I want to post some news (and summary translations of news) related to Rojava here. I (and some others) used to do it under "ISIS news" but I guess it is better to separate these two topics and please let's not discuss stuff here but share news related to Rojava so we have a better "informed" discussion in other threads.
Another child is killed by
Another child is killed by Turkish state in a demo for solidarity with Kobane
By the way there is also
By the way there is also this, but I am not sure who are the detained, it seems no follow up story appeared till now.
EDIT: Well maybe this news is related to one below. As Turkish state is very keen on stopping any kind of support to Rojava.
Recently the representatives
Recently the representatives of two of the biggest trade unions in Europe, from RMT and ETF, have paid a visit to Suruç...The delegation of the European trade unions, accompanied by the representatives from the trade unions in Turkey, held a joint press conference at the village.
Same story from EFT website:
This news says the new
This news says the new government for Rojava is elected. It has 12 members from Barzani side (Syrian National Kurdish Council- SNKC) and 12 from TEV-DEM (including PYD) and 6 independent. According to news 2 of the independents are selected by random and other 4 are by voting. Now SNKC says they will get involved with autonomous self-rule as well. Also women protested against the election outside of the election building against the lack of gender equality in new government.
HDP Co-President Selahattin Demirtaş continued, saying it was necessary to make this a lasting political victory by ensuring that the Yazidi (Êzîdî) people establish their own administration. He added that Sinjar was part of Iraqi territory and that including it as part of Kurdistan would entail risks, but that leaving it at the mercy of Baghdad was also risky. He therefore called on Kurdish parties to support the setting up of an autonomous administration in Sinjar, rather than endeavouring to establish their own dominance there.
Apparently Graeber was also
Apparently Graeber was also among the academicians who visited Cizre Kanton. Below is an interview in Turkish with him (part 1), I think we can expect another piece from him in some later time.
He is very optimistic and says "I am sure anyone, who still thinks that all that is happening (in Rojava) is not revolution but just a decoration of a shopping window, will totally change his/her views if he/she visited the place."
"Rojava’da yaşananın gerçekten devrim olduğuna dair içinde kuşku bulunan ya da her şeyin sadece bir vitrin düzenlemesi olduğunu düşünen birinin gidip görmesinin tüm bu fikirleri ilelebet unutturacağını söyleyebilirim"
EDIT: it is also in english now: https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/no-this-is-a-genuine-revolution/
Thanks for the updates!
Thanks for the updates!
Some quick news I saw
Some quick news I saw today:
1)firatnews.com (news source of kurdish movement) is now unblocked in Turkey. This is kind of interesting. It is related to ongoing peace process between Turkish state and PKK. However most of the stuff is on the site can still be considered to be ilegal in anti-terrorism law (I suppose). It is kind of paradoxical. (The site is a great source for news on Rojava as well).
2) Apparently IS had drones in their disposal.
3)I had quoted Demirtas in one of the above news. he is influential in legal kurdish party. I also now see two announcements on the same issue (and in consensus with Demirtas)
Karayilan is now kind of the second man of PKK armed forces. He basically says Sengal must be land of Yazidi (Êzîdî) people. He mildly criticizes Barzani.
Kalkan again is hugely influential figure in politics of PKK. He also says Sengal msut be a Canton. But a Canton of Yazidi (Êzîdî) people. He criticizes dishonesty of Turkish government and says I do not trust them as much now. Makes a call for uniting all socialist parties in turkey.
4) Breaking news Peshmerga is going out of Sengal
5) This is a bit interesting. I wish to know where this will lead to:
This piece is written by another influential kurdish reporter (I do not know who he is but he makes important analysis in firatnews from time to time, giving info on how PKK see things)
Writer criticizes Peshmerga for its non-cooperation with YPG. Gives examples of events. He says even afterDUHOK agreement Peshmerga is not contributing to fight against IS much. He says although Barzani says he wants kurdish unity, he privlidges his own victory and political gain. In last sentence he even says if this attitude continues it can cause "clashes". These are very hard words. Well at least for PKK it appears that cooperation with Barzani is not going super well.
Hi some quick translation of this article:
Barzani in his speech only mentioned Peshmerga in his speech about Sincar. Also PKK only saluted forces that are in association with them, in liberation (process) of Sincar. It appears that they are not in very friendly terms. There is a battle of information and status between them now.
The actors in the region are:
HPG and YJA star these are military wing of PKK
YPG and YPJ Rojova defence forces
YBJ and YJA star these are newly formed (5 August) Ezidi self-defense forces.
There is Syrian Peshmerga (these are not of Iraq kurdish origin but politically aligned with them)
Peshmerga (connected to Iraq regional government, Barzani and KDP )
The writer could make a phone call to Sincar. It appears that 25-30 percent of the city is liberated, however as IS has established secure positions and traps (etc...) it will take time to move forward. As Peshmerga is not familiar with guerrilla warfare, peshmerga is more at the backside securing the places that were already liberated. On the other hand YPG and HPG are fighting in 10 percent of city in the front line to take control of more of the city. So there is practical military cooperation in the battlefield
By the way the corridor to Sengal is opened (I do not know what this geographically means though) by YPG by eliminating IS in 9 arab villages. (So now I guess they can get supplies from Iraq regional government)
YPG and YBJ together secured the holy land/city of Ezidis.
There is already a certain disapproval of Barzani in Sincar as Peshmerga escape from the area in the first place without fighting with IS. However traditional alliences are in no way eliminated, as apparently 40 percent of the Sunni muslim kurds of Sincar city (Ezidis are minority in Sincan) still support Barzani.
A small comment by me: I do not know how Sincar will be after the war but if it becomes a Canton this would practically mean emergence of Bookchinian ideas in Iraq. This would be a huge boost for political power and influence of PKK and democratic confederalism in region. On the other hand it would also practically mean PKK would be taking land from Barzani which would make tensions between these two get higher and higher.
"Buy 1 formula, 1 milk, 1
"Buy 1 formula, 1 milk, 1 bottle more, while buying for your own children"
This is a campaign for Kobane. Apparently baby and kid supplies are desperatly needed in Kobane. They are aiming to open child food kitchens in every neighborhood. I m putting it here,in case people want to do something about it.
Well practically not directly
Well practically not directly Rojava news but anyway:
Yesterday apparently more than 170 students were arrested, most of whom were Kurds, protesting against massacre of Roboski and defending themselves against racists. (Roboski Massacre is bombing of about 30 people, most of whom were kids, by Turkish air force, due to being mistaken for "terrorists" near the village Roboski. This happened 3 years ago and nobody is punished)
As border issues become another hot topic (Roboski, Rojava...)
Hi some quick
Hi some quick updates:
Clashes in Sinjar town in South Kurdistan are reported to have got heavier as of this morning.
One Syrian refugee died out of cold in Turkey
Apparently, there is "Democratic and Free Ezidi Movement" (Demokratik ve Özgür Êzidî Hareketi- TEVDA) in Sinjar now. And it is forming a self-defence militia force of Ezidi people for a new Sinjar. (Please use google translate to have a glimpse of the short interview)
There was a lot of news like
There was a lot of news like these in news sources: In Sinjar and Kobane IS again started to make a lot of suicide attacks.
I saw this: "INSIDE KOBANE"
I saw this:
"INSIDE KOBANE" is a documentary film we produced for BBC. It gives a glimps of the way Kurdish journalist gather news under constant shelling and snipers. Along the way they introduce us to women and men who defend the city aganist ISIS. The broadcast starts on BBC World TV on January 2nd - Jan. 4th. Here are the time slots, All is GMT, London time: First broadcast is : 23:30 GMT /Fri 2 Jan
Camera and Director: Zanyar Omrani
BBC Edit-Pcroducer: Jiyar Gol
Please share it and send your feedabck to BBC
I am watching this now: BBC
I am watching this now:
BBC Our World - ROJAVA : SYRIA'S SECRET REVOLUTION
Well, time for some news
Well, time for some news folks:
Apparently Kobane is nearly 90 percent liberated. Isis is partly on the run. YPG: "we will clear IS in a few days."
YPG and Yezidi self-defence forces seems to prevail also in sinjar
This is a bit interesting. A turkish soldier did not let some people pass the Turkish border. These people are claimed to be IS militants. however later he was captured by IS. And it appears this was known by Turkish military. It is strange. Then he was held captive for few days now. he is taken by back Turkish secret service, without provoking any hostility between Is and Turkey. I think this sounds really fishy to me and tell a bit about turkey IS relations.
KCK co-leader interview in Turkish where he criticizes, USA, Turkish government, etc... (try to use google translate)
There is a forum on Reddit
There is a forum on Reddit dedicated to Rojava: https://www.reddit.com/r/rojava/
This is a good place to get Rojava news and analysis in English, or to post up articles that you want to share.
Making a Reddit account is easy, you don't even need to give an email address.
any comments on
any comments on this?
Demonstration in the city of Amouda 27.12.2014, demanding the liberation of the kidnapped girl Hemrin ‘Aidi and against PYD. The PYD kidnapped the girl of 15 years old to serve in the militias of the PYD and carry weapons in their ranks against her will.
Well she is propably taken
Well she is propably taken based on the necesarry military service law that says at least a member of each family has to enlist in army. Let's hope resistance to this law continues to make it abolished ASAP (especially considering she is so young) as far as I know kurdish movement years ago also declared nesessary draft in Turkey. However it collapsed, and they need to abandon it. I hope this time will be also be the same. (especially after war conditions)
Other than, no other
Other than, no other information available?
If you blow up the photographs you'll see that there's a squad of blokes in the background (particularly of the first photograph) wearing red & white shamaghs (keffiyehs). Of course red & white kefiiyehs are common amongst Syrian Arabs, but apparently in Kurdish communities the shamagh designates tribal affiliation. I have seen reference to the the red & white shamagh as associated with the Barzani clan.
Even if this was a KDP-sponsored protest, that doesn't speak to whether or not the girl has actually been pressed into service against her will or not (as opposed to the will of her family/clan).
after some digging I've found
after some digging I've found this:
Amuda, Syria – On Tuesday, an underage Kurdish girl was abducted in front of her house in the city of Amuda in Hasakah province, in northeastern Syria, and her family accused gunmen of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) of being behind the incident.
Marwan Idi, brother of the 15-year-old girl, Hamrin Idi, said that he has searched all of the military centers of the PYD-linked Auto-Administration in the city, and stated that they assured him that the girl was not being held by them, but that they would help find her.
On Wednesday morning, a protest was organized by members of the Kurdish Yeketi Party to support the victim’s family in the city of Amuda.
“We took to the street to show solidarity with the victim and to condemn the practices of the PYD’s armed groups, such as the kidnapping minors,” Ibrahim Asaad, a Yeketi member, told ARA News.
Marwan Idi, the victim’s brother, stated to ARA News that the abduction of his sister Hamrin in front of her house “is a crime and the perpetrators must be prosecuted, whoever they are”.
“Did the perpetrates forget that the girl was a minor and should serve her disabled mother?” he wondered.
“I will raise banners that reflect my anger and my hatred to those criminals, and the authorities of the Auto-Administration must bear their responsibility in this regard,” Idi said.
“This is not the first time my family has been exposed to such practices,” he added.
* PYD-run police, known as
* PYD-run police, known as the Asayish
[quote=Under Kurdish Rule - Abuses in PYD-run Enclaves of Syria - June 19, 2014 VII. Children in Security Forces]Since assuming power in 2012, the Asayish* and YPG have both used boys and girls under age 18 at checkpoints and on bases in `Afrin, Ain al-`Arab and Jazira. Some children have fought with the YPG. The Asayish* serves as a police force, but its members are armed with automatic weapons and its checkpoints have been the target of car bombings and other attacks.
The use of children by the Asayish* and YPG directly violates the internal regulations of both forces (see Appendices II and III), which forbid membership of anyone under age 18. International law prohibits the use of children as participants in direct hostilities, which includes using children as scouts, couriers, or at checkpoints.
The Asayish* and YPG say they have made efforts over the past year to reduce their use of children for military purposes but the problem persists in both forces. During a visit to Jazira in February 2014, Human Rights Watch saw two armed Asayish members who said they were under 18, and two others who looked under 18, but, after pressure from their commanders, refused to give their ages. Human Rights Watch also interviewed a 16-year-old boy who said he had been in the YPG since the previous year. Two other people said that children in their families had recently joined the YPG – one of them a 13-year-old boy whom the YPG sent home after the family complained.
Human Rights Watch did not visit `Afrin or Ain al-`Arab and could not confirm whether children are still in the security forces there...[/quote]
[quote=The Democratic Self-Rule Administration’s Response to the Report of Human Rights Watch Organization]Recruitment of Children:
* The recruitment of children under 18 and their participation in military operations in the Asayish and in the Peoples protection units (YPG) must stop, this includes being active in checkpoints and bases.
* All military training of children must stop.
* The People protection units (YPG) and the Asayish must provide public updates on the number of children who have been demobilized of forces and about their whereabouts.
* Officers who allow children to serve under their leadership must be disciplined.
* The recruitment of children in youth centers or cultural centers must be prohibited.
* There must be cooperation with international bodies for Rehabilitation of children and necessary support to socially integrate them back into society must be provided.
Although, the leadership of the peoples protection units which are charged with the task of protection and defense in the self-managed areas, confirmed the existence of some of these cases, and made clear on the 5th of June that they would cooperate in the mutual task of making sure to demobilize all children under 18 from fighting units within one month forces within one month according to the agreement signed with the organization Geneva Call.
We would like for the sake of explanation only, not to justify any wrongdoings to again point to severe circumstances which we are ongoing to underline that some problems are hard to deal with but we are fully committed to resolving them in order to create a stable society[/quote]
augustynww wrote: after some
OK, a straight-forward kidnapping seems more likely. The slightly implausible part about the first piece was that the girl had been kidnapped to serve in the militia, especially in an arms-carrying, active service role. The implausible bit is that the girl could be held incommunicado once assigned to a unit with other women, in an age of mobile phones, etc. That she might have been kidnapped for another purpose - e.g. forced marriage via bride kidnapping or similar - seems more plausible that she was being held incommunicado, such that should couldn't get a message back to her family as to where she was so they could come and rescue her.
But really there's a whole host of possibilities. Impossible to say much else without specific info really.
edit: incidentally, on the topic of forced marriage, here's a brief but interesting piece on the matter in Pahstun society. Obviously Pashtun society is different from Kurdish in many ways, but there is some cross-over. NB also the difference in dowry practices between the Kurd & Pashtun practice of the groom's family paying the bride's family a bride-price, as opposed to the Pakistani, Indian practice of the bride's family paying a dowry (jahez) to the groom's family.
Useful backgrounder on the
Useful backgrounder on the clashes in Cizre on 27 December just gone. Technically Cizre is the Turkish side of the border, but it relates to political context in Cizre canton.
AM: Turkey's AKP pits Kurd against Kurd
Hi again some updates on
Hi again some updates on Rojava here
Cizre the struggle between local population against the state continues.
YPG is also fighting against Syrian regime nowadays.
According to sources close to
According to sources close to kurdish movement Ezidi people ogranize their self government similar to rojava. Also barzani govrrnment strongşy oppose such developments (they made such a declaration a few days ago)
YPG/YPJ retake Mishtenur
YPG/YPJ retake Mishtenur hill
BBC: Kobane: Kurdish fighters 'capture strategic hilltop'
Well, apparently YPG now has
Well, apparently YPG now has total military control over Kobane.
http://en.firatnews.com/news/news/preparations-for-international-brigade-in-rojava.htm ... seems to be initiated by the MLKP
Some more new
Some more new stuff
A new speech by Dilar Dirik in which she adresses a lot of issues that were also debated in libcom forums.
This rebuilding process is not just limited to kurdish movement by the way. There were meetings in some major cities in Turkey about ecological and communal living and what sort of urban or rural rebuilding politics should be aimed in Rojava. Moreover some of these activists actually went to Kobane to realize their projects. It is very likely we will see some developments related to it in the future.
That is bad. Apparently
That is bad. Apparently Newroz celebrations in Rojava is attacked by two suicide bombers killing 17 civilians, injuring about 80 civilians today
Some more news: Zeki Yılmaz
Some more news:
Zeki Yılmaz and Su Ender, of the International of Anarchist Federations, are currently in Kobanê, where they came to acquaint the world with the revolution ongoing in Rojava by making a documentary. LINK
Women in Efrîn canton form 51 communes LINK
There is recently a constant Turkish military activity pushing kurdish forces to fight, that contradicts the current peace process. Last week 4 soldiers were wounded and 1 guerilla (along with one civilian from HDP trying to stop the shooting) is killed. The elections in Turkey will be held in 7th of June. It is argued that this advance of Turkish military can be to force kurds to fight back, but causing them lose Turkish votes and apathy in larger Turkish society. Moreover if the fights between kurds and turks escalate again then it will definitely effect the future of Rojava.
In Sınjar Kurds continue to advance liberating some villages in a regular basis.
"HPG Sinjar and YBŞ [I think the first one is PKK and other is Ezidi force - kurrem] have issued a joint statement regarding the ongoing operations to liberate Sinjar, reporting that 3 ISIS gang members were killed in the clashes of the last 2 days."
Bakur is a documentary that is made in PKK camps in Turkey. That is not yet screened and is trying to be cencored by Turkish government. It looks to be a very imformative one on Kurdish movement.
Levant Front dissolved.
Levant Front dissolved. Apparently the Islamists quit the group.
We'll have to see if the YPG picks up the secularists involved around Aleppo.
Key Islamist group Shamiya Front resolves itself
More on the end of the Levant Front
Luey Hussein of the Restructuring Syria Movement in Damascus visits Cizîre Canton to investigate Democratic Autonomy.
Luey Hussein: Autonomous administration should be implemented in all Syria. Here is his Facebook confirming his visit to Rojava
Louay Hussein was among the opposition leaders in 2011.
It looks like he was arrested in November 2014 and since released in February 2015. He previously spent another 7 years in jail and "successfully organized the first opposition conference to be held in Damascus " in 2011. His group is neo-liberal and non-violent. He opposes U.S./western intervention. Its curious that he would visit Rojava right out of jail.
He wrote: Syrians do not feel they need a state just prior to his arrest in November 2014.
It's a question how neo-liberal he is. He used to be a member of the communist party. Joining the Communist Labor Party/Communist Action Party was the reason for his 1984 arrest and longest prison term.
After visiting Rojava, he may have fled into Turkey
Especially KDP related media
Especially KDP related media such as Rudaw and BasNews are aggressively trying to exploit Ezidi leaders in the current smoldering media war between the PKK and KDP over the political future of Shingal. In its recent broadcast, Rudaw compared the rule of the Kurdish YPG / PYD in north Syria (kurd. Rojava) with the north Korean dictatorship of Kim Jong-un. Its Turkish platform went the extra mile and published a cartoon portraying the PKK and YPG policy in Shingal as `the work of the devil´.
1) There is this news: It
1) There is this news:
It says 15 arab and kurdish groups joined forces against YPG to take the YPG controlled neighborhoods in Aleppo.. And the reason is said to be that they forced to open one women's veil and forced to use her house as a command center. It is a bit weird. What is weirder is that this is not in Aljazeera English. But it circulated widely in Turkish media. Flint was recently sharing news about a cooperation of YPG and Arabs (well FSA I guess) in Aleppo. Well maybe this is the end of it. We should look it closer.
