliamentary movements.

Labour always was a mess, now it’s a mess more publicly. This can only be good news for us as the eyes with recently fallen scales look for other ways to affect change. Unfortunately, the cynic in me can’t help but think that by the time the next general election comes around, the same old ‘must get rid of the Tories, lesser of two evils, blah blah fucking blah’ narrative will drive legions to once more debase themselves at the bloodied alter that is the ballot box.

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May 13 2021 19:08

A year and a half in and they still don’t know who they are:

We’re often asked "What is labour transformed?" So far we've deferred on answering, because we know we haven't yet done the work necessary to offer a definitive answer. We hope to change that through our strategy research project, starting Monday 17th May, at 6pm. DM for details.

https://twitter.com/labtransformed/status/1392896258998771712?s=21