Another fresh news: http://aljazeera.com.tr/haber/halepte-ypgden-geri-adim
It says that YPG agreed to demands of the above mentioned group.
2)El-Nusra massacred about 100 (or less different numbers) Alevi civilians in the village "Istebak" in Syria.
3) ISIS on the other hand continue to make massacres based on ethnic and religious differences:
ISIS kills 300 Yezidi hostages
1)Kobane is now facing the threat of infection. There are a lot of dead bodies in the city. (It is also known ISIS makes booby traps with corpses so it is hard to collect them without specialists and equipment) (also the warming of the weather helps deceases )
2)There is no water in the city
3)None of the kids are vaccinated for 8 months now
4)All health systems is in very bad condition and insufficient.
There is a new Help Kobane campaign: whose email or SWIFT can be found in the link
Well this is in Turkish but this is the most recent report on the situation of civilians in Kobane:
Conscription is extended to
Conscription is extended to Efrin Canton. 6 months service for 18-30 year olds; on person per family, only children excluded, also exclusion if a sibling has already been killed fighting among the Rojavan forces.
Self-defense law implemented also in Efrîn
Kantona Cizîrê forces
Wikipedia: Jazira Canton
Sutoro is different than Sootoro
Kobane canton forces / Euphrates Volcano operations room / Burkan al-Furat
Wikipedia: Euphrates Volcano
Kobane YPG Twitter
servan derwish: Burkan Al-Furat YouTube
Northern Sun Battalion(YPG/Turkmen)
Another cement plant
Another cement plant (Güreş/Gorrish) seized in the south-east Kobane area, this one owned by a Turkish investor. I don't have any production details on it, but from the photographs it does not look insignificant.
Turkish cement factory taken by YPG and YPJ in Kobanî
Also, there has been a dramatic advance in Cizire canton where YPG and the Al-Sanadid (Shammar tribal army) seized Al-Guhrah and the entire Abd al-Aziz mountains including its peak. They have since been able to encircle Daesh into a few pockets along the Khabur river.
Map before seizing Abd al-Aziz
Long article in French about
Long article in French about the Christians in Rojava and the MFS in particular.
Les milices chrétiennes de Syrie en première ligne
Another article, this one in
Another article, this one in English, on the origins of the MFS and the long relationship with the PKK.
The Revolutionaries of Bethnahrin
Over the last few days
Over the last few days there's been announcements from various sources (Jabhat al Akrad, YPG) of an offensive to join up the Kobane and Cizire by a pincer push from both Cantons towards Tel Abyiad.
This is a pretty ambitious move as this would cut off the Daesh capital Raqqa's main feedline via the Urfa to Akcakale/Tel Abiad route. Daesh will still hold their other main Turkish supply gateway at Jarablus, but they can still be expected to resist losing northern Raqqa province and the Tel Abiad gateway pretty hard. We could also expect the Turkish state (and local interests in Urfa who are making a shit ton of money out of this war and associated smuggling trade) to do as much as possible in supporting that resistance.
Still and all, Ras Al Ain (Sere Kaniye) was taken last week and the capture of Mabrouka on the main road to Tel Abyiad was announced yesterday. The battle for Suluk (the next major town on the 712 road) could be harder fought, however.
This looks pretty significant
This looks pretty significant but is in note form and either the translation is weak or the original was quite technical so its a bit frustrating trying to extract the full meaning in parts
The Social Economy in Rojava
iii. How the social economy considers the core economic activities
1. Production: there is a private sector for production, but the most important form of production is the production through the communes and cooperatives.
2. Working: all workers must work in the communal projects.
3. Ownership: ownership is sacred.
4. Market: the market is a main part of social economy, but the use-value must be greater than the exchange-value, and there is no stock market.
5. Technology: is very important and depends on ecological activities and balance.
6. Industry: there is no industry if it not ecological. This is very important in our economic and social system.
7. Economic progress: we depend on balanced development theory between three cantons.
8. Trade: the main form of trade is the trade between commons. This form foregrounds and develops the importance of use-value.
9. Finance and funding: the banking system is not like capitalist system; it is only to save money and help the communes. The resource of financing is the output of the projects; there is non-centralism in the financing system, because this system depends on communes.
Jabhat al-Nusra (Al Qaeda in
Jabhat al-Nusra (Al Qaeda in Syria) & Ahrar al Sham are attacking YPG in the Sheikh Maqsoud neighborhood of Aleppo. Sheikh Maqsoud is a Kurdish majority neighborhood under YPG control. Because it had been relatively untouched by direct fighting in the war, many refugees moved there.
Jihadis (JaN, Ahrar) encircle Sheikh Maqsood neighborhood under YPG control.
The pretext is that Islamists are going to defend women and want to implement Sharia. The neighborhood of al- Sheikh Maqsoud witnesses tension after “the Operation Room of Labbayki Ya Oktah” threat of declaring the neighborhood as military zone
I had some Aleppo/Sheikh
I had some Aleppo/Sheikh Maqsoud/Şêxmeqsûd details in another thread, but I'll put them here.
Video on Sheikh Maqsoud and Aleppo
Video of everyday life in Sheikh Maqsoud
Here is what Aleppo looks like right now:
YPG control over not just Şêxmeqsûd but also the Ashrafiyah and Rusafah neighborhoods of Aleppo.
Middle Eastern Power Plays and the People's Spring Rojava
Some details on the Şêxmeqsûd neighborhood in northwest Aleppo under the control of the YPG, 02/2015:
Aleppo's displaced find refuge in Kurdish regions
Ethnically diverse disaster communism of the newly lumpen proletariat.
The Kurdish Factor
YPG Aleppo commander: Syrian regime failed to regain control over Kurdish neighborhoods, 02/10/2015
Here is an article from 2013 on YPG recruitment of Arab FSA fighters in Aleppo: Arabs join Kurdish militia in Aleppo 2/9/2013
Judicial Agreement in Aleppo between Levant Front and YPG , 2/5/2015. The Levant Front has since dissolved.
A recent (May 12, 2015) brotherhood march stressing multi-ethnic unity in Şêxmeqsûd
Peoples march for brotherhood in Şêxmeqsûd
Quote: YPG (People's Defense
YPG on guard against threats around Sheikh Maqsoud
Gang groups seeking provocation attack Sheikh Maqsoud
"Ahrar ash-Sham has put a
"Ahrar ash-Sham has put a blockade on Afrin and stopped all food trucks entering Afrin from Azaz,Aleppo "
There may have been a cease
There may have been a cease fire in Sheikh Maqsoud/Aleppo between YPG and Al Nursa.
Meanwhile in Cizire canton...
Member of YPG Military Council Sozdar Derik on Liberation of Mabruka, 5/28/2015
Any updates on the supposed
Any updates on the supposed agreement with the FSA not to fight one another?
Thought some of you guys
Thought some of you guys might have some interest in this. Combat footage, some is pretty disturbing including dead child bodies in newly liberated former Daesh territory the Kurds come across, with injuries indicating torture. Also a pretty nasty scene where an elderly Yazedi woman has clearly been killed by Daesh sniper fire.
The documentary overall is uplifting and briefly touches on the libertarian principles of the YPG and YPJ including the Israeli female volunteer and the American Jordan Matson.
Who down voted this? Is there a policy against posting videos?
Georgie89 wrote: Any updates
which one? FSA isn't all that coherent. YPG has good relations with some FSA groups and not others.
Flint wrote: Georgie89
I am not sure just keep seeing YPG members or affiliates on twitter mention it but a lot is translated so not very easily comprehended. I have been in touch with a few YPG members from the UK over the last few days who have been giving me some insight so I will ask them. I just don't want to keep spamming them for every question I have as they have more occupying concerns, obviously.
Who controls the oil and gas
Who controls the oil and gas in Syria?
Nursa issued a couple other
Nursa issued a couple other statements that they intend to continue against the YPG, but they've gotten attacked by Daesh elsewhere and haven't taken further action against Sheikh Maqsood.
Here is more detail map:
Is this a black swan kind of
Is this a black swan kind of event? Chobani yogurt tycoon donating $700+ million to refugees (focused on Kurdistan). Already donated $2 million to Kobane refugees.
By comparison, the LaFarge Cement plant cost $700 million to build.
Thousands of Arabs driven out by Kurds’ ethnic cleansing
I can not read it in full.
The same news also here: http://syriadirect.org/news/ypg-units-reportedly-burn-arab-villages/
however this report looks a bit suspicious as it appears to claim that YPG is totally anti-FSA and pro-government.
This is also abit strange according to this Sunni Arabs say kurds kill them because they share the same islamic sect as ISIS. However Kurds themselves salafi which is a very orthodox religious belief part of wider category of sunnism
On kurdish side:
Kurdish authorities say this is a lie, the villages were destroyed by ISIS's sucicide bomber, killing Kurdish militias also. Moreover they claim they managed to help about 30 people escape from ISIS.
In English I found these: http://ypgrojava.com/en/index.php/statements/680-statement-of-the-general-command-of-the-people-s-defense-units-may-30
We will see the truth hopefully in not distant future.
Flint's comment on
Flint's comment on "accusations of ethnic cleansing" from another thread: (See the original post for all images and links)
According to this there is a jones from england. He is an anarchist and supports Rojava revolution. Well anybody know this anarchist jones? :) there is no more detail than that it is a bit weird really :)
Arab participation/alliance with Tev-Dem/YPG
Syrian Kurds Appoint Arab Governor
Al-Shammar leader threatened by ISIL for cooperation with Syria Kurds, June 8, 2014
There are Shammar in the YPG and YPJ in addition to Liwa Ahrar al-Jazira (LAJ).
Arab youth in the front line with YPG and YPJ, August 8, 2014
"Liwa Ahrar al-Jazira disbanded. Also, it was Shammar tribal militia. Their fighters than formed Karama army, which is now known as Sanadid army."
"Sanadid deployed large force in Tal Hamis battle and are in charge of security of Shammar areas, also jointly control Til Kocer border town"
"Also, not all Shammar are pro-YPG, it's mostly the historically dominant al-Jarba branch, who were the ones supporting YPG. During the February Tel Hamis offensive, loads of Shammaris from al-Faddagha branch were killed fighting for IS against their al-Jarba kinsmen and YPG."
Reddit discussion on the Arab tribes working with the YPG
Zubayd support YPG.
The Battle for Syrias Al Hasakah Province, October 24, 2013
Jawala, Sharabi (Sharabiya), Benitaba and Rashid
YPG Spokesman Redur Xelil: Liberation of Tal Hamis is a Very Strategic Gain, March 1, 2015
New group of Sanadid forces completes trainings, March 15, 2015
Video: Arabic Senadid Forces Speak about YPG Cooperation, February 28, 2015
Kurdish forces cooperate with FSA to free Arab villages from ISIS, February 15, 2015
Kurds bid farewell to Arab fighters killed in anti-ISIS battles northern Syria, March 19, 2015
Syrian Kurds and Arabs unified against ISIL. September 29, 2014
Kurdish Strategy Towards Ethnically-Mixed Areas in the Syrian Conflict, Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 23, December 13, 2013
Rojava Forces: Cizîrê Canton,
Rojava Forces: Cizîrê Canton, with size, locations and roles. Hêzên Xwe Parastinê (thats the static infantry that includes conscripts) is significantly larger than I thought. It is interesting to note that there is a separate Syriac Christian police force--Sutoro("Security"), but not a separate police for Arabs--only the Asayish. Also, note the acknowledgement of 200 HPG (PKK) in the ranks of the YPG.
There are Arabs in the Asayish, some of whom were killed defending Khabur. Arab Asayish martyrs of the #Khabur resistance
Quote: The Kurdish
YPG's greatest challenge: Kurdish-Arab relations in Syria: As YPG prepares for an offensive on the border city of Tel Abyad, how will Arab citizens react towards a predominantly Kurdish force?, April 6, 2015
Quote: “The Arabs came from
Syrian Arab Village Welcomes Kurdish Fighters, October 13, 2013
The FSA group being mentioned here is Islamist groups such as Ahrar al-Sham which has allied with Jabhat al-Nursa (Al Qaeda in Syria)
On the Record: YPG expelling Al-Hasakah Arabs ‘merely talk’, May 27, 2015
Ahh... here is another
Ahh... here is another article by Hannah Lucinda Smith that claims the MFS (Syriac Military Council)/Syriac Union Party (SUP) has an uneasy alliance with the YPG.
Christians, Kurds join forces against 'IS'. May 5, 2015
She's is referencing a group that used to be nicknamed the "Assyrian PKK". Notice how she doesn't quote anyone in the MFS or even the local Syriac community talking about an "uneasy alliance".
The history of the Syriac revolutionaries is fascinating in its own right, but they are tight with the PYD and were part of the administration since the very start of Tev-Dem.
The Revolutionaries of Bethnahrin, May 25, 2015
Hannah Lucinda Smith fabricated an "uneasiness". She's talking shit she doesn't know about and would frankly sound ludicrous to anyone in the MFS.
Assyrian Nationalists Cooperate with Kurdish PKK Insurgents, Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 7 Issue: 8, April 3, 2009
Quote: Hannah Lucinda Smith
I don't know this journalist nor hav CI read this article. I have spoken to Assyrians (here in Turkey not in Syria) who have talked about this 'unease' though. I certainly don't think it's ridiculous.
The think is that you keep posting loads of stuff about how the PYD is on good terms with the Arabs. You don't think it's possible that they are committing acts of ethnic cleansing. I think it is completely expectable.
I also think that these current stories about ethnic cleansing could be lies.
We will see whether it's true or not. Posting loads of stuff about why you think it can't be true, won't change that.
But I really enjoy the links
But I really enjoy the links Flint posted I am ok to get more interesting articles related to Rojava. Of course the reality behind this ethic cleaning story will must be revealed in its own right. I think we definitely have an agreement there.
Lots of Assyrians distrust
Lots of Assyrians distrust Kurds because of historic Kurdish involvement in genocide against Assyrians. Yes, that is totally understable uneasiness. That's not the claim that Smith was making. Smith was claiming the MFS was "uneasy" about alliance with the PYD/YPG. If anything, the MFS are PKK-trained proxies.
Ofcourse ethnic cleansing is a possibility. Its happening all over the place in Syria, and in particular Ahrar ash-Sham (FSA) was doing it to Kurds in Syria a couple years ago. Supposedly, Daesh and some local Arab tribal militias are doing it right now, including 600 refugees stuck at the border . Still no word when Pale Blue Jadal will call on the Turkish state to let those refugees in; nor has PBS (not to be confused with Enternasyonalist Komünist Sol or the International Communist Current!) given an opinion on the videos of Millî İstihbarat Teşkilatı(MIT) trucks moving arms into Syria which certainly weren't going to the YPG. 1,000 mortar shells, hundreds of grenade launchers and more than 80,000 rounds of ammunition for light and heavy weapons. Or Erdogan threatening the press over it. I'd say those revelations were moving Kurdish votes from AKP to HDP, but most of those votes already moved and Erdogan's support for anyone but the YPG is sort of assumed.
Quote: till no word when
This would presumably be because the organisation cease to exist more that six years ago.
EKS dissolved like 6 years
EKS dissolved like 6 years ago?
Whatever the left-communist
Whatever the left-communist group Devrim has influence in is called.
Admittedly that's entirely troll bait, but Devrim already stated he doesn't even bother to read the article I put forward without restating his opinion. He can't read half of them anyway because they are blocked in Turkey and he doesn't care enough to get around the block.
Quote: That's not the claim
Yes, that's what I've heard people say.
Here, I'll fix it and give
Here, I'll fix it and give the benefit of a doubt... I look forward to Pale Blue Jadal's denouncement of bourgeois state of Turkey's border control policies that prohibit unarmed Kurdish refugees from fleeing the Tel Abyad area into Turkey, but allow the movement of weapons into Syria where they end up in the hands of the Ahrar ash-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra.
Joseph Kay wrote: EKS
Ye, six years ago.
Flint wrote: Here, I'll fix
Again not a group I'm a member of.
Am I personally against the Turkish state arming people in the Syrian war, and not letting refugees cross the boarder? Well yes obviously, I am, and I'm sure Pale Blue Jadel are too.
The Lafarge Cement plant
The Lafarge Cement plant website, unchanged since before the civil war
BBC Interview "Allegations
BBC Interview "Allegations against the Kurds of Syria and PYD response" with Hannah Lucinda Smith and Jiwan Efrin, is a representative of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) in London, June 3rd, 2015
Hannah Lucinda Smith went to Rojava--specifically Tel Hamis--in April 2015 with an armed Christian group/militia allied with the YPG (presumably the MFS, who she published a story on here). She claims to have been there 6 weeks after YPG took the area from ISIS.
Hannah Lucinda Smith is claiming that YPG fighters displaced Arabs from the Tel Hamis areas and that those arabs fled largely to Al-Hasakah. Al-Hasakah is the largest city in the Al-Hasakah goveronate/Cizire Canton. It is partially under YPG control and partly under Syrian Arab Army (SAA)/Assad control. The SAA area is currently under attack by Daesh. It seems counter-intuitive that Arab refugees fleeing YPG ethnic cleansing would flee to an area of greater, more established YPG presence. Or perhaps going exclusively to the SAA/NDF controlled neighborhoods.
Here are maps from the area in February 2015 and then April 2015 (when Hannah Lucinda Smith was there):
Here is a summary of Al-Hasakah offensive (February-March 2015)
Al-Hasakah city control divided between YPG and SAA in January 18, 2015
Units involved in the YPG Tel
Units involved in the YPG Tel Abyad campaign.
The Following Forces Are Taking Part In The Operation:
Coming from the east--Cizîrê canton:
YPG and YPJ Forces
Rojava Asayish Forces
Senadit/Al-Senadid Forces (the military force of local Arab tribes-Shammar)
The Syriac Military Council
Zêrevanên Xabûr/Khabour Guards (Local Assyrian/Syria defense forces)
Liwa El-Tahrir/Liwa Al-Tahrir (the branch of the Burkan El Fırat within the Cizîrê canton), from Ras al-ain / Serekaniye
Coming from the west--Kobanê canton:
joint command of the Burkan el Firat/Burkan al-Firat/Euphrates Volcano: Most of the groups within the Burkan el Firat are also members of the Free Syrian Army (FSA). The joint command encompasses the following groups:
Liva El Tevhid/Liwa al-Tawhid
Liva El Siwar El Raka/Liwa Thuwwar al-Raqqa/Raqqa Revolutionaries
Şems El Şemal/kata'eb shams ash-shamal/Northern Sun battalions (YPG Turkmen) attached to the Fecir El Huriye/Liwa Fajr al-Hurriya/Dawn of Freedom Brigades.
Seraya Cerablus/Saraya Jarabulus
Liva Cephet El-Ekrad/Liwa' Jabhat al-'Akrad
Siwar Umunaa El Raka, another Raqqa group
El Kasas Army/Al-Qassas Army
Liva El Cihad Fi Sebilillah/Liwa al-Jihad fi Sabeel Allah/Jihad in the Path of God Brigade.
Source: Peoples’ Operation To Liberate Girê Spî From ISIS, June 2, 2015
Just in case you live in a
Just in case you live in a cave and Libcom is the only website you can access, HDP crossed the electoral threshold and entered into parliament in Turkey as a party. If HDP rhetoric is to be believed, they will prevent Erdogan from changing the constitution of Turkey and increasing the power of the presidency. Erdogan's party the AKP also moved from being the majority party to the largest minority party in Turkey's parliament.
In immediate economic impacts, it caused the stock market in Turkey and the Lira to decrease in value.
Just a quick clarification on
Just a quick clarification on Flint's above comment: HDP aims to change the constitution (along with lines of Rojava possibly), however they are opposed to the constitution that AKP had in mind (like presidency system etc...) So a change in constitution is still possible (as constitution is really bad actually it was created by coup d'etat in 1980, it severely limits individual and collective rights.)
HDP of course also aims to a change in foreign policy (so relating all this to Rojava again)
On funny side:
This is in what we call in Turkish "TOMA". It is a police vehicle to disperse crowds. It is hell for all social movements in Turkey. Turkish public meet with it especially in Gezi protests. (Kurds generally play not with these but with military class vehicles and full automatic rifled man)
Anyway the thing is the stock market shares of the producer of TOMAs fall 10% in just one day after the election and it is continuing to decline.
Also, just to give an idea,
Also, just to give an idea, the company that manufactures the TOMAs is Katmerciler Ekipman, owned by one Ismail Katmerciler, who is an AKP ex-Minister. Cosy.
However, on the chances of any progressive changes in the constitution or many other things for that matter, I have to agree with ROARMag editor Joris Leverkink's assessment yesterday:
I'm wondering if others could
I'm wondering if others could comment on reports about possible civil war among Kurds. I read the following in the Norwegian leftist newspaper Klassekampen (The Class Struggle; sadly the paper is far from as revolutionary as the name would suggest):
Pfffioui! Hard to know where
Pfffioui! Hard to know where to start with an article so ignorant it refers to "the Turkish pershmerga PKK". I mean, ffs, they should at least try to show some interest in the subject...
It's also hard to make out exactly who they are referring to by the term "Iranian Kurdish militia". Obviously not the PJAK (or more precisely YRK/HPJ, to refer specifically to the PJAK's armed structures). And, from not naming the group in question, the article then, confusingly, goes on to talk about the PUK as Iran-backed, and the possibility of a KDP/PUK clash. All hopelessly confused.
As far as I can gather, the incident in question is probably a clash, killing 2, that happened between PKK and Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran (KDPI) (not to be confused with Barzani's Iraqi KDP, NB) on May 24 (see here and here for e.g.). A truce was announced the following day (Monday 25th). No further clashes or killings have been reported in the following 3 weeks.
I think one thing that needs to be understood in the very framing of the question "a civil war between kurds?" is that it presupposes a unified Kurdish civil society that such a conflict would then divide. No such unified civil society has ever existed. Traditional Kurdish politics is tribal, and tribal means a society divided into shifting patterns of clan allegiances to a plurality of tribal confederations who are defined essentially by being more or less permanently at war with all the others. Until the modern period, this state of perpetual warfare helped maintain a belicosity that aided the relative independence of the various Kurdish emirates and mountainous no-go zones. However in the modern period, it has meant, by the same token, that the various tribal militias, become the playthings of the competing regional and global imperialist players. The KDPI, no less that the Barzanists (KDP) and Talabanists (PUK), and all traditional Kurdish nationalist groups, remain in the long heritage of competing and warring tribal confederations. The Ocalanist/KCK affiliates - principally the PKK, but also the PYD and PJAK affiliates - to a certain degree can be seen as just another competitor in this traditional game. Except for a couple of factors. One, Ocalan and the historic PKK core do not come from the traditional ashirat (tribal) chieftian class. Two their initial naive and somewhat catastrophic foray into Kurdish politics was framed as "a war on feudalism" which quickly came a cropper and eventually ended up dragging them into traditional inter-tribal warfare - resulting eventually in a gerilla that was majoritarian (newly) displaced peasant ashirat kurds lead by an educated urban rayat (non-tribal "subject") cadre. In theory this shouldn't provide an insurmountable barrier to accepting re-absorption into traditional ashirat politics, as tribal structures have always been flexible enough to allow new elites from outside existing Kurdish tribes to become dominant. However, for various reasons, the Democratic Autonomy turn - targeting as it does the patriarchal reproductive roots of tribalism - is explicitly aimed at undermining the continual reproduction of tribalism. Whether that strategy will succeed or not remains to be seen, but it is a novel strategy in the history of Kurdish nationalist politics. Certainly in Bakur (Northern, i.e. within Turkish state) Kurdistan, the level of overcoming of traditional tribal emnities for this last election, while far from complete, has gone much further than anything seen before. Thanks as much to Erdogan's cack-handed interventions over Kobani, as much as anything else, to give credit where credit's due, but evenso.
Certainly, however, regardless of the minor PKK-KDPI skirmishes, there are tensions in KRG (Iraqi/Bashur Kurdistan) over Barzani's supposed legal need to run an election soon. Although the PUK are a much weakened force, having been supplanted somewhat by the Gorran movement (Movement for Change) putting it up to both Barzani and Talabani. Somehow Barzani needs to find a pretext to cancel/postpone the elections, and some kind of clash can't be ruled out. But in some ways this is just "business as usual" really.
For some background "colour" on Iranian Kurds, KDPI, Komala, PJAK, etc http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/05/iran-turkey-syria-kurds-iranian-kurds-rise-up.html
edit: also this is not bad for Rudaw http://rudaw.net/english/opinion/04062015
Thanks for that Ocelot. I
Thanks for that Ocelot. I also reacted to the liberal use of Pershmerga and therefore thought that something ain't right if they're that sloppy. Add to the fact that it's the first place I've ever seen even a suggestions of civil war, but not really following event that closely I could not judge for myself. But it also show that the journalistic standards at that paper, which used to be really good when it came to matters on international news, has taken a nose-dive.
This is a really good point.
Edit: I re-read the article to see what sources it relies on. While the piece is longer, it mostly deals with Turkey and HDP and for that they only have one source. A Norwegian leftist activist that was down there. For the bit that I quoted nothing is presented as evidence. Surprised I missed that the first time around.
Edit 2: Link to article if folks want to machine translate it (as a short cut I did that with what I posted, but fixed some of the glaring mistranslations). http://www.klassekampen.no/article/20150608/ARTICLE/150609860
There is a greater than zero
There is a greater than zero chance that Barzani will resort to violence to maintain power when faced with an electoral challenge to relinquish the KRG presidency and the very real material benefits he receives from it and the patronage system that Barzani uses for support.
Also, business as usual for Barzani is suppressing any sort of autonomy movement in his perceived sphere of influence, such as suppressing the HPS militia in Sinjar/Sengal (and Rudaw loyally claiming Iranian influence on HPS). HPS isn't near the threat in Iraq/KRG that the HPG/PKK being in Sinjar, Makmour, Kirkuk, etc...
With the PUK in a literal coma and collapsing... it's left split Gorran (Movement for Change) has already eclipsed it electorally. Gorran's rhetorical platform was destroying the KDP-PUK patron machine. If Gorran gains the remaining PUK votes, it would be the electoral majority. Even an a Gorran-PUK alliance now has the votes to oust Barzani from the presidency; which is why he delayed presidential elections by two years. That two years, he has only lost popularity.. not gained it from several problems: the abandonment of the Yezidi on Sinjar, the economic boycott of Rojava, digging a literal trench between Rojava and KRG, delays in public sector payments, economic decline, the weakness of the peshmerga where Daesh almost made it into Erbil/Howler and the road had to be blocked by the PKK, failing to protect Makmour, and the usual charges of corruption, nepotism, embezzlement and authoritarian rule.
The recent flare up with KDPI (distinct from the KDP) by entering into HPG/PKK territory is seen by some as the KDPI as a proxy for the KDP to test the PKK or cause some sort of incident to weaken the PKK’S growing popularity in the KRG/Iraq/Bashur. The PKK is probably more popular than it has ever been. Rudaw dutifully reporting KDPI rhetoric that the PKK was allied with Iran, was made up of Alevis not Sunnis, etc...
The KDP has lost almost all influence in Rojava, and all powersharing agreements with the PYD and the KNC (which is largely KDP affilates parties or their allies, some only a few individuals) failed to work, and with the recent elections in Rojava are void (And KDP parties boycotted the Rojava elections).
KCK/PYD has seen it can grow in failed states like Syria through a combination of canton democracy and force of arms. It's seen that it can grow parliamentary elections through the HDP in Turkey (and the HDP got far more votes than Barzani could dream of getting in KRG. The KDP affiliated parties in Turkey aren't significant). Iraq is a failing state, the KRG is a failing defacto-state. Barzani faces a decision to either have a presidential election he would like lose, or defy parliament's increasing demands to have one. If he flagrantly defies it, we might see new cantons form in Sinjar, Makmour and Sulaymaniyah (the Gorran stronghold).
The KRG peshmerga aren't a unified army. It's more a KDP militia and PUK militia that coordinate. The PUK miltia commander has indicated that he'd take orders from Gorran parliamentary ministers. He also gave his personal sniper rifle to a PYD representative to defend Rojava. The PUK militia in Rojava dissolved into the YPG.
The PKK is barred by the KRG from having an electoral party (they even banned YPG funerals in KRG). PKK has indicated support for Gorran. Gorran has indicated support for the HPG/PKK in defending KRG, and support for the YPG in Rojava.
For Newroz this year, HPG/PKK openly paraded on the streets of Sulaymaniyah.
Quote: Rudaw dutifully
Turkish Alevis and Arab Alevis are actually different religions. They are usually referred to as 'Alevis' and 'Alawites' in English. If the PKK were made up of Alevis, they wouldn't be the same Alevis as Assad.
Devrim wrote: Quote: Rudaw
also quite funny because for long time, the PKK was comparatively weak among the non-Sunni and non-Kurmandji-speaking inhabitants of North-West Kurdistan and was in areas like Dersim perceived as a Sunni & Kurmandji org
Entdinglichung wrote: also
It still is perceived in that way by many people. A personal friend from Dersim, who I was talking to recently typifies this. He said he was even voting for HDP because "you have to", but he still felt that the PKK was funds mentally an anti-Alevi organisation.
Now personally I think it's true that the Kurdish national movement has changed on this question, but you can't blame people who feel uncomfortable with it basically for having memories.
Devrim wrote: Entdinglichung
true, ... on the same level, there is also the perception, that TKP/ML, MLKP, EMEP/DIDF etc. are organisations which are mainly representing Zaza-speaking Alevis with roots in Dersim and Elazig and that the "T" in the acronym doesn't mean Turkey but Tunceli
There is a feeling among some
There is a feeling among some Zazas that the Kurdish nationalist movement is trying to assimilate them. Of course there are other Zazas who are quite happy to be considered Kurdish. Nevertheless, it is quite ironic considering how the Turkish state denied the existence of Kurds for so long.
Relatively up to date Iraq
Relatively up to date Iraq map showing position of HPG/PKK, YPG, etc...
And Syria with the YPG/FSA (Burkan Al-Firat) closing in on Tel Abyad.
In Norther Aleppo, Daesh threatens the FSA. YPG/YPJ has volunteered to protect civilians at the border town of Azaz/
New foreign battalion 'Free Internationalists Brigade' was announced today. The battalion consists of MLKP, TKP-ML/TİKKO, United Liberation Forces "Birleşik Özgürlük Güçleri" (BÖG), MLSPB, Reconstrucción Comunista and German, Circassian, Turkish, Greek and Armenian revolutionaries. The aim of the battalion is to protect all People's in the Region and Middle East against the Islamic State
Battalion member from Germany speaking (English)
"Revulation"? Not sure if
"Revulation"? Not sure if something got lost or gained in translation there.
Quote: ... on the same level,
Well, the MLKP did well for itself. The leader of its legal party is now an MP and the cochair of the Peoples' Democratic Party, which came into being as a result of the allience of the Turkish and Zaza leftists and the Kurdish PKK aligned social democracy.
EMEP also has at least one deputy from the People's Democratic Party lists and they are strong in Dersim but more importantly, this party is known for being strong and effective in the trade-union bureaucracy and the working class. It basically behaves like a traditional tankie Communist Party despite its Hoxhaist roots.
TKP/ML and its numerous variants are really the ones who have their roots in Dersim and the Zaza ethnic group. They tend to change their alligence every now and then, making alliences with the Republican Popular Party then and the Kurdish nationalists now. They are a very small organizations, and their guerillas are rumored to spend their times playing cards in village coffee houses by day and going back to the mountains at night.
No, the "T" doesn't mean Tunceli. All of these groups reject the term "Tunceli", a name invented by Kemalists for Dersim, more than they reject the term "Turkey". In fact, no one rejects the latter anymore. In almost every Peoples' Democratic Party rally there were people who waved Turkish national flags.
Leo wrote: No, the "T"
if I remember correctly, that was a slur by the PKK
YPG/YPJ and Burkan El-Firat continue their fight against IS. Just know they captured the roda connecting Cizîre ve Kobanê cantons. so the fighters fighting in both cantoms now reached to each other. They are I suppose now moving to the city of Til Ebyad to liberate the city.
Pictures showing IS
Pictures showing IS preventing displaced families from crossing the Turkish border.
Leo wrote: EMEP also has at
the EMEP's diaspora front DIDF has each one MP in the Netherlands (on the SP list) and in Germany (inside Die Linke) and also two of the twelve state assembly members of Die Linke in Hamburg are from DIDF, also aligned to Die Linke are the HDP/PKK sympathisers, most Yazidi associations (there are 60-80000 Yazidi in Germany) and the GDF which was the front org of the former TKP/TIP
Hi infrared (I think) the
(I think) the link you share get some things wrong. First of all it is Turkish state that prevented these people to enter into its territory. These refugees were afraid of the war coming to their city as ypg approaches. Anyway the number of people waiting in the border increased for some time now (people were slowly gathering at the border). And later IS forces came and forced people back into the city. Ypg says IS uses civillians as humanshields (in what way I am not sure though, to prevent bombings maybe? ) also it was interesting that IS fighters and Turkish army were very close to each other in this event. There are photos of IS fighters smiling to reporters from Turkish side. There occured no fight between IS and Turkey at all, dispate this closeness.
This report on the main BBC news last night tends to confirm the recent Times report regarding the "ethnic cleansing" of Arabs by the YPG. The YPG and its American allies have just succeeded in taking the town of Tal Abyad from ISIS. The reports from the fleeing refugees say that they were forced out of their homes and towards the Turkish border by Kurdish forces. There seems very little chance of these people going back to their homes as this latest incident shows the strategy of the US and its allies in its policy of "scorched earth". This is not good news for western leftists, nor western democracies who both see these forces as benevolent progressives or allies in battle. The argument about whether this is ethnic cleansing or not is entirely secondary to the nationalist and imperialist nature of all the forces involved in this war.
Baboon you might care or not
Baboon you might care or not be able to comprehend the difference between claims of an ethnic cleansing (or any sort of ethnic/racial destructive politics) and your ideological preferences in a war situation. However I do, and I think it is important to get to the bottom of things to know whether YPG does or does not do "ethnic cleansing". I think that story should have made us learn the dangers of ethnic discrimination/removal policies (and how they were also made by socialist forces)
As discussed above these people escaped city with very understandable motivations to escape an incoming war. And later most of them were re-forced back into the city by IS. Now some of them went to (tens of thousands) Turkey and some of IS fighters also entered Turkey, photo of smiling IS fighter with a Turkish soldier while being arrested:
Anyway so there is still no proof that Kurds are trying to change the ethnicity of the region (also Kurds do fight with Arabs among the ranks of YPG and with some FSA members)
Moreover this is yenisafak it is a pro-government newspaper (and is one of the most ass-licking newspapers ever!) They give the fall of Tel Abed news with the title: "the war will get bigger"
They also claim YPG does thnic cleansing to arabs, Turkmens and Kurds ( it is in the article). Anyway they claim kurds will move kurd to the city and make the city kurdish. Turkish State already stated his disapproval of PYD many times. and recently the videos and documents of Turkey transferring to Syria (and claimed to the group IS) was revealed.
Moreover see the Times writers twitter: https://twitter.com/hannahluci/status/605139119946235904
She still does not say her source's name. However someone (who had an HDP picture) claims that she has met with IHH people in Batman and get the source of her news from them. (well she says she did not go there herself) Anyway this IHH is a pro-government human rights association. that is not big neither did anything that proved its objectivity.
PYD on the other hand invited her to see the ground with her own eyes and determine whether any ethnic cleansing happened.
Anyway what I am saying in short is this: 1) Know the difference between ethnic cleansing policies and people fighting from war. 2) and do care about these people do not consider them to be secondary to your overall schema 3) Do not be a tool of Turkish government and its manipulative news agencies while trying to act internationalist. 4) Do not try to jump to conclusions from 3-5 sentence news (as you also tried to jump to conclusions about me being a nationalist, as I asked people to stay on a topic in a forum thread about Turkey) 5) -At least for me-, what Devrim first stated seems to be getting proven this all ethnic cleansing thing is a propaganda that is created for Turkish state's interests.
Ethnic cleansing is fully
Ethnic cleansing is fully part of imperialist war. Whether some bourgeois organisations, or the Turkish government - which is supporting IS in more ways than one - call this "ethnic cleansing" is secondary from a point of view that sees no "socialist" forces engaged here at all - only those fighting for various nationalisms within an imperialist framework.
Their understanding might not
Their understanding might not fit to your understanding of ethnic peace (if you have any) or you might hope that ethnicity will be gone after the day of revolution (because it never did interestingly??). However PYD/YPG is not a nationalist movement. They are opposed to nationalism ideologically. However they engage with the hard task of making peace between different ethnic groups who are at war among themselves. They try to integrate all different ethnic and religious groups to their micro and macro democratic structures (and they do this I mind you against the risk of opening the way to a Kurdish nationalism among Kurds against their multi-ethnic politics). I bet (again) we will hear about Tel Abed and its preserved ethnic population after the war, and I would be joyful to share it here (if not the opposite is true of course) Anyway let's stick to news in this thread again.
This is linked to my above
This is linked to my above comments related to IS support of Turkey and it has just happened an hour ago.
The City Governer of Urfa İzzettin Küçük, has just ordered cops to arrest four news reporters, just because they asked him about the rumors of IS activity in the city. The newspaper people are taken to anti-terror office of the police in the city.
kurremkarmerruk wrote: 5) -At
It's not actually what I said. What I said was that I was unsure about it and that it could have been black propaganda created in the Turkish state's interests. As time goes on I am more inclined to think that it's not. I think now that we can be reasonably sure that some ethnic cleansing is going on. Of course, personally I am not at all surprised.
I don't think that this is necessarily, or even probably, a decision that was taken by the YPG command structure.It probably starts quite low on the ground, a unit losses discipline and massacre some people in a village, some people take revenge for what has happened to their relatives, and it escalates from there, people on the other side hit back, and it doesn't matter which side started it, and then the spiral deepens.
The YPG/PKK assault on Tal Abyad is already displacing tens of thousands of people. Many will just be fleeing from the war. Even then, most of this round of refugees are Arabs.
People fleeing a potential
People fleeing a potential conflict area BEFORE an army shows up isn't ethnic cleansing. It would be ethnic cleansing if the arriving/occupying army actively pushed people out of their homes OR refused to allow refugees who fled the fighting to return. It is important to provide evidence of such.
There is very little evidence in that 3 minute story on BBC news.
Now, Tel Abyad isn't some isolated, rural village. Its a significant town with a prewar population of 52,000 located on a prominent border crossing and Akçakale is large too. Tel Abyad has a large arab population. Whether or not the Turkish state allows Tel Abyad refugees to return to Tel Abyad will be known soon. Whether or not the YPG allows arab refugess to return to Tel Abyad soon will be known soon. Whether or not the YPG encourages kurds who WERE ethnically cleansed from Tel Abyad by Ahrar al Sham and Islamic State will so be known. Then, we will soon know whether a Tev-Dem like local council structure is setup, and whether both arabs and kurds participate. We'll also soon know if no local democratic council is setup and Tel Abyad is run as a military dictatorship by either the YPG or (more likely) one of primarily Arab FSA groups--most likely Liwa Thuwwar al-Raqqa (Raqqa Revolutionaries). Most likely Liwa Thuwwar al-Raqqa will want to use Tel Abyad as their headquarters as part of their campaign to liberate Raqqa from the Islamic State. So, we should know what's up with the YPG in Tel Abyad relatively soon.
Tel Abyad is not scorched earth. It was taken very quickly and Daesh seems to have retreated/surrendered/abandoned the city. Its not a ruin like Kobane. YPG-Burkan Al Firat took Suluk, Tel Abyad and Ayn Issa over a few days. It didn't take weeks or months of siege as was feared. The rapid success of that campaign I think was surprising to everyone.
One thing we do know about Tel Abyad is that when it was under Islamic State control, Turkey provided Tel Abyad with electricity. Now that it is under YPG control, Turkey cut off the electricity. Turning back on the electricity would certainly encourage refugees to return. Maybe folks can pressure Turkey to do that.
Ahrar Al-Sham pushed a group of 15 islamist rebel groups to sign a statement accusing of YPG of engaging in ethnic cleansing in Tel Abyad. None of those groups including Ahrar Al-Sham is currently active in Tel Abyad (Daesh having removed them).
Arabic Al-Baggara tribe's leader Sh al-Tala: Residents denied any ethnic cleansing by YPG
Liwa al-Tahrir (FSA) denouncing claims of ethnic cleansing against YPG. Liwa al-Tahrir (FSA) is one of the Arab groups that helped YPG liberate Tel Abyad from the Daesh.
Well my mistake than Devrim
Well my mistake than Devrim of misquoting you. sorry for that.
Anyway I am now getting more inclined to think that as Turkey lost its connection with IS might engage more actively with Syria. As there are leaked documents (I shared them in a comment above) proving Turkey provided guns to IS. Also there are real rumors that IS elements travel freely in Turkey. As also Flint noted Turkey supports war efforts of IS also in indirect ways (electricity, see above) This ethnic cleansing thing might be part of this. As there is a governmental crisis in turkey mainly thanks to HDP (kurdish party) it is not obvious which party will rule over Turkey. This is freaking Turkish authorities out as they clearly supported IS war efforts and they can be judged by internal or external courts for that.
A good example of this is the news I shared above: The arrest of reporters.
Reporter: From what hese people run away? From IS?
Governer They run away from PKK/PYD terror and American bombs
Reporter: Many people we speak does not say so, why do you think does this difference comes from?
Governer: No there is nothing to discuss. (Then he tries to move away and shows newspaper to be arrested with fingers at the end of video)
This newspaper reporter from Turkey claims the Governer himself aware of support of IS and he himself contributed to them. http://www.diken.com.tr/ahmet-siktan-gazetecileri-gozaltina-aldiran-sanliurfa-valisi-kucuke-bes-soru/ He also says there is a huge activity of IS in Urfa that makes refuges afraid (as the reporters in video claimed). I am not sure though what these IS activities that make them scared though ( I have my guesses)
Anyway, we will see what are the real motivation of the refugees, if Turkey does not attack (directly or indirectly) to Tel Abed. If war passes over and Tel Abend is safe, maybe many might come back.
On the other hand in Kurdish media Tel Abed is said to be a formerly kurdish area, however later Syrian regime kicked the Kurds to disconnect and separate Kurds living in Syria to better assimilate them. We will see what will happen in the end.
Good short video from France
Good short video from France 24 on the political tensions between PKK and KDP in SInjar
Aljazeera which sympathetic to Arab forces (FSA) and against Kurds (on occasion) has an interesting news related to that, my translation:
Well I think this settles it. I expect to see more confirmation of this fact from other sources as well now.
1) IS attacked Aleppo, and
1) IS attacked Aleppo, and specifically to Turkmens with suicide bombs.
2)YPG said they will connect the administration of Tel Abed to Kobani. Salih Muslim says:
And he also says: "everyone can come back to the city" and "administration of the city will be left to civilians"
Also more on this is on this Turkish link:
Salih Muslim's own son is killed by Turkey supported gangs in Tel Ebyad in 2013 by the way. Still Salih Muslim says we will kick nobody out. There are mine problems in the city and around. In 2012 Islamic forces de-kurdified the city, some of the homes of the kurds were used by IS forces now, possibly they will take their houses and come back also.
3) Flint, also by the way Duran Kalkan a KCK member (congress movement of PKK) yesterday said that "we finished our relations with Barzani"
Anyway the real message behind this line is: "The understanding of Barzani that sees himself at the center of Kurdish politics is finished. We did not know their motivation, maybe they believed to AKP (governing party of Turkey) too much. but they failed. Now we will establish our relations in a dfferent way. People who rise up to oppression and establish democracy this is theirpower and rights we support." (simplified translation by me
Also you might have seen it but Barzani some time ago said "Duran Kalkan is a threator and provoking civil war." so the conflict between KDP and PKK is most concrete nowadays between these two people.
kurremkarmerruk wrote: Well
No problem, people make mistakes.
I think that it's been quite obvious for quite a while that Turkey has been providing weapons to the Da'esh in the war. The guns found in an aid convoy by the gendarmerie in Adana in January provided more than a bit of a clue. Of course a change in government could quite possibly signal a new policy towards Syria. As you say, there is a crisis in government now, but there has not been a change. The most likely result of this crisis in my opinion will be either snap elections or an AKP-MHP coalition, which wouldn't signify a massive change in policy.
Although lots of people in Turkey are talking about Tayyip being tried as a war criminal, and he certainly is a war criminal, I don't think that this is likely to happen.
If when the dust has settled there has been a real change in the demographics of the area, I would say there has been ethnic cleansing. We will see.
An interview with Haqi Firat
An interview with Haqi Firat who is a first degree commander in Burkan El Fırat (an arab force). he says that the accusations of ethnic cleansing are pure fabrication of those who are with Is and oppose to brotherhood (and sisterhood) of peoples. He says no such event occured and we are in this together (as Arabs and Kurds and other peoples)
Apparently there is also new fake news created by IS supporting media. The accusation is that there is a problem between YPG and Burkan El Fırat so Burkan is pulled back to Kobane. Well this is fake YPG says it is untrue in the below. Moreover in the link above Haqi Firat also says that this is a lie spesifically (I did not know about this fake news, before I read the interview with Haqi Firat so order of these tow news were a bit awkward.)
This news source is a news source related to a communist party (MLKP) who supports YPG actively on the ground. An injured communist mentions "people did not supported in IS but has were silent to their occupy of their city" and he adds "revolution can only be possible if we spread it to arab population as well". Moreover "people clapped and shaked hands with us ones the city was liberated."
It is obvious that this non-nationalistic politics of YPG/PYD and groups allied with them (especially the Arab and Turkmen civilians and forces) what makes nationalistic and fundamentalist forces fear most. The ethnic multiplicity and level of democratic organization of Tel-Abyed (Gire spi) in short future will surely set an example that has fertile potential to expand and bring peace to the region.
Qasioun news apologizes for
Qasioun news apologizes for publishing fabricated article about YPG leader apologizing for Arab displacement (in Arabic)
The earlier article with criticism
Quote: Turkey on Thursday
Turkey blocks Syrian refugees seeking to return to Tal Abyad, Thursday, 18 June 2015 (alarabiya.net)
Lucy Kafanov: "Turkey closes its border crossing with Syria at Akcakale, preventing refugees from returning home to Tal Abyad. YPG commander Redur Khalil tells me Turkey decided to close its side of border and that Kurds are keeping border open from Tal Abyad side" (pt 2), 18 Jun 2015
IHD report: ISIS gangs crossed over into Turkey, Wednesday, June 17, 2015, İnsan Hakları Derneği İHD (Human Rights Association)
PYD leader: YPG forces will hand over Tel Abyad city to a civil administration, June 18, 2015 (aranews.net)
I am putting this to show how far Turkish propaganda can go. These are today's first pages of newspapers close to Government of Turkey. They all dedicated their headlines of today to make anti-propaganda against PYD as PYD recently took Tel Abed.
The biggest one (on the left) is Sabah it says openly in the title: "IS is much more threatening than PYD".
Yenisafak says in one subtitle of its news (about PYD) "These are not humans".
Gunes and Star newspapers go so counterfactual that they claimed "PYD closed the border door". (well apparently they did to remove the bombs, they also said they will allow people to pass monday )
Kurdistan Regional Government
Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) parliament in Iraq is entertaining a motion of an amendment to presidency that would allow parliament to elect the president by secret ballot of parliament members rather than a general election. PUK and Goran are pushing this position with support of the Islamic Union of Kurdistan (IUK) and . Islamic Group in Kurdistan (IGK). KDP opposes it, seeing it as a measure to remove Barzani from the presidency. Barzani called for a new election for president in August and he (or his son or nephew) would presumably on the KDP ticket. Problem is, the draft constitution says his time is up. Lots of claims of threats of violence if KDP doesn't get its way. Trouble is, KDP doesn't have a majority of seats in parliament (nor did it get a majority in the last parliamentary elections nor in the governate elections). Gorran (the 2nd largest party) and PUK (the 3rd largest party) have enough votes in either parliament or a general election to unseat KDP and Barzani. 57 out of 111 MPs attend current Kurdistan parliament session--54 KDP affiliated parliament members boycotted the session.
The relevancy to Rojava? PUK and Gorran are far more pro-Rojava than Barzani and the KDP are.
https://twitter.com/SlemaniTimes (PUK media)
http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/230620153 (KDP media)
Hi Folks! Really amazing that
Really amazing that nobody (kurremkarmerruk? Flint?) didn’t yet publish on Libcom the great last text of the “Kurdish anarchist” Zaher Baher: “The Reconstruction of Kobane – Thoughts of a Kurdish Anarchist”…
Full of instructive stands and grasping about class struggle, state, capitalism and other stuffs…
NO! “Decentralization” doesn’t mean and lead to “weakening the authority of the state”, it’s just another way and form how the state gets organized and how capitalism reforms itself. BTW “the state” cannot be confined and restricted to governmental structures and apparatuses.
GREAT such a grasping of what capitalism is! BTW why then to write just before:
It’s true that PKK/PYD is able to manage this sector of the economy without any “central government”. And then Zaher Baher is falling into apology of the development of tourism, probably as a way to develop “Revolution in Rojava” and in the rest of Kurdistan:
And even farther in the text, he insists:
And as “Democratic confederalism” praised and applied by PKK/PYD in Rojava as well as in Bakur (Turkish Kurdistan) aims at conserving/abolishing national boundaries (very original conception) between the nations-states of the region, Rojava will surely also become a touristic region as it’s already a destination for Westerner academics delegations trying to find there a renewal of their carriers.
But there as everywhere under the black sun of capitalism, the contradiction bourgeoisie vs. proletariat expresses itself:
YES indeed! Well done, old mole! A “lack of confidence among people”… What a polite way to say that the proles “there” as “here” don’t care about all these speeches about restructuration of capital even if under mottos like “social economy”, “private property in profit of everybody”, ad nauseam…
Have good reading nevertheless of this text as well as “A mountain river has many bends: an introduction to the Rojava revolution” which is a sheer piece of reformism…
Guerre de Classe wrote: it’s
Guerre de Classe
Someone has professor envy.
Guerre de Classe wrote: Have
Guerre de Classe
I wonder by what criteria Guerre de Classe would regard something as "revolutionist". Four quarters of all property being commons? Five Sixths? Seven Eighths? Nine Tenths? And Workers Councils in half the enterprises? two thirds? three fourths? Workers councils in every 2 member family enterprise?
I still think compared to the situation for the majority of the world's proletarians, the Rojava reforms would be quite welcome.
I'm willing to reserve judgement until I hear how the thousand potential workers at the Lafarge Cement Plant are organized and how the product of that plant is distributed before I decide.
@Guerre de Classe Well if you
@Guerre de Classe
Well if you could spend time on reading about Rojava and Kurdish movement in general,as much as you try to make fun of great "kurdish anarchists" or post your spiritual leader's self-contradictory and (factually) ignorant and empirically empty texts in all of the world languages. you could see that it was already published by KAF however with a different title (and very bad formatting). However unlike you when I read it easily regonise it and said to myself "wait a minute I already read this stuff propably on libcom". Anyway your accusations and attitude towards Zaher is just shit in my opinion and it kills any fruitful discussion from the start.
Also do I need to remind you that this thread is a "Rojava News" thread? If you want to discuss stuff post it then criticize it. If you have no news (like; racist kurds killing arabs again), then go away!
Kurds advance on Raqqa after taking key military base
Redur Halil says: "although all of the Syria would love if the raqqa is taken we currently have no such plan." He denies the news saying the contrary.
I am really not sure why this difference between the times and YPG is very obvious now, I would really love to know the source of this constant contradiction between these two.
Note: there were a double post here originally, I changed to something more useful now.
YPJ Commander Nesrin Abdullah
YPJ Commander Nesrin Abdullah speaks in Italian Parliament:
Noteworthy that she expresses the YPJ's autonomy.
kurremkarmerruk wrote: Redur
Part of the confusion might be Raqqa the governorate and Raqqa the city, Aleppo the governorate and Aleppo the city, and Al-Hasakah the governorate and Al-Hasakah the city. Aleppo governorate includes Efrin city, Kobane city and parts of the Efrin and Kobane cantons. Raqqa governorate includes Tel Abyad and Sere Kaniye and parts of the Kobane and Cizire Canton. Al-Hasakah governorate includes Al-Hasakah city, Qamshlo, Khabour river valley, Tal Barak Tel Hamis and other parts of Cizire Canton. So YPG is advancing in Raqqa, Al-Hasakah and Aleppo, but the YPG is not seiging Raqqa city yet (and frankly, is unlikely too without considerable FSA and/or Arab support).
Most likely, YPG will surround Sarrin, siege it. They will also probably take Tishrin dam. They will then cross the Euphrates and go for Manjib and Jarabulus and do so by supporting Burkan Al-Firat in the lead, particularly the Jarabulus brigade (Saraya Jarabulus) in the lead along with Jabhat al-Akrad and Jaysh al-Thuwar (including whatever is left of Harakat Hazzm). The Islamic State is unlikely to destroy the Tishrin dam (as they have blown up all the other bridges along the Euphrates river) as that would be a crime against humanity that would most negatively effect the very capitol they are supposedly trying to protect--Raqqa.
Before the rise of the Islamic State, the YPG controlled a considerable area in Northern Aleppo between Efrin and Jarabulus. It was a Kurdish majority area before the war. They could presumably move into the area of Islamic State control in Northern Aleppo and find it easier than sieging Raqqa. They could also move resources between Efrin and Cizirie freely. They could also connect to Sheikh Maqsood in northern Aleppo. Efrin YPG has recently "volunteered" to take over the border crossing at Azaz from the FSA so that the Islamic state doesn't take it.
31 October 2013:
Folks in the YPG have stated that they will pursue Daesh anywhere they were, but that is mostly just rhetoric. Are they going to Yemen, Libya, etc... ? No.
It makes most sense for them to connect the cantons and liberate Sinjar.
Also, the Times article is highlighting FSA/YPG taking Ayn Issa and the Brigade 93 army base. While they are on the road to Raqqa, they more importantly help the YPG finish securing the strategic M-4 highway that runs from Aleppo, crossing the Euphrates then running along the defacto Rojava border in Kobane, into Cizire canton, through Qamshlo, to the Al-Ya'rubiyah border crossing with Iraq (that even includes a railroad line). At this point, the YPG probably cares far more about holding M4 than it does removing Daesh from Raqqa. Securing M4 is also likely why YPG just started an operation to take Sarrin.
There are similar news in other left news sources I follow
New FSA formation in Northern
New FSA formation in Northern Raqqa:
"The following groups are contained:
Liwa Jihad fi Sabeelillah (Jihad for the Sake of God Brigade) - fought in Kobani, has had a long-standing presence in Raqqah, fighting a guerrilla campaign against ISIS.
Liwa Jund al-Haramayn (Soldiers of the Holy Mosques Brigade) - formed recently, also active in Kobani
Liwa al-Tahrir (Liberation Brigade): Was based in Serekaniye/Ras al-Ayn before the recent YPG/FSA offensive on Tel Abyad
Liwa Ahrar al-Tabqa (Free Men of Tabqa Brigade)
Liwa Harun al-Rashid (Harun al-Rashid Brigade)
Jabhat Thuwar Tel Abyad (Tel Abyad Revolutionaries Front)
Liwa Umana al-Raqqah"
A couple of these groups were already associated with Burkan Al-Firat.
A bomb exploded in Kobani
A bomb exploded in Kobani killing 8 injuring 38. It is rumored to be a suicide bombing
Ypg says IS attack came from Turkish border. It was directly against civilians.
This is old news, but it is a
This is old news, but it is a series of questions to Salih Muslim about the Cizire canton elections and the KNC party boycott of that election. I hadn't seen it before, and I imagine most folks haven't.
Answers: Salih Muslim, PYD co-chairman, 21 March 2015
With any luck, I may soon get an answer in regards to the Tev-Dem plans for the organization and distribution of product of the Lafarge Cement Plant soon.
The number of deaths reached 146 today (injuries more than 500 according to another news) . IS militants captured a school and attack from there and has hostages. Due to that YPG engage with a fight with a very "controlled" manner, not to harm civilians. However this extends the fight as well. Human Rights Observatıry says this is the second largest massacre by IS against civilians.
UPDATE: Civilians are saved (80 of them)
Jaysh al-Qassas may have left
Jaysh al-Qassas may have left Burkan al-Firat
Turkey and Kobane Canton agree to open border crossing (6/18/2015)
With progress by Daesh in
With progress by Daesh in Al-Hasakah city, reports coming in of Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and National Defense Force (NDF) defecting/surrendering to the YPG and Asayish (numbers vary); as well as SAA allying with YPG to defend Al-Hasakah from Daesh. NDF in Al-Ghazal neighborhood join YPG forces; loyalists forces evacuated Al-Ghazal barrier in the East of the city and were replaced by kurdish forces this morning. One rumored dynamic is that Christian NDF are joining YPG while Sunni Arab NDF are joining Daesh. Several NDF units and many Assyrian and Armenian families have crossed into Rojavan Hasakah
Meanwhile in Kobane, MSF (Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors without Borders) claims 50 civilians held hostage by Daesh.
PKK camps in Bashur/Qandil
PKK camps in Bashur/Qandil Mountains/Iraq/KRG in 2008:
Flint I don't know if you did
Flint I don't know if you did shared it on purpose but despite ongoing (well it is not going anywhere actually but) peace process between PKK and Turkish state and one-sided ceasefire by Kurdish forces, yesterday Turkish air force bombed a region under the control of Kurds in the mountains. PKK said Turkey ended the ceasefire themselves now and they have a right to retaliate now, though I do not think they will use it immediately.
On the other hand Turkish state is bringing military personal and equipment to the border and there is a talk of establishment of a safety corridor in Syria, which might mean fighting versus YPG as well. PKK said if they do such a thing they will consider it as an attack to Amed (capital city of kurdistan) and retaliate with equal force. So it is getting tense in here a bit.
I hesitate to post
I hesitate to post sabre-rattling. It sounds like that Erdogan wanted to create a "buffer zone" between Jarabulus and Azaz to "protect Turkey", but also shove all the Syrian refugees into that zone, but really about putting the Turkish army in the way of linking Afrin and Kobane cantons, and who knows maybe continue supply Islamist/Nursa/Daesh (depending on how conspiracy minded you are). But that the Army doesn't want to do that.
Map of area to create "buffer zone":
Turkey Vows Retaliation, but Rejects Syria Intervention
Turkish army stands firm against government’s demands it engage in Syria
While I think parliament chose an AKP speaker, it still hasn't formed a government yet?
So maybe Erdogan is serious, maybe he's just looking to get some MHP voters to go his way in a snap eelection. Hard to say. Impossible for us to know the minds of Erdogan and generals.
So, I hesitate to post stories that are just talk. And, unfortunately, small scale shelling or bombing by the military of Turkey on Qandil happens as often as the rain, no? And still the PKK largely has held its fire.
So talk is talk.
I've also been hesitant to post about the situation in Hasakah until it was more resolved, but it seems like the YPG has pushed back Daesh, and the Baathists/SAA/NDF will cede territory to the YPG, namely: al-Kallasah district, the industrial zone, al-Aziziyah, the Assyrian district and al-Ghazal. I wanted to wait until this was confirmed, but it seems logical given recent events there. This would likely include the road to the Kawkab Artillery Base and no word on ceding that yet.
The head of the Syrian
The head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) rebuts claims of YPG ethnic cleansing.
Infrared. wrote: The head of
Yeah, but that might be like one guy in London.
You're right, it is. After a
You're right, it is. After a quick google, on their website it lists one guy as the only contact. Not such a credible source.
Yeah there is still no
Yeah there is still no goverment.
The latest bombing was the biggest since last three years. And first time pkk said the state broke the ceasefire.
Well this buffer zone talk might get real.
also yesterday Al jeazere published a talk with a turkmen leader who says pyd displaced 5000 turkmens. I think the turkmens just support the turkish state vrrsus kurds though.
Flint, what's your #1 source
Flint, what's your #1 source for Kurdish news? (for me it's this thread). Over the last week you've posted links to a lot of different news sites plus a bunch of twitter feeds, I'm wondering if there's a particular source you'd recommend?
Also, has there been progress on getting a speaker from Rojava to come to Red Emma's like you mentioned a couple months ago?
Well Flint indeed wrote about
Well Flint indeed wrote about "Our Beloved Great Leader" [Ocalan] that:
I've also read an interview given to Kurdish/Turkish feminist "JINHA" News Agency by two militants of IAF saying that:
Anarchists: 'we found the Rojava revolution to be our own'
Poor Emma, she surely must be turning in her grave while reading this kind bullshit. I'm very skeptical that she would stay long on a supportive position about the fantastic PKK/PYD "revolution" in Rojava. Here is what she wrote about another myth and imposture some decades ago:
My Disillusionment in Russia
You're entitled to your
You're entitled to your opinion.
"Anti-War" was deliberately misrepresenting a quotation. That's intellectually dishonest and it makes their contributions to discussion circumspect.
Who knows what Emma Goldman would have thought. We do know that Zeki Yılmaz and Su Ender, of the International of Anarchist Federations have a favorable view of Rojava. Maybe you would also have a favorable view if you went. Or you can keep digging around for century old quotes you think apply to the situation.
It is interesting that JINHA wants to promote the IAF support.
I tend to weigh the opinion of people who actually go places and talk to others more than those who do not (including myself in that category). You, ofcourse, will use your own criteria for determining what is happening (or not happening) in Rojava.
Confirmation that Western
Confirmation that Western volunteers get the same ideological training course that the rest of the YPG/YPJ get.
Who are the foreign fighters taking on the Islamic State?Michael McEvoy, 25 June 2015
Quote: When was Social
From Tuzluçayır to Kobane: Interview With An Anarchist Warrior / Tuzluçayır’dan Kobane’ye Uzanan Bir Anarşist Savaşçı, June 28, 2015
And Fnordie, I haven't
And Fnordie, I haven't ignored your request. Its just a long answer. I've been planning to put out a media guide so folks know what source is PUK-media, what source is KDP-media, etc...
Flint! (about your comment
Flint! (about your comment #143)
You're definitely and definitively being dishonest. it's rare to meet somebody so "mauvaise foi" (in French in the original text) exept of course "Our Beloved Great Leader" kurremkarmerruk who is the master of the universe in this connection. There's no need to give any example. Everybody is able to find some on this blog. You definitively put me right off discussing with you!
And I personaly don't care about your "libertarian socialist ideology derived from the writings of the US anarchist Murray Bookchin" which is nothing but just an umpteenth Social-Democratic attempt to deny and suppress proletarian struggles: MB himself pretended that he didn't "believe" anymore to the affirmation of class struggle, the role of the proletariat and he even didn't talk anymore about "revolution" which for me seems to be something good because the lesser reformists claim the essence of social revolution, the better it is for drawing a clear and clarificative demarcation line between reformers and destroyers of capitalism...
Hasta la vista, baby...
Anyways, in 11th of July,
Anyways, in 11th of July, there will be a music festival in support of Kobane in Berlin
There is this
There is this article:
I do not know about this website at all. However the Malcom X quote here, is spot on. Please read it as a note of caution for all well intended but misinformed comrades that somehow fall into believing state propaganda in hopes of achieving an objective standpoint of X (something... class/internationalism... whatever....). Ideological conviction is not bad in itself but it must be kept checked with concrete contents (with self-criticism). It is very ironic that those who basically call others of being blind followers, seems to be best players in being lost in their ideological convictions and supporting their arguments with state sources or totally unrelated historical comparisons. And unfortunately think what they are doing is making a demarcation between them (the destroyers of capitalism [including fictious anti-kurdish propaganda news and texts produced by IS and Turkey related media agencies] and others (class collaborationist crowd [ well basically anyone who thinks that Kurdish movement is formulating a rather interesting and a progressive proposal in its locality and anyone who does not approach everything from the perspective of immediate global revolution] )
Also: Turkish Human Right's Society's Commisison is in Kobane
(Well they are considered to be for kurds by Turkish state, but this is because as the human rights of Kurds are so violated by state this practically made the society a pro-kurdish one :D )
Hasakah: SAA/NDF continues to
Hasakah: SAA/NDF continues to dwindle before ISIS attacks and YPG claiming areas SAA/NDF abandons. As ISIS presses from Nashwah neighborhood into SAA-controlled city center, YPG has come around the south at the Abyad bridge to cut off ISIS supply route and trap them in Nashwah. Folks might also want to note the expansion of MFS and Sutoro into Christian neighborhoods formerly under SAA/NDF control.
Fighting continues near Ayn Issa. Burkan Al-Firat and YPG continue to repel ISIS attacks.
YPG/Burkan Al-Firat encircles Sarrin, which is regarded as key for eventually seizing the Tishrin dam to the south--currently the only crossing point on the Euphrates River for the YPG to go west towards Jarabulus and Manbij. Jordan Matson-a U.S. foreign fighter with the YPG-recently speaking in Sweden stated that the YPG strategy of heading towards Jarabulus border crossing was obvious.
ISIS has increased attacks on the PKK and Iraqi KRG Peshmerga who are defending Makhmur and Kirkuk. Makhmur has a large refugee camp made up of 15000 Kurdish refugees who left Turkey in 1994. They are seen as sympathetic to the PKK and a base of recruitment. ISIS briefly took Makhmur for 3 days in August 2014 before they were then expelled by the PKK and Peshmerga. PKK guerillas are in Sinjar, Rabee'a, Shekhan, Makhmour, Kirkuk, Jalawala and Khanqen.
The History of Makhmur Refugee Camp
The PKK Rumbles in Northern Iraq
After repelling ISIL, PKK fighters are the new heroes of Kurdistan
PKK forces impress in fight against Islamic State
“The PKK Camp”: A visit with PKK fighters at the Makhmour refugee camp
Good map of the Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq and ethnic/religious minority villages/towns:
Politically, PUK and Gorran remain united in proposing that the president of the KRG be elected by parlimentary vote (PUK+Gorran have a simple majority in parliament) rather than a general election. They are also firm on the position that Masoud Baranzi is not eligible for re-election.
As Iraq splinters, Kurds’ own unity put to test
The Monarchy of Iraqi Kurdistan
Barzani’s throne create political turmoil in Kurdistan
DEMOCRATS V. AUTHORITARIANS: KURDISTAN REGION AT THE CROSSROADS
FINANCIAL CRISIS SHUTS DOWN 6,000 PROJECTS IN KURDISTAN REGION
Barzani sees PKK threatening Kurdish unity
KRG tells PKK to vacate Qandil Mountains, abide by reconciliation
PKK rebels say they will not withdraw from Iraqi Kurdistan’s Qandil
Great Spirits and Mediocre Minds
Rojava is still under economic embargo by KRG. Jordan Matson mentioned 27 guntrucks which the KRG is not allowing to cross the border into Rojava. KRG suggested Peshmerga be sent to Rojava. KCK: We are Not Authorised to Decide on Syrian Kurdish Peshmerga Return (This is important in that the KCK is acknowledging that authority about what happens in Rojava is TEV-DEM's decision, not the KCK's decision.)
YPG fighter Jordan Matson Gothenburg-Sweden 2015-07-05 (pt 1)(pt 2)
Interview with Burkan Al-Firat spokesperson Server Dervis
Peoples in Girê Spî (Tel Abyad) will govern themselves(Kurdi)
(note the FSA and Rojava flags)
Gorran delegation in Rojava: 50 engineers from southern Kurdistan (KRG) will be sent to Kobane to help with rebuilding of the city ( Turkish )
Latest article from Dilar Dirik: Kurdish Women’s Radical Self-Defense: Armed and Political:
Nesrin Abdullah and Rangin of
Nesrin Abdullah and Rangin of the YPJ
The Women Combatants of Rojava: Interviews with commanders Abdullah and Rangin of the YPJ (Women's Defence Units), Socialist Project • E-Bulletin No. 1137, July 7, 2015
Hi Folks! It's great what
It's great what Nesrin Abdullah said about opposition to the state, revolutionary militancy, "creation of a new society", etc. But she as other politico-military cadres of organizations like PKK/PYD, YPG/YPJ are well trained to say one thing at one moment and exactly the contrary in another context and combining both with the same belief and eloquence.
E.g. what she stated at the Elysee "Tea Party" when she met President Hollande:
I bet they ask the U.S. State
I bet they ask the U.S. State Department for anti-tank weapons too.
They don't get them.
Also, your link is broken. (You and "Anti-War" seem to share a disregard for checking your URLs before posting. That's stronger than the connection between the PYD and the Khmer Rouge!)
Here is a link that has most of content you are referring to:
HRW: Syria: Kurdish Forces
HRW: Syria: Kurdish Forces Violating Child Soldier Ban
Hi Folks! Hey Flint you're
Hey Flint you're right (#154), the link I provided is indeed broken but it's surely because "Firat News Agency" removed the article not a long time ago. Some days ago, I mean this week, when searching on Google with keywords "nesrin abdullah firatajans pledge hollande", the link was still referred to (even if indeed it was already broken). But today not anymore!!! So what? Firat was too much ashamed to see "anti-state" and "anti-capitalist" Kurdish parties so close to capitalist powers like e.g. the state in France? Just a question of tactics? So what???
Fortunately pro-PKK/PYD propaganda stuffs are so much replicated on all the Kurdish national liberation websites that it's still possible to read the original Firat's story at least on two other blogs:
The problem is not so much that your pets didn't (yet) get any anti-tank weapons from the U.S. State Department... If they really didn't... I'm somehow very skeptical about as everybody knows how the U.S. and their allies of GCC did and I presume are still doing with other rebel groups today!!! BTW they surely have another agenda!!! But the problem is especially why (though they are so "anti-state" and "anti-capitalist" as many of their followers pretend they are!!!) they asked weapons (or anything else) to a state power!!!
See you later... Alligator!!!
In Hasakah, the Syrian Arab
In Hasakah, the Syrian Arab Army continued to lose territory in southern part of the city to fighting with the Islamic State. It also continued to cede territory in the northern part of the city to the YPG/YPJ.
The YPG/YPJ then performed a pincer maneuver heading coming from the east and west to cut off the Islamic State's supply lines--encircling them--effectively trapping the Islamic State forces in the city.
YPG reported taking the "Red Villas":
YPG claims Islamic State has used chemical weapons in Hasakah. Also in Tel Brak according to this New York Times article. Syrian Observatory for Human Rights "The Conflict Armament Research (CAR) group and Sahan Research said in a statement Friday that Daesh targeted Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga with a projectile filled with a chemical agent on June 21 or 22. The organizations also documented two such attacks against Kurdish fighters from the People’s Protection Units (YPG) in Syria’s northeastern Hasakeh province on June 28." (AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE)
In Sarrin, Islamic State counter-attacked north to break the YPG/YPJ's seige.
YPG has regained some lost territory in Sarrin's north:
Syria Status of Control map showng population centers, airbases and oil fields.
A very interesting Ask May Anything (AMA) on reddit with a verified PKK fighter active in Kobane, Cizre, Bakur (Turkey) and Bashur (Iraq):
(I altered the order of some of the question/answers to make it flow more easily)
Two battalions--Zaza & Jund al-Heremin (small groups of fighters numbering 50-70) have been "fired" and ordered to leave Kobane because of charges of robbery, unethical actions.
Jund al-Heremin was involved in a "grain racket" according to this 2013 article:
Coalition (USAF, etc..) has begun dropping this image on Shaddadi, Sarrin and Raqqa:
("Freedom will rise and shine")
Interview with YPG foreign fighters: Jordan Matson (US) and Jesper Soder (Sweden)
Rules & Procedures of the YPG(in English)
Dated but useful historical organization chart:
(The KNC-ENKS never really ruled Rojava from what I understand)
Black Rose Anarchist Federation (Kara Gül Anarşist Federasyonu) and Industrial Workers of the World (Dünya Endüstri İşçileri Birliği) from the U.S. visiting the Rojava Yardımlaşma ve Dayanışma Derneği (Rojava Assistance and Solidarity Association) discussing the importance of international solidarity
Rojava Yardımlaşma ve Dayanışma Derneği: Black Rose Anarchist Federation(Kara Gül Anarşist Federasyonu) ve Industrial Workers of the World (Dünya Endüstri İşçileri Birliği) üyeleri Derneğimize destek ziyaretinde bulundu. Amerikalı temsilcilere dernek yöneticileri tarafından uluslararası desteğin önemi vurgulanarak,uluslararası alanda yapılabilecek faaliyetler hakkında bilgi verildi
This Suruç attack is grim. On
This Suruç attack is grim. On the plus side, my Izmir comrade S (who was due to go to this, but cancelled at the last minute due to family health issue) tells me that both Kurrem and our Black Rose comrade have survived the blast. However apparently 10 from Izmir are amongst the dead and a further two from Izmir that S and Kurrem have had some contact with are amongst the injured in hospital.
Sosyalist Gençlik Dernekleri
Sosyalist Gençlik Dernekleri Federasyonunun (SGDF)
Socialist youths of Turkey going to Kobanê to help reconstruction
Eye-witness to Suruç massacre Speaks
Ocelot wrote: This Suruç
Thanks for the update Ocelot. Glad to hear that Kurrem and your friends are ok; as you say a tiny piece of goods news in what is just horrific overall.
Just back from the local
Just back from the local solidarity demonstration. This is all very ugly. I'll never understand how someone can do something like this. And yes, thank you Ocelot for the update.
Gruesome attack on innocent
Gruesome attack on innocent people. Terrible crime.
Black Rose Anarchist
Black Rose Anarchist Federation Statement on the Massacre in Suruc
Suruç Red Circle: Amara
Red Circle: Amara center
Blue Circles: Refugee camps
Quote: Arab and Turkmen
Kurds push back against charges of ethnic cleansing, Verda Ozer, July 20, 2015
(Verda Ozer is a regular columnist for the Turkish dailies Hurriyet and Hurriyet Daily News. She is also a non-residential fellow of the Atlantic Council, Marshall Memorial fellow of the German Marshall Fund and scholar for Istanbul Policy Center (IPC))
OUR SADNESS WILL BE OUR
OUR SADNESS WILL BE OUR ANGER, KOBANÊ WILL RECONSTRUCTURE, Devrimci Anarşist Faaliyet (DAF)
according to https://syndikalismus.wordpress.com/2015/07/21/selbstmordanschlag-in-pirsus-mit-dutzenden-toten-und-vielen-verletzten/ two anarchists are among the murdered comrades: Alper Sapan and Evrim Deniz Erol, both were 19 years old, a third young anarchist, Caner Delisu, was seriously injured
Quote: "CHP Vice Chairmen: We
CHP calls on gov’t to assume responsibility for Suruç attack, July 21, 2015, Today's Zaman
Turkey's CHP calls on Ankara to declare national mourning over Suruç attack, July 21, 2015, BGN News
Looks like CHP is increasingly trying to position itself as more sympathetic to the HDP than the AKP.
Flint wrote: Quote: "CHP’s
Or perhaps are worried about losing the support of leftist Alevis, traditionally one of their most loyal constituencies, to the HDP.
Note the source: Rojava and
Note the source:
Rojava and Catalonia: Linked Through History, ypgrojava.com, July 19, 2015.
ocelot wrote: Flint
As a correction to the above...
Last night we had a solidarity picket outside the Turkish embassy in Dublin (in solidarity with the victims of the Suruc massacre and calling on the Turkish state to end it's support for ISIS) and a Kurdish comrade was reading out the names of the victims and a brief line or two of their age, where they came from, what they were studying (most, not all, were students) etc. One of the women killed was apparently a CHP member from Istanbul iirc (haven't got details just yet). So rather than being mere political maneuvering, I think it we can take it that CHP's response had also an element of personal grievance.
EDIT: Apparently there was a
EDIT: Apparently there was a mother of a CHP Maltepe council member (Bahar Nazegül Boyraz). Below is a letter written by her daughter, saying she acted to help people in Kobane by joining sgdf trip and how dedicated she was to CHP. Still I am very doubtful whether her actions represent the real trend of CHP's political line. (as she was also not a CHP member -no mention of such thing in the letter)
I could not find mention of any killed CHP member in Turkish news. I am also very doubtful about such thing. I think there is a bit of misinformation going on there.
Also concerning CHP and its actions, (and in line with Ocelot's views I guess) well CHP -I think- does not really have a progressive political agenda, it is rather pushed to left by the rise of HDP in recent elections. For example HDP does not have enough parliament members to call for an emergency meeting of parliament. so HDP sent invitations (two times) to CHP to make a united call for emergency parliament meeting. Both were rejected by CHP. Now yesterday CHP made a call for an emergency parliament meeting all by itself (they have enough pms.) So CHP wants to look more progerssive than HDP and do not lose votes to it in future elections.
However I am skeptical about the real wish of CHP for a truly some sort of united leftist front to push back AKP and its neoliberal politics. As CHP still fails to understand the Kurdish nation. Its discourse is based on a fiction of a Turkish republic that was never united except the help of violence and social and economical inequalities. As CHP still avoids answering this questions it is "edgy" progressivism can come back as another form of anti-terrorism (which AKP is also very keen on, thus uniting AKP and CHP on some more abstract level against the Kurdish democratic autonomy project in the name of the Bigger "Turkish" national project).
About current anti-terrorism
About current anti-terrorism operations wave in Turkey: It is against IS, PKK DHKP-C and some other realitvely minor leftist groups. Today one person is killed (from DHKP-C a stalinist organisation) 251 people are arested. Most of whom are PKK member. So basically the Turkish State is using the IS attack to its advantage to further hurt the Kurdish freedom movement.
Also this piece about the lack of any confrontation between IS and Cops, and lack of any arested IS militants despite the "aims" of anti-terror operations.
Also about The Turkish attack on IS in Syrian territory. Prime Minister said: Our attack will not stop. We hit Is hard. We will target everyone that is a threat to us. We won't stop.
HDP on the other hand says these attacks are made to prevent Rojava and essentially against Kurds. AKP wishes to realize the its buffer zone dream in Syria to stop YPG/J.
Juan Cole's speculation that
Juan Cole's speculation that AKP's action against ISIS is because of fear of losing further ground to CHP and HDP in a snap election. No mention of the arrests of suspected PKK/YDG-H and DHKP-C members.
Lots of reports of Turkish
Lots of reports of Turkish jets strike pkk camps in Iraq: basyan, avaşin, zap, hakurk, amediye, kandil also reports about mahmour.
U.S. airforce bombing Al-Nusra.
PKK bases bombed by Turkey's
PKK bases bombed by Turkey's airforce:
The ceasefire in Turkey has
The ceasefire in Turkey has ended. It appears that Tayyip Erdoğan is not happy at all that hdp crossed the threshold and consider kurdish movement a threat to republic. There were also lile 200 new arrested with charges of pkk yesterday. Operations still continue. Hpg armed wing of kurdish movement in Turkey started killing and kidnapping police forces. It appears another war has started by dirty politicians who just want to protect their power and let poor people die for them. The future seems very uncertain. There is also thread of IS attacks on civiliabs as Turkey attacked IS targets in Syria. Previously idlamic government basically let them grow in Turkey as a counter measure to kurds and socialists. So basically they are sort of invisible for now. However we are not sure what will happen when they act.
Also I think I can explain
Also I think I can explain something. The places Turkey bomb are not directly guerilla places. However camps generally surrounded by villages and communities of civilian people. Where there is agriculture, civilians doing other jobs and also relatives of guerillas who come to visit their relatives etc... Hpg still did not give full report but in its text it said civilians were killed in bombing. This seems rrue as guerillas have a history of war witg turkry and they know how to be protected from bombing. In essence this bombing will definitely force hpg to retaliete.
Should I also start a Turkey
Should I also start a Turkey news section? The recent developments although they are related to Rojava, with the help of AKP's war politics increasingly become related to Turkey and civil war in it.
Anyway, yesterday SGDF's peaceful event for its martyries is brutally repressed by Turkish state.
Also Turkish major did not allow "The Big Peace March" that was planned for Sunday (26th July) in İstanbul. The organisation committee is currently discussing this development.
The Turkish army is now
The Turkish army is now attacking YPG from the border. This night YPG was attacked near Kobane and Girê Spi (http://tr.hawarnews.com/ypg-turk-orudusu-ypg-ve-oso-mevzilerini-bombaliyor/)
Good idea. Go ahead!
YPG's statement: Statement
Statement Regarding Attacks by Turkish Army Against YPG and FSA Positions Near Kobani
KOBANI, Rojava (July 26, 2015) - At 4:30 July 24 in western Kobani, the Turkish Army shelled the People’s Defense Units and the Free Syria Army’s positions in the village of Zormikhar in front of the terrorist-occupied town Jarabulus – using heavy tank fire. In this attack four fighters of the FSA and several local villagers were injured.
Today at 22:00, the Turkish army again shelled the same village with 7 tank rounds.
At 23:00, one of our vehicles came under heavy fire from the Turkish military east of Kobani (west of Tel Abyad) in the village of Til Findire.
Instead of targeting IS terrorists’ occupied positions, Turkish forces attack our defenders positions. This is not the right attitude. We urge Turkish leadership to halt this aggression and to follow international guidelines. We are telling the Turkish Army to stop shooting at our fighters and their positions.
General Command People’s Defense Units (YPG)
Kobani Command - July 26, 2015
A short explanation of recent
A short explanation of recent advances of YPG/J and suicide bombings of IS against Rojava
Even the capitalist media in
Even the capitalist media in the UK is quoting commentators saying that the Turkish action with support from the USA government, is effectively using limited, if real, action against ISIS primarily as cover for action against the PKK and it's supporters (though we assume not other Kurdish factions) both within Turkey and in Syria and Iraq which indicates the likely further spread and intensification of the militarised conflict. The specific attacks on the YPG have not been reported here yet and it is unclear if this may give rise to further tensions with other European, including NATO allies of the USA.
In news, there seems to be an
In news, there seems to be an agreement in coalition (including Turkey and USA) to form an anti-IS corridor, which I think includes taking Cerablus, which was still under siege by YPG/J. It is like a 40 km wide corridor along the border of Turkey, which will be taken by military action from IS and will later be given to FSA. This agreement includes Turkish troops entering Syria.This indicates USA turned to support one of its best allies in the region Turkey, instead of the Kurds who want to establish a system of their own. There is a certain clash of interests between USA and Turkey on the one side and PYD on the other side (which mentioned its plans to unite the cantons.)
However it is not very certain how will this new game will be played, and whether Kurdish freedom movement has any good chance to respond to it by preserving its principles and projects for people's democracy first in Kurdistan and later in Middle East.
Spikymike wrote: Even the
same with many bourgeois media outlets in German-speaking countries which are traditionally not particularly friendly towards the PKK
This is a bit old but I just
This is a bit old but I just spotted this on, it is written quite nice:
In Memory of Suphi Nejat Agirnasli
On 5 October 2014, we lost our friend, comrade, and colleague, the sociologist, translator, writer, and revolutionary Suphi Nejat Ağırnaslı while he was fighting ... in Kobane. Condolences to all, and may he rest in peace.
On his MLKP membership: It is a bit complex. He was orginally member of ESP, a group close ot MLKP, later he quit that group formed his own ideas and generated original writings (see the text, in which he was into trying to develop a local discourse for communism [menkıbe] and his writings were not excluding anarchist and especially the anarchist syndicalist tradition [his text on information workers]) It appears he joined MLKP not directly because of its ideology but more like because it was the easiest way for him to go to Kobane and be useful in the war [My speculations: he possibly did not know some people there, he did not know Kurdish etc...] There was even a some problems between ESP and his family about who should make his funeral and how. So I advise you to read his story as you would read a biography of a comrade, and try to not stuck with MLKP so much to understand his own importance.
Sarrin liberated by YPG/YPJ
Sarrin liberated by YPG/YPJ and Burkan-Al-Firat (FSA)
ISIS withrdaws from Hasakah. Over the course of the battle, SAA/NDF ceded much territory to YPG/YPJ/MFS/Al-Senadid.
One important detail in regards to the TEV-DEM administration of justice and the involvement of Syriac Christian allies with the YPG is the outcome of the recent trial in regards to the murder of Khabour Guards Chief Dawud Jendo. His murderers were YPG. YPG turned Jendo's murderers over to the civil court of the Cizire Canton, which found them guilty and sentenced 20 years prison for the 2 killers, 4 years and 1 year for the 2 others.
The floor is open for debate about how a libertarian communist society would deal with such a situation.
The Syriac Military Union/Syriac Union Party/Syriac National Council of Syria/European Syriac Union issued a statement against Turkish intervention in Syria and stating they would defend themselves. This isn't all surprising, but some disapora Assyrian groups made claims that the Jendo murder was weakening the relationship between Syriacs and the PYD/YPG. If you look at the above map of Hasakah, the Syriac MFS had their territorial responsibility increased in the city (those are likely Christian neighborhoods). It is a strong statement in the Syriac support of TEV-DEM.
And because I don't honor the arbitrary border of Rojava News/Turkey News--AKA-the kurremkarmerruk-nokta line...
Some German politicians are threatening to withdraw their Patriot missles from Turkey.
There are a lot of stories in the press sympathetic to the PKK in regards to Turkey's bombings in Qandil and political suppression in Turkey:
Turkey conflict with Kurds: Was approving air strikes against the PKK America's worst error in the Middle East since the Iraq War?
Bombing the PKK: It’s the (domestic) politics, stupid!
Turkey sends in jets as Syria’s agony spills over every border, where in The Guardian quotes;
Never fear, Fox News is still run by idiots.
Here is a long list of links pertaining to recent events involving Turkey and the PKK.
I was thinking nokta and I
I was thinking nokta and I were practicing democratic autonomy of the news, well next time I will listen to the people (flint) more and organize news according to the people's self-rule :P
Interesting Poll Results from
Interesting Poll Results from CNN Turkey on Turkey's involvement in Syria. even has opinion broken down by political party.
U.S.: No Safe Zone in Syria
U.S.: No Safe Zone in Syria
How War Destroyed Syria's
How War Destroyed Syria's Economy in Four Charts, Bloomberg, July 29, 2015
Syrian Kurds refine oil for themselves for the first time, Maher Al-Mounnes, AFP, July 30, 2015
"If the route to the refineries in Homs and Banias reopens"
That's unlikely to occur as long as ISIS exists. There is a lot of ISIS between Hasakah and Homs. TEV-DEM would need Islamic State out of the way. The Oil Line goes through Deir ez-Zor and the Natural Gas line through ar-Raqqah.
Strategically, now that YPG controls the southern side of Hasakah city, it will logically push ISIS further south. YPG may try to push another 60 kilometers down Route 7 to Al-Shaddadah and the nearby Jbeysa oil field--"one of country's largest". This would reduce the threat of attack from ISIS to the population center in Hasakah, remove some of ISIS revenue from oil sales, and secure that oil for Rojava. The May-June 2015 ISIS offensive against Hasakah city began in Al-Shaddadah.
Speculation that this would be an important part of weakening ISIS:
Operation Terminal Spirit: A Ground Force Plan to Reduce ISIS, von Clausewitz' wit, October 1, 2014
The defunct Iraq-Syria pipeline isn't an option, even with repair as it comes in near the Akkas oil field south of Al Qa'iam, which is southeast of Deir ez-Zor along the Euphrates. This is all ISIS held territory.
It may actually be easier for Cizire Canton/Hasakah to send their oil northeast towards Iraq and the Semalka border crossing, currently controlled by the KRG, There was a pontoon bridge which allowed refugees to cross. The KDP has refused to reassemble the bridge and keeps the border crossing closed to regular traffic and trade...
That pipeline in Iraq/KRG can eventually lead to Ceyhan in Turkey. That would be the same line that goes from Kirkuk to Ceyhan.
The Kirkuk-Ceyhan pipeline is prone to sabotage and passes by ISIS-held Mosul. But northwest of Mosul, KRG connected the pipeline to Taq Taq and Tawke fields through h Khurmal and Dahuk for export to Ceyhan.
Folks will also notice that some of the PKK camps bombed by Turkey recently are in Northern Iraq/KRG; not far from the Kirkuk-Ceyhan's line before it crosses into Turkey. The PKK bombed the Kirkuk-Ceyhan pipeline on 7/29/2015 in the Sirnak province (northeast of Cizire canton) and/or the pipeline in Agri. If Turkey wants oil from KRG, then they need to make a deal with or neutralize the PKK.
If Cizire Canton wants to sell oil, it has to do so by either working out a political deal with KRG and/or Turkey; or it has to eliminate ISIS from ar-Raqqah, Deir ez-Zor and the rest of the Euphrates river.
Quote: Economic development
Communal Economy Grows In Rojava Despite War, Rojava Report, July 31, 2015
Quote: All work in the
So that is a really exciting claim. I'm interested in hearing more about this if anyone comes across it. Thanks for the link Flint.
This has been claimed before, but Efrin seems to be expanding its productive capacity on that model, and when it expands, it seems to be largely collective.
A Small Key Can Open A Large Door: The Rojava Revolution
Btw, this link you shared is
Btw, this link you shared is from Ozgur Gundem, which quite frequently publishes short news on the current state of cooperatives and other social economic initiatives. I can actually translate them if people are interested. To be honest though most of them announcements of opening of new communes or cooperatives, and others are sort of agitation on how well they are doing.
YPG has begun to move south
YPG has begun to move south towards Al-Shaddadah
Regiment 121 is a former artillery base
The U.S. train and equip program for "moderate" Syrian who would pledge to fight ISIS (but not Assad) was supposed to find 5,000 recruits. it only graduated 60. Called Division 30, the U.S. still sent that 60 into Syria, through the A'zaz border crossing. Jabhat al-Nusra (al-Qaeda in Syria) quickly set upon them, kidnapped the leader of Division 30, 5 were killed, 18 wounded. The survivors fled to YPG-controlled Afrin.Subsequently, US Airforce bombed al-Nusra.
There have been some other minor skirmishes between YPG and al-Nusra with some attacks supposedly being enabled from Turkey allowing al-Nusra through the border.. Al-Nusra may have expanded its position in A'zaz from partial to total control. The YPG commander in Afrin previously volunteered to take over security of A'zaz from the Free Syrian Army to defend it from Jihadist groups. The US bombed al-Nusra positions near A'zaz.
Jacobin has a good piece on
Jacobin has a good piece on Turkey's campaign against the PKK/YPG, and the historical context around it - Erdogan's Bloody Gambit
Life under two masters in
Life under two masters in Syria's Hasakeh, Maher Al Mounes, August 4, 2015.
Article describes the dual power situation between TEV-DEM and the Syrian Arab Republic. This may have changed or is in the process of changing in Hasakah as the Syrian Arab Army and National Defense Forces ceded much of the city to the YPG/YPJ/MFS/Al-Senadid during the most recent ISIS attack on the city.
Conscription law being applied to Arabs, not only Kurds and Syriacs:
Syrian Arab Army also looking for conscripts:
The term of conscription in HXP (Rojava) is 6 months, in the Syrian Arab Army (SAR) it is 18-21 months.(Best description of conscription difference in Engilsh that I've found.)
Freedom of movement between Hasakah and Qamishli:
Syrian State annual tax, TEV-DEM areas engaged in tax resistance to the Syrian State, TEV-DEM enforcing price controls:
Monthly government taxes to the Syrian state, weekly fee to TEV-DEM for street cleaning:
Map of recent
Map of recent incidents:
Our Perspectives and Tasks on
Our Perspectives and Tasks on the Revolution in Rojava (BRRN)
ANF: Rûdaw and Orient TV’s
ANF: Rûdaw and Orient TV’s work permit cancelled in Cizîr Canton
Quote: The administration
This is interesting - based on something Flint sent me, my understanding was that Rûdaw is financed by the KDP and the Barzani family. Not anti-Kurdish, but controlled by capitalist interests in Iraqi Kurdistan.
So is this evidence of rising tensions between the YPG and Peshmerga? Or in this case does the "war of position" not have much to do with the "war of maneuver"?
Fnordie wrote: This is
It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with tensions between YPG and KDP Peshmerga (and the YPG and HPG are on good terms with the PUK Pesh).
TEV-DEM shouldn't have done this because Rudaw will talk and talk about it and HRW will flag it as media censorship.
Rudaw is notorious for lying, often taking a position a little more extremely pro-KDP than the KDP is willing to take.
Rudaw was established and fully sponsored by Nechervan Barzani, KDP senior leader and KRG Prime Minister. http://www.milletpress.com/english/en_report/post_detail.php?id=15
Rudaw on their work permits being cancelled: Rudaw blasts PYD ban in Rojava as like 'North Korea'
Meanwhile, in KRG, here is how press freedom is working:
HRW on media freedom in KRG: http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/10/29/iraqi-kurdistan-journalists-under-threat
Media regulation in KRG: http://kurdistantribune.com/2015/regulating-the-media-in-kurdistan-mission-impossible-or-ignorable/
KRG: free press and democracy http://kurdistantribune.com/2014/kurdish-independence-dream-might-turn-against-free-press-democracy/
Most believe that Barzani had Sardasht Osman assassinated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardasht_Osman
In Turkey, all these sources, both Rudaw and pro-YPG sources are banned. Rudaw reporting on Turkey banning Twitter after the Suruc bombing, Turkey also had Facebook block Rudaw's Facebook because they had shown pictures of the house of Abdullah Ocalan. Turkey censored twitter and other websites during the Kobani seige and Turkey had Roj TV shutdown in Europe.
Prohibiting the press is a typical tactic by Turkey, KRG and now, unfortunately, TEV-DEM/Rojava.
Even if Rudaw is a pack of bourgeois liars.
Flint wrote: Rudaw blasts PYD
Never trust anyone who refers to to themself in the third person
Fnordie wrote: Flint
Assyrian-Syriac forces in Hasakah province/Cizire Canton:
Vice News Dispatch from the Battle of Hasakah
KCK senior figure calls on Turkey to return to the negotiation table
PKK calls on US to be part of Kurdish peace process
Interview With Burkan al-Firat Commander: We Are Fighting To Rebuild A Democratic And Inclusive Revolution
Who is to Blame for Shingal's Fall (Names a number of KDP Peshmerga commanders.)
Posting this because it
Posting this because it mentions collaboration between the YPG and Jaysh al-Thuwar.
"after recent jihadis' attacks on the canton #HXP self defence training centre opened in Kimar village "
HXP is the static infantry that includes conscripts--6 months of military service
Jabhat Akrad and Kata'eb Shams ash-Shamal are both part of Burkan al-Furat. Jabhat Akrad is largely seen as a group setup by the PYD to act within the FSA. We may be seeing Jaysh al-Thuwar taking on a role like Burkan al-Furat; particularly if Burkan al-Furat/YPG cross the Euphrates at the Tishrin dam, and if the YPG in Afrin moves from a defensive to an offensive posture against al-Nusra and ISIS.
Supposedly, Turkey handed over 6 injured YPG fighters who were being treated in Turkish hospitals to al-Nusra
Take this with a grain of
Take this with a grain of salt as I got this news from a Daesh supporter, claims of a strike in Qamishli in Cizire canton among Tax drivers against a rise in fuel prices. One thing that has been report a lot is that TEV-DEM does set the price of fuel. Also in indicates that there is still a market economy among taxi drivers. Also indication that there is a "tarriff"/tax on taxis.
Taxi drivers in Qamishli in Hasaka on strike in protest against the raise the price of fuel
Rojava Electricity Project:
Crowdfunding the electiricity of Cizre Canton
The organization behind this is the Malmö chapter of the socialist group Allt åt alla.
Article in the New York
Article in the New York Times: Why Turkey Is Fighting the
Kurds Who Are Fighting ISIS, SARAH ALMUKHTAR and TIM WALLACE AUG. 12, 2015
YPG/YPJ gains since May 2015
Proposed "safe zone"
Turkish air strikes (July 24 to August 3, 2015) and conflict violence in Kurdish majority areas (since March 2013)
A collection of links
A collection of links regarding Noam Chomsky's opinions on Rojava, the PKK, KRG, Kurds and Turkey.
Restart the Peace Process in Turkey: No to Turkey’s military intervention in Syria – Defend Rojava!, July 27, 2015
He's opposed to a military intervention by Turkey in Syria because "would greatly harm the people of Rojava who are fighting against the evil forces of ISIS", May 7, 2015
Noam Chomsky has participated in protests in Turkey against the repression of Kurds, including civil disobedience in Istanbul.
Noam Chomsky on the PKK, Kurdistan and Turkey/US/Israel relations, Mar 31, 2015
Noam Chomsky: Iraqi Kurdistan’s very fragile system cannot survive, February 18, 2015
URGENT CALL FOR ACTION: Global Rally against ISIS – for Kobanê – for Humanity!, October, 21, 2014
Noam Chomsky asks UN to save Kobanê, blames Turkey bombardment on PKK, October 15, 2014
Noam Chomsky is a signator to the Freedom for Abdullah Öcalan campaign
Dark Clouds Loom: In the Shadow of the First World War, Noam Chomsky Discusses ISIS, Ukraine, and Gaza, October 16, 2014
Statement: Rojava must not fall: Support Kurdish democratic autonomy against ISIS, July 17, 2014
Appeal: Support a Democratic Experiment, March 2014
Noam Chomsky: "On the Kurds", July, 2013
Noam Chomsky Discusses Turkey with David Barsamian
Chomsky On The Prospect of Kurdish Independence, February 15, 2011
Noam Chomsky urges Turkey to pursue Kurdish peace, January 18, 2013
, Chomsky Publisher Cleared in Turkey, February 13, 2002
Prospects for Peace in the Middle East, March 4, 2001
Yes Vice, I know, but this
Yes Vice, I know, but this interview with an returned german leftist who fought with the YPG includes some interesting bits: „Ich war bereit, dort zu sterben“ – Ein deutscher Linker im Kampf gegen den Islamischen Staat ("I was ready to die there - a german leftist in the fight against the Islamic State"). I've quickly translated a few interesting parts:
By the way I don't know if it
By the way I don't know if it is the same reporter from vice news. but two people from vice is detained 2 days ago in Diyarbakır while trying to report on declarations of autonomy. They are still in prison as far as I know.
Different reporters, the
Different reporters, the interview above is from Vice Germany.
Yeah different. anyway now
Yeah different. anyway now they are arested on charges supporting both IS and PKK at the same time by the way, they will wait for their trial to be released at least now. Of course if the judge decides this charge is bullshit. If not they will be sentenced for "involvement in terrorist activities, despite not being themselves members of terrorist organisation".
This is from an Armenian newspaper published in Turkey (it is one of few such papers) It is in my opinion very good newspaper (but not an anarchist/socialist one)
Anyway it reports:
Christians in Rojava are not happy with current PYD
The signed christian organisations sent a letter to PYD to demand these:
1) The law about "abandoned migrant property"should be abolished. It is used against minorities who are escaped due to war. but now with this law government is taking them from the people. this contradicts one of the most basic human rights; property.
2) Nobody in any case could be considered a "traitor, just because they left their home.
3) The policy of "redistribution of immigrant properties" is actually a theft of people's property in the name of helping the poor.
4) Basically these policies will prevent from those christians who escaped to come back.
5) As many of the christians now declaring they will not sell their properties, is lawful internationally. Government should stop saying this is illegal.
Apart from this property issues, Christians also criticise forced conscription, taxes and intervention into the courses of christian schools.
There is also this group
There is also this group fighting in Rojava btw:
Libertarian International Brigades
Libertarian, anarchist and non-authoritarian revolutionaries fighting in Middle East
USA said they won't no longer
USA said they won't no longer give any weapons to YPG. They understand the anxieties of Turkey. They will only give weapons to moderate islamist arabs.
YPG is still advancing. The
YPG is still advancing. The latest report says YPG took control of 80 percent of the city (or landscape) of El-Embar.
YPG also said last week like 3 days Turkish forces attacked from Turkish side to cities and guard stations YPG controls. YPG condemned and said these hurt civilians but did nothing about it.
kurremkarmerruk wrote: USA
Warren knows very well where the weapons/ammunition given to the Syrian Arab Coalition of the Syrian Democratic Forces ends up.
U.S. eyes more arms for Syria rebels after latest advance, Wed Nov 4, 2015 6:34pm EST
The al-Houl offensive is lead by the YPG. MFS and al-Sendadid are also involved, but they are tightly allied with YPG these days.
kurremkarmerruk wrote: Apart
I first heard about this list from probably the same article in English on AINA Assyrians, Armenians in Syria Protest Kurdish Confiscation of Property
You'll note that the letter that is signed on by organizations is more reserved in its claims than the article that leads AINA. AINA seems heavily influenced by David William Lazar (or DWL is influenced heavily by AINA). Lazar is dogmatically anti-Kurdish and anti-PYD to the extent that he basically just lies about things. He (and AINA) are also supportive of the Assad Regime.
The Kobanê Agricultural Council has decided to redistribute more than 10.000 hectares. Now that shouldn't impact Christian/Syriac/Chaldean/Armenian communities very much because there are few of those in Kobane canton. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Jazeera canton was also planning to engage in land redistribution. From the beginning of the revolution, TEV-DEM declared the abandoned government and bourgeois property as part of the commons and let people work it either individually or as part of cooperatives.
I've been meaning to post on the new PYD curricula for awhile. I've gone line by line through the longest anti-PYD articles and wrote an analysis. The short version is that TEV-DEM printed some schoolbooks in Kurdish, trained teachers on it, and encourages primary (elementary) education in mother tongue (they also push mother tongue education in Turkey). The Regime has responded by withdrawing the salaries of teachers teaching the new curricula (that is, teaching in Kurdish). So the Regime effectively fired those teachers and has threatened to shut schools down. In Afrin Canton, in addition to training teachers for the Kurdish curricula, they also prepared 100 teachers to teach in Arabic (Afrin has 1625 teachers for 306 schools). Now, that might be the right amount for Arabic mother tongue speakers plus other folks who want Arabic, because Afrin is super-majority Kurdish. Hasakah, isn't super-majority Kurdish. Also, I'd be surprised if in Hasakah TEV-DEM was forcing Syriacs to not get education in Syriac, etc...
What seems to have happened at the private Christian schools is that TEV-DEM offered the new materials particularly for the Kurdish children who were enrolled in the private schools. The private Christian schools refused to use those materials. Further, they then expelled the Kurdish students. There hasn't been a claim that TEV-DEM threatened to shut down the private schools at all... only the Regime has threatened to shut down schools for teaching in Kurdish.
Read the articles from SyriaDirect and ArabWeekly that aren't friendly to Kurdish mother tongue education, and you'll see what I'm saying.
Its interesting to note that TEV-DEM still tolerates private schools, and Kurdish attendance in private schools.
One funny thing is that the KDPS even had a protest against PYD/TEV-DEM for making more Kurdish language education possible. It seems KDPS prefers Arabic. The protests about curriculum have been on the small side.
Another issue brought by AINA is the Amal (Hope) Syriac Orthodox School being used by the YPG. AINA is claiming the YPG just took the school and thats it. That's not how it happened. The SAA/NDF took the school and used it as a military position. After the battle of Hasakah this past July-August 2015, the YPG took the school when the SAA/NDF abandoned it and used it for pretty much the same military purpose. After the battle, the YPG and SAA/NDF even negotiated over it and it was agreed to stay with the YPG. Its actual position is on the edge of regime controlled central Hasakah and YPG controlled territories. Without the YPG intervention in the battle this summer, central Hasakah could have been very well overrun by Daesh. So the talk that its in a safe area isn't particularly true.
Now, its unfortunate that schools get used as military structures in wars, but so do prisons, cement plants, any tall building. It seems that this fall, TEV-DEM has really been pushing to get the school system working well. I've marked the location of the Amal school on this map
If military contribution is any indicator of support, the largest Christian militia in Hasakah is the MFS. Its about 10 times the size of the Gozarto Protection Forces (the GPF is loyal to the regime and was recently flown by Russian aircraft to fight Daesh in Sadad, Homs). There are also other Christians in the HXP (which includes conscripts) and the YPG. The SUP is the dominant Syriac party in Hasakah and its been part of TEV-DEM since the beginning. You'll note that they haven't signed this document, nor has the European Syriac Union.
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch which have been critical of a minority of YPG actions in regards to certain Arab and Turkemen villages did not criticize the YPG in regards to Christians at all.
"It's worth mentioning that nearly 35% of all real estate in the area is owned by Christians."
Its also worth mentioning that Christians do not make up 35% of the population of Hasakah. Further that it is probably only a minority of Christians that own much of that land.
The YPG is probably treating Christians better than any other armed faction in the Syrian civil war, and that is both part of their ideology and related to their close military alliance with the MFS (SUP).
If TEV-DEM is moving forward with land reform, putting more land into the commons, and expanding beyond just taking government farms and now also redistributing absentee landlord farms... that indicates revolutionary progress. I'd like to hear a lot more details about TEV-DEM's land reforms, but I don't think I trust the information coming from AINA and related sources about it.
Yeah Flint I guess you
Yeah Flint I guess you reflected on the real motives of this contra-land and property distribution news in name of christian minority very well. I hope PYD can do it according to its declared principles of democratic autonomy and its policies of cooperativisation for the benefit of the poor (whatever their ethnical background is.)
Also about your Reddit. The article you refuted point by point looks really stupid. The claim that Kurdish population does not sent their children to kurdish schools is like a joke. I know from Turkey this is a huge demand. Kurdish movement makes one-week of school boycott each year at the start of the educational year. That is so powerful in the kurdish cities that schools do not work in practice (Though this does not get covered in national press). I think this issue is one of the issues that local population (irrespective of their class background support) I can assume the willingness towards education in mother tongue is much more higher under Rojava self-government.
Quote: AINA is not a reliable
reddit.com/r/assyria We Need Subreddit Guidelines, abg123rocks, moderator of r/assyria, October 21, 2015
YPG spokesman Redur
YPG spokesman Redur Khalil:
“Mr. Muslim commented on a number of military matters he is not familiar with.”
The original statement can be seen here
About repression of armenians
About repression of armenians and other christians: PYD recently made a press release that is not the case.
Moreover there is now this news reporting the opinions of a Tev-dem official and an armenian saying that we can live and grow our children in our mothertongue: http://www.imctv.com.tr/rojavali-ermeniler-kimse-malimiza-el-koymadi-kendi-dilimizde-de-egitim-goruyoruz/
Not exactly news but more
Not exactly news but more stuff on Amnesty international
Oh well, I never trusted these NGOs anyways.
Aside from the supposed
Aside from the supposed reporting bias and the fact that she's Arab, is there any indication (background, political statements) that Fakih is an "Arab nationalist"?
found on https://www.facebook.com/KurdischeNachrichtenCom/?fref=nf
Any thoughts on this?
Any thoughts on this?
How to understand the
How to understand the following story??? Especially what Bashar says about PYD...
Meh. Really? What Bashar
Meh. Really? What Bashar says?
I mean, I'm not clear who these many other Syrians are that Bashar thinks are spontaneously rising up to support the SAA and regime affiliate forces (incl. Hezbollah & IRGC). But the proposition that the external arms and training to the SDF (including YPG/J and Jabhat al Akrad, Sutoro, Al-Sanadid) are being "mainly" provided by the Syrian army, rather than the US, seems pretty unlikely. SAA haven't exactly got lots of spare weapons and trainging resources to spare on forces other than those reliably under their command, it would seem.
Anyway, if by chance, all the serious observers of the conflict were wrong and Assad was actuall telling the truth, instead of talking waffle (as is more normal) would that mean that the "Kurds" were now tools of Russian rather than American imperialism? Or maybe both? (Now there's a conspiracy theory I'd like to see...)
The primary supplier of all
The primary supplier of all rebels including Daesh and the Free Syrian Army in Syria has been the Syrian Arab Army. The primarily supplier of Daesh in Iraq has been the Iraqi army. The primary supplier of the Peshmerga in Iraq has been through Baghdad.
Its materially true in terms that many weapons of the SAA have ended up in the hands of the YPG. Some of those weapons came directly from seizing them from the regime, others come through purchasing them from intermediaries, others come as war spoils from defeating Daesh, etc... Its also true that many Kurds in Syria have been trained by the SAA when they were conscripts.
In Afrin, the YPG even manged to get a few old tanks from the regime. There are a few others they took from Daesh. They've even gotten some Humvees from Daesh.
The biggest things acquired from the regime, sometimes second hand from the Daesh, is the oil fields, the state-owned agricultural land, the Tishrin dam, the public education sector in Qamislo, Hasakah and Afrin.
So far, the largest amount of ammunition directly supplied to the YPG may have been a few weapons drops (primarily light weapons and ammunition) from the U.S. to the Arab forces allied with the YPG in the Syrian Democratic Forces. Opinion is much of that very limited supply went to the YPG. Before that, a small amount of ammunition was air dropped to the YPG towards the end of the siege of Kobane. Also, towards the end of the siege of Kobane KRG peshmerga (about 200 of them) arrived with heavy weapons, they have since left (and took their weapons with them). The YPG haven't been supplied with any heavy weapons such as the CIA TOW missile program.
That is that the Free Syrian Army that Guerre de Classe was so enthusiastic about at the start of this conflict has received far more U.S. made weapons either directly from the CIA or through a proxy like Jordan, Turkey or Saudi Arabia
The U.S. also recently supplied a lot of new kit to the New Syrian Army. They seem quite proud of the M-16s
The YPG is still struggling with their old Kalashnikovs and captured Dushka.
The Assad regime hasn't been even willing to release the artillery from the Hasakah artillery base to the YPG. SAA/NDF can't move outside of the YPG/SDF areas. The YPG/SDF have advanced the frontline in eastern Syria to Ash-Shaddadi. The only utility that artillery base in Hassakah now has would be in threatening the YPG in Hasakah city. One day, the YPG may still come to possess that base and its artillery. They might take it through encouraging desertion of the SAA, through diplomacy or through force of arms. When they do get hold of that artillery, folks shouldn't see it as being allied with Assad so much as forcing the regime to make yet another concession of territory and equipment to TEV-DEM/PYD/YPG/SDF.
Assad has said a lot of things to try and gain support of the YPG. He's said he's open to autonomy, etc... TEV-DEM and the PYD have both said that they see no place for Assad in a democratic future. They have also said they are open to a political/diplomatic solution to the Syrian Civil War. SDF is growing and part of that growth is taking in some Free Syrian Army groups.
It is true that the YPG/SDF do not have major clashes. Until very recently, Assad also wasn't shelling YPG held ares. Allegedly, that changed about a week ago.. There are also occasional skirmishes between the YPG and the NDF (the militia organized to support the SAA). What usually happens is the NDF picks a fight, the YPG returns fire, takes a few checkpoints or neighborhoods--then there is a ceasefire negotiated.
This may well all change in the future when the SDF frontlines are closer to the bulk of the SAA frontlines as the YPG/SDF secures northern Syria and pushes toward al-Bab and Aleppo. Or maybe that'll be the end of the fighting and the regime, the SDF and the Southern Front come up with a diplomatic solution.
Many of the folks in the PYD and TEV-DEM have direct experience with imprisonment and torture by the regime, after both the 2004 Qamislo uprising and also the general authoritarian nature of the state. That's true for Salih Muslim. Its also true for Rojîn Remo, Women’s Representative on the MSD and also on the 9-member Coordination Committee of the MSD.
I do wonder what the revolutionary communist position is on whether or not the YPG should be armed and where those arms could come from. If not the YPG feel free to abstract the question of armament to any future or past revolutionary group that find itself in a war.
ocelot wrote: I mean, I'm not
He may be speaking of the NDF. He might be speaking of groups like Syrian Resistance. He might be talking about different Arab tribal groups or Druze militia like Jaysh al-Muwahhideen. Recently, the SAA has stopped conscripting Druze if they serve in a local Druze militia; which may also be a response to several Druze towns publicly stating they will not accept conscription into the SAA anymore. He might be talking about Syriac or Christian militias like Sootoro, Khabour Guards and the Gozarto Protection Force (that the Syrian airforce--maybe even the Russian airforce, flew across the country to defend some Christian villages in the west.)
Some of the NDF in Hasakah are literally locals in street clothes wearing flip fops armed with old Kalashnikovs. In Hasakah, some locals see joining the NDF as a way to OPPOSE the YPG.
The YPG has had many opportunities to ally with with the SAA. It would have been helpful to them in terms of arms and it may have even given them more local control in Hasakah and Qamislo. It hasn't done that for political reasons. One of the least of which is the paltry foreign aid it has received from anti-Assad western states. It also hasn't allied with the SAA, even though it could mean Russian arms.
For those who want hard copy
For those who want hard copy to read and distribute.
THE EXPERIMENT OF WEST KURDISTAN
US ground troops working in
US ground troops working in Rojava with SDF
Turkey, the Kurds and
Turkey, the Kurds and Syria
At 41:20 roughly guy starts asking about Rojava in a positive light. A series of others criticise him and the speaker also disagrees in his summing up towards the end of the video. Wondered if anybody here would like to comment on it or in general regarding the talk on Turkey?
The SWP not my usual
The SWP not my usual preferred source of information and opinion in this area but I did give it a quick listen. The speaker is probably right about the Gulen movement's influence and role both previously and in terms of the attempted coup as well as some other specific points about the subsequent policy of the Turkish government and it's PKK and HDP opponents in relation to the Kurdish 'movement' and specifically the rise of the PKK inspired mini-state in Syria.The discussion to some extent illustrates the confusions of these Leftists aspirations to 'leadership' when it come to their lopsided 'anti-imperialism' and support for the various often conflicting national liberation movements. It's noticeable as well that for an organisation that claims to be in the vanguard of working class struggle there is a distinct absence of any class analysis in relation to the Kurdish populations dispersed across the Turkish-Syria-Iraq-Iran axis of states. This post is perhaps more relevant still to the other 'Turkey News' thread and relates also to some comments I added to the very end of this earlier thread:
Perhaps proletarian could explain their own views about the value of their posting this video?
Washington's main Syrian ally
Washington's main Syrian ally in the fight against Islamic State says the U.S. military will remain in northern Syria for decades after the jihadists are defeated, predicting enduring ties with the Kurdish-dominated region,
Turkish state on the verge of
Turkish state on the verge of militarily attacking USA supported Kurdish forces both directly and via Syrian proxies amidst USA attempt to secure its diminished place in the carve-up of influence in the region otherwise at odds with it's Turkish NATO ally. Has Turkey assumed too much that the USA would abandon it's Syrian Kurdish allies as soon as ISIS appeared to be defeated?
So whilst this Forum is still
So whilst this Forum is still retained thought this useful contribution should be listed here as well:
Anyone have any takes on the
Anyone have any takes on the US withdrawal, escalated threats from Erdogan, etc? The whole situation seems pretty grim all round.
Not much but a few things
Not much but a few things came up around it:
It coincides with Turkey and the US agreeing a $3.5b Patriot missile sale. That could be a massive coincidence or it could explain the 'why' for the withdrawal. A few different sources reporting this, but Bloomberg had some commentary where they reckoned Assad, Iran, and Russia might still be a deterant to a full Turkish annexation of Rojava. They also reckon the US deal with Turkey could mean cancellation of arms deals between Turkey and Russia.
This idea that the US should stay in Rojava to 'protect the Kurds/Rojava' (I've seen this Chomsky interview go around on twitter again: http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/13cf816e-8e40-41c8-bb76-d453a3261d8b) seems to misunderstand why the US is in Rojava at all - i.e. it's war on terror and a geopolitical bulwark against (mainly) Iran, not to actually support the YPG. Their presence means that both Turkey and Assad will try to avoid direct military confrontation with US troops but not much more.
The announcement of 50% of troops being withdrawn from Afghanistan too I haven't seen as much about - but there were noises earlier this year about privatising the operation there - would be worth keeping an eye on: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/officials-worry-trump-may-back-erik-prince-plan-privatize-war-n901401
SDF/YPG apparently just
SDF/YPG apparently just handed over a town to the Syrian army to stave of an attack by Turkey. Not sure what this source is like.
Mike Harman wrote: SDF/YPG
BasNews is pro-Barzani/KDP news.
Last year in 2017, Russia (and maybe SAA) also held Arimah. Russia withdrew from the Manbij area and also stopped protecting Afrin's to green light Turkey's invasion of Afrin, as part of a deal for Erdogan to call anti-Assad opposition fighters out of southern Syria (Ghouta, Daraa). It was similar to the deal they reached when Putin allowed Turkey attacking ISIS in Jarabulus and al-Bab; in exchange for Erdogan calling fighters out of Aleppo (which caused the fall of the opposition in Aleppo).
MANBIJ FORCES REACHES AGREEMENT WITH RUSSIA OVER DEFENCE AGAINST TURKEY BACKED FSA, March 2nd, 2017, Plymouth University’s Dartmouth Centre for Seapower and Strategy (DCSS)
American, Russian troops in Manbij: Preventing an all-out Turkish-Kurdish face-off?, March 5, 2017, T-Intelligence
Syrian government forces 'enter' Kurdish-controlled Manbij region, December 12, 2018, Al Jazeera (Qatari-based)
If this story is true it would be the SAA/Russia/Iran alliance returning to positions they held in 2017. In 2017, they positioned there to stop Turkey's threats on Manbij and Afrin. At the same time, the U.S. also deployed flagged units to Manbij city proper and the north side of Manbij along the Sajur river to also deter Turkey's threats.
Then in January 2018, Russia (and the SAA) withdrew from the Manbij area, and Russia withdrew from Afrin. This allowed Turkey's successful invasion and occupation of Afrin to occur over a two month period. At the same time, the U.S. maintained its positions in Manbij and dissuaded Turkey form attacking there.
Yeah, I was going to say that
Yeah, I was going to say that that story feels like a re-run of March 2017 (except I had to look the date up). While you're here, would be genuinely interested to know your take on the current situation in general? Do you think there's any prospect of a "good" outcome at this stage, or is it just a choice between one defeat or another?
R Totale wrote: Yeah, I was
I had hoped that the war was ending and focus could be on reconstruction. Everything is in chaos now. Anything could happen now. The U.S. leaving in this way is a manner that most weakens the YPG's bargaining position. Also, with the U.S. pulling out, at first glance it looks like Erdogan gets what he wants... but it puts him in a weaker position over all facing Assad/Russia/Iran without U.S./Coalition support.
From what we observed, the U.S. had a relatively lighter hand on TEV-DEM's internal politics and economics than we can expect from either Erdogan or Assad.
Some hope that France and a coalition of other countries could form a deterrent to Turkey. Seems like a slim hope.
Can the YPG cut a deal? Or is it Turkey's occupation and a return to guerilla war, but much worse than we currently seen in Afrin?
I would caution people against writing requiems yet. That won't stop some of you from doing so.
Official confirmation from
Official confirmation from YPG that they're inviting the Syrian army to hold positions: https://twitter.com/DefenseUnits/status/1078573294402588672
And confirmation from Syrian Army.
Longish analysis from an
Longish analysis from an anarchist in Rojava here: https://crimethinc.com/2018/12/28/the-threat-to-rojava-an-anarchist-in-syria-speaks-on-the-real-meaning-of-trumps-withdrawal
Obviously, very pro-PYD, which in turn means that, in this current situation, the author ends up verging on "soft Assadism" in some places, but I thought these bits were good:
"As anarchists, we have to talk very seriously about how to create other options for people in conflict zones. Is there any form of international horizontal decentralized coordination that could have solved the problems that the people in Rojava were facing such that they would not have been forced to depend on the US military? If we find no answer to this question when we look at the Syria of 2013-2018, is there something we could have done earlier? These are extremely pressing questions...
Finally, you can think about how we could put better options on the table next time an uprising like the one in Syria breaks out. How can we make sure that governments fall before their reign gives way to the reign of pure force, in which only insurgents backed by other states can gain control? How can we offer other visions of how people can live and meet their needs together, and mobilize the force it will take to implement and defend them on an international basis without need of any state?"
I guess the only other option that I could see to prevent a total destruction of any emancipatory prospect at the hands of either Erdogan or Assad would be "the old mole" rearing its head again in either Turkey or Syria (maybe spreading from Iran/Iraq), but I dunno what the odds of that are.
I've no agreement with the
I've no agreement with the aspirations of Kurdish nationalism, particularly as expressed in Rojava, but I'd like to thank the author of the piece linked by R. Totale for its information and humanity. I don't think that it overestimates the Turkish state's capacity for massacre and terror which these latest developments could well bring about.
Just a couple of points:
The US and its coalition allies have lost the war in Syria. The leading world power must confront another set-back in the Middle East which has weakened its position and this will have consequences on the wider imperialist chessboard as well as the detailed perspectives laid out by the author. Kurdish nationalism and Kurdish "assets" are part of this chessboard and are once again paying the price for it.
There is nothing "new" or "startling" about Trump's decision to withdraw from Syria; he talked about it in his election campaign as part of his "America First!" policy, touched on it frequently and six months ago gave a six-month time scale to pull out of Syria. The author says that the move "makes no sense" for "US global, military hegemony". But it makes perfect sense. The biggest concern for US imperialism at the moment is, I think, the movement of Erdogan's Turkey towards Russia - the author talks about the "multi-polar" world and I agree that centrifugal tendencies are a dominant development of imperialism making them unpredictable and dangerous and this is an example of it. It's not just "missile sales" between Russia and Turkey but the existence of a massive, well-organised and battle-hardened military on Nato's southern flank, i.e., the Turkish state, going towards Russia that is the danger to the US. It is absolutely vital for US imperialism in the longer term that Turkey is moved away from deeper alliances with Russia and is fully and decisively integrated into Nato. If that means sacrificing the Kurds you can just picture Trump shrugging his shoulders. Erdogan is playing the game with the March elections and beyond in mind by pitting one against the other with the one thing for sure being that the general imperialist carve-up is just being displaced. There is no peace.
On the perspectives, it can only be the class struggle, workers' assemblies, self-organisation intrinsically breaking ethnic and nationalist divisions. There have been significant episodes of class struggle recently in Iran, Jordan and Iraq and the potential of the working class in Turkey and elsewhere remains intact. The working class is the only possible force able to push back at the bourgeoisie and with a bit of luck eventually overthrow it. But all forms of nationalism have to go with that, not least because nationalism is part imperialist war.
But good luck "anarchist in Rojava". Keep your head down and keep analysing and discussing the situation.
Factcheck on the smear piece
Factcheck on the smear piece about Rojava by Roy Gutman on The Intercept:
Quote: In March-April 2011,
- here: http://dialectical-delinquents.com/articles/class-struggle-histories-2/on-rojava-and-the-kurdish-proto-state/
Do I understand correctly
Do I understand correctly that the anarchists refused to support Autonomous and, unlike Rojava, predominantly non-party Councils in regions such as Daraa and Idlib?
meerov21 wrote: Do I
Idlib is dominated by Al Qaeda/Jabhat al Nusra/Hayat Tahrir al-Sham
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1) How do you even talk about
1) How do you even talk about it, if you are not familiar with the publications of the Syrian anarchist Leila al-Shami, who constantly talks about the Councils in Arab Syria, created during the Saura (Uprising) against Assad? "The people of Idlib have been at the forefront of the struggle against Hay’at Tahrir Al Sham, or H.T.S. Since Idlib’s liberation from the regime — partially in 2012 and then fully in 2015 — many of its citizens worked to build a free society that reflected the values of the revolution. According to researchers, more than 150 local councils have been established to administer basic services in the province; many held the first free elections in decades. Long-repressed civil society witnessed a rebirth. Independent news media, like the popular Radio Fresh, were set up to challenge the regime’s monopoly on information. Women’s centers grew, empowering women to participate in politics and the economy".
2) This text is about the conflict Autonomous Councils and Nusra:
There are about 160 Autonomous Councils in the region of Idlib active and they are in confrontation with Nusra (Al-Qaeda; Hayat Tachrir al Sham). Arab councils are non-party and self-organized. They are multi-confessional, i.e. they are Sunnis, Ismailis, Christians. This is a huge step forward for Syria. But they are in contact with certain groups of anti-Assad opposition.
Currently Nusra (al-Qaeda) is the main enemy of Autonomous councils in the region. And this is so not only because Nusra wants destroy these Autonomous councils, as once did the Bolsheviks in 1918-1921. The reason is that the presence of the Nusra has made "politicaly toxic" entire region of Idlib. I fear that the whole region will be wiped off the face of the earth by joint efforts of the great powers.
3) "We’ve published this interview called “Libertarian communalism and self-government in Syria” made by an internationalist comrade who prefered remains anonymous, but encouraging to extend the debate about the Syrian revolution along the world. The main questions treats on cultural and political relations (and too the radical differences) between the Arab autonomous councils that have been formed since the revolution start on 2011, the Kurdish parties organizative forces and the connotation of try hegemonize the Middle East conflicts of imperialist countries, in a way to understand all advances and gains of this armed process for a better life for the most important subject in this scenario: the communities & people."
Please try to be polite when you're trying to talk to people who are more informed than you.
Its not 2011 anymore. Even
Its not 2011 anymore. Even Robin Yassin-Kassab, Leila al-Shami's co-author "Burning Country" and now supporter of Turkey's attacks on YPG in Afrin, gave up on Idlib years ago.
Robin Yassin-Kassab, Our Fates are Linked, Arab Daily News, February 12, 2017
Hope in the "autonomous councils" backed by arms of the National Front for Liberation while disparaging Rojava as "party councils" is the penultimate of mistaking form for substance.
Touting the last hold outs in Idlib against HTS as some sort of thing to support, and to be clear this is totally abstract internet rhetorical wanking support, is just dumb.
More than likely, the Syrian Arab Army assisted by Russia will eventually fight HTS for control of Idlib. Whether there is any armed group separate from HTS (or local government not dominated by the HTS civilian wing the National Salvation Government) remains to be seen, but they will not be a significant military or political factor to the outcome. Whether or not Turkey intends to withdraw from Idlib, assist the SAA offensive or to continue to defend HTS positions remains to be seen; but again any armed body or political council nominally independent of NTS/NSG won't be a significant factor in Erdogan's decision there. Turkey has largely not been interested in defending any such group against HTS. It has mostly facilitated the relocation of armed groups who are themselves little better than HTS... groups like Ahrar al Sham and Ahrar al-Sharqiya to bolster Turkey's occupation of Afrin to receive payment as both mercenaries and to engage in looting.
Comparing the local councils in Idlib that went along to get along with these fore-mentioned armed groups as somehow comparable to the free soviets of the Russian revolution is laughable. Just because a village has a local administrative council that is independent of the Ba'ath party in government in Damascus does not mean said council is a good thing.
From the very Syrian Direct you reference:
It is a terrible situation for the many internally displaced peoples who are now residing in Idlib and the locals of Idlib, but there is no longer any kind of significant social revolution going on there now. All access to the area is controlled by HTS and Turkey.
You can be a rhetorical FSA booster to the dead end, but its a bad look. The only thing that seems at all positive to have come from the civil war seems to be Rojava and the Syrian Democratic Council. For the amount of shade thrown on them in this forum, that folks some folks are still touting the virtues of the local councils in Idlib boggles my mind.
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1) The article of the Syrian
1) The article of the Syrian anarchist Leyla al-Shami refers to the autumn of the last year. In it she writes about more than 150 councils in Idlib. I fully admit that there are still elements of self-organization in some areas.
2) My question "Do I understand correctly that the anarchists refused to support Autonomous and, unlike Rojava, predominantly non-party Councils in regions such as Daraa and Idlib?" was largely about the past, which is clear from Daraa wich is now occupied by Assad's forces and many people there are repressed.
3) The Assessment that the councils in the Arab regions or in regions with mixed populations are "not party Councils" belongs to Leyla al-Sham. In addition, there are other researchers who write about it, such as Russian scientist (orientalist and political scientist) Kirill Semenov. I remember as Otto Rule wrote once like "centralized party organization is a form of bourgeois organization and its objectives are contrary to the objectives of the Councils". But Of course, some armed factions may influence them by threatening them like Nusra, but in any case, these Councils, as long as they exist (or have existed in the past), are likely to be independent in many internal matters: In any case, this opinion was expressed by both Leyla al-Shami and some experts. May be they wrong, but I have not met a single anarchist who would work in these Councils and could talk about how they operate.
4) "childish insults deleted - warning - be polite or face sanction." - This is a very good decision.
I hope Flint respects Leader of all Kurdish people, Abdullah Ocalan. Leader does not support the rough talk. He is in favour of dialogue. Remember teaching of the Leader.
Flint wrote: Touting the
There have been a few cases where the local population has been able to run HTS out of town including the one meerov linked above. You can 'support' basic community self-defence like this (which in some cases will be linked to the local councils) without pretending it's something that it isn't. Also the relationship between the councils and the FSA was not always friendly afaik?
There has been a massive adoption of war on terror rhetoric by a lot of people against everyone living in these areas due to the domination by Islamist militias (leading to support of both US/coalition strikes or them being retaken by the SAA). Recognising that there are some structures (however weakened) opposed to this which are still in those areas is one way to push back against this. Does it have any meaningful effect on what happens on the ground? No it does not, but the way that absolutely fucked people like Beeley and Bartlett have been able to represent Syria to US and European audiences is also a serious problem.
More background for people not familiar with this:
I pretty much agree with what
I pretty much agree with what Mike Harman wrote.
Also I think that the Syrian councils of deputies created during Saura were predominantly non-parti, and I think that this could be the most important interest. Yes, it seems that these Councils could not become an independent armed force opposing authoritarian groups, repeating the tragic experience of the Russian revolution.
As for Rojava, it seems that this is a normal party-state system. It is possible that for Syrian Kurdistan, this system is currently the most tolerant and secure. There you will not be killed for being a Shiite, Christian or atheist. There you can open your business, and the militants will not come to rob you. Your civil rights, including the right to property and freedom of conscience, are protected by the Rojava Constitution. Homosexuality have been decriminalized in Rojava. Women may hold political office.
It is no secret that the opposition Kurdish parties are subjected to repression as Nymphalis Antiopa says http://dialectical-delinquents.com/articles/class-struggle-histories-2/on-rojava-and-the-kurdish-proto-state/ But it is possible that this can be solved, since the United States, which is still protecting Rojava from Turkey insist on the implementation of political pluralism and create peace between the PKK, KDP and other Kurdish parties. Moreover, the PKK called for the unification of all Kurdish parties. In any case I do not rule out that if this region does not become the object of total Turkish or Iranian intervention, it will be able to build a model of some social-democratic state. For the modern Syrian Kurdistan, this is not a bad option when compared with ISIS, Assad, Iran or Erdogan's Turkey. Therefore, talking about humanitarian aid or human rights activities aimed at supporting Rojava make sense. Another thing is that this issue has nothing to do with the libertarian classless society.
My post #245 Jan 2018 comes
My post #245 Jan 2018 comes true in force Oct 2019 with bloody force on a major scale - See also latest KAF statement here: (https://libcom.org/forums/middle-east/solidarity-people-rojava-denouncing-turkish-state-united-states-allies-101020)
Meanwhile see here the unlikely capitalist political case for a greater Kurdish nationalism in the future and more realignments with the major imperialist powers in the region - the games people play with others lives - a bit sick!
What a tragic mess.
What a tragic mess. Imperialist gangs big and small were always going to behave in a gangsterish manner. The Western leftists who recruited idealistic young comrades to go and die in Syria for a fake revolution that looks like it will be easily snuffed out now that its US backer has pulled the pin are probably the most disgusting of all the players involved.
Whatever criticisms I have of
Whatever criticisms I have of Rojava and its backers, that last sentence above is a fairly daft bit of posturing.
Anyway, just wanted to say that this seems worthwhile:
Why the Turkish Invasion Matters: Addressing the Hard Questions about Imperialism and Solidarity. Don't think I fully agree with it and there's still a tendency to skip over/give unconvincing answers to the really hard questions, but it's good that they're at least attempting to address actual revolutionary criticisms as well as the usual anti-imperialist nonsense.
R Totale wrote: Whatever
It's gross that so many anarchists were so eager to recruit people to go and fight for what easily became an auxiliary US force. Talk about taking a running jump over the class lines.
I'm not asking whether or not
I'm not asking whether or not you think they're "gross", I'm asking whether or not you can justify the ridiculous claim that they're somehow more gross than Assad, Erdogan, ISIS, the "anti-imperialist" scumbags who've spent the last few years rolling out the red carpet for any jew-hating freak willing to deny the right massacres, and so on.
Does anyone have detailed
Does anyone have detailed info on the amount of foreign Anarchist/AntiFascist volunteers fighting in Rojava like Anna Campbell who died after a Turkish attack last year.There was a Documentary on her on BBC2 in the Summer.
On Channel 4 News they gave a brief but fair account of Anarchist politics and interviewed comrades from Italy and Germany fighting ISIS.
Might not be to everyone's
Might not be to everyone's tastes, but there's a lot of good info in this post (and I think I broadly more or less agree with it): https://mkaradjis.wordpress.com/2019/10/23/the-turkish-invasion-latest-step-in-the-russian-led-destruction-of-the-syrian-revolution/ I would be particularly keen to know more about the anti-Assad general strike in Manbij.
Thanks to R Totale for that
Thanks to R Totale for that linked text which is very informative and worth others reading.
Yeah, R Totale, that twitter
Yeah, R Totale, that twitter link is very informative and I had never heard anywhere else of the general strike that Manbij residents carried against the Islamic State when the city was occupied by the IS in 2014.
Me either, although I suppose
Me either, although I suppose IS-occupied territory probably wasn't the most welcoming place for independent journalists. More broadly I suppose it does illustrate a recurring problem for libertarian communists, which is that activity that's spontaneous, self-organised, etc will usually never be as well-publicised as things that're connected to political parties or similar organisations with good PR machines.
Not really news but this
Not really news but this short text summarises the sorry history of Kurdish political and military alignments with, and suffering from, the various global and regional imperialist powers over decades